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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @antipodean So players don't test positive in Oz anymore? Or are they allowed to play when they're positive?

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    @stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @antipodean So players don't test positive in Oz anymore? Or are they allowed to play when they're positive?

    I think it's also that the case numbers are lower in Aus plus Aus are allowing crowds to attend games. 24k cases a day in NZ compared with 7k cases a day in Melbourne.

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @antipodean So players don't test positive in Oz anymore? Or are they allowed to play when they're positive?

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      @stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

      @antipodean So players don't test positive in Oz anymore? Or are they allowed to play when they're positive?

      If you're exposed to a teammate as a function of training then there's no requirement to self-isolate and quarantine. You just need a negative test. If the players mask up on a bus to games, then the above rules would still apply. It would only be an issue if your roommate tested positive, so you'd miss a game (week quarantine) and could re-join the squad on a negative test six days after exposure.

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        In NZ, from tonight 11.59pm, only household contacts need to isolate for 7 days. Household Contacts will need to test on Day 3 and Day 7.

        I assume this applies to players as well, with room mates considered household contacts?

        I could only find NZR guideline amendments for community rugby, so not sure about Super Rugby protocols.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          @stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

          @antipodean So players don't test positive in Oz anymore? Or are they allowed to play when they're positive?

          I think it's also that the case numbers are lower in Aus plus Aus are allowing crowds to attend games. 24k cases a day in NZ compared with 7k cases a day in Melbourne.

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          @kiwimurph said in Super Rugby 2022:

          @stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

          @antipodean So players don't test positive in Oz anymore? Or are they allowed to play when they're positive?

          I think it's also that the case numbers are lower in Aus plus Aus are allowing crowds to attend games. 24k cases a day in NZ compared with 7k cases a day in Melbourne.

          Yep it's all about passing the peak of numbers etc, NZ hasn't really peaked yet, and seems maybe peak is going to be a little less than Aussies, so hopefully close to it now?
          The old story, we all waiting to get past peak so we can hopefully relax rules like Aussie has.

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            3 and 1/2 Rds into SR and the standard has been shit.
            Handling errors,Aimless kicking. soft defence I hope it picks up very dissapointing it’s getting worse each season.

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            • ChrisC Chris

              3 and 1/2 Rds into SR and the standard has been shit.
              Handling errors,Aimless kicking. soft defence I hope it picks up very dissapointing it’s getting worse each season.

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              @chris said in Super Rugby 2022:

              3 and 1/2 Rds into SR and the standard has been shit.
              Handling errors,Aimless kicking. soft defence I hope it picks up very dissapointing it’s getting worse each season.

              Its a cattle issue. Finally, we’ve got to the point where we either don’t have the players available or the coaches won’t give opportunities to the youngsters. There is also the problem of certain positions being seriously deep at some franchises and paper thin at others.

              One example is first five - Dmac is overseas, Barrett is continually injured, and Mo’unga is getting his rest. The young guys are either not ready or not being given chances - we’ve yet to see Reihana at the Chiefs despite us carrying him for 3 (?) years.

              If you compare the quality of the players available now to 10 years ago, it feels like night and day.

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              • gt12G gt12

                @chris said in Super Rugby 2022:

                3 and 1/2 Rds into SR and the standard has been shit.
                Handling errors,Aimless kicking. soft defence I hope it picks up very dissapointing it’s getting worse each season.

                Its a cattle issue. Finally, we’ve got to the point where we either don’t have the players available or the coaches won’t give opportunities to the youngsters. There is also the problem of certain positions being seriously deep at some franchises and paper thin at others.

                One example is first five - Dmac is overseas, Barrett is continually injured, and Mo’unga is getting his rest. The young guys are either not ready or not being given chances - we’ve yet to see Reihana at the Chiefs despite us carrying him for 3 (?) years.

                If you compare the quality of the players available now to 10 years ago, it feels like night and day.

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                @gt12

                Yeah, a number of factors including ABs taking sabbaticals. Last year's NPC was disrupted by covid, as have this year's SRP prep and game day squads. The wider training groups have been thinned by MP and the US MLR.

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                • gt12G gt12

                  @chris said in Super Rugby 2022:

                  3 and 1/2 Rds into SR and the standard has been shit.
                  Handling errors,Aimless kicking. soft defence I hope it picks up very dissapointing it’s getting worse each season.

                  Its a cattle issue. Finally, we’ve got to the point where we either don’t have the players available or the coaches won’t give opportunities to the youngsters. There is also the problem of certain positions being seriously deep at some franchises and paper thin at others.

                  One example is first five - Dmac is overseas, Barrett is continually injured, and Mo’unga is getting his rest. The young guys are either not ready or not being given chances - we’ve yet to see Reihana at the Chiefs despite us carrying him for 3 (?) years.

                  If you compare the quality of the players available now to 10 years ago, it feels like night and day.

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                  @gt12 At 10 and some other positions, Blues are seeing the benefit of retaining and developing young players over a number of years. This was something they were poor at in the past.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    @gt12

                    Yeah, a number of factors including ABs taking sabbaticals. Last year's NPC was disrupted by covid, as have this year's SRP prep and game day squads. The wider training groups have been thinned by MP and the US MLR.

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                    @tim said in Super Rugby 2022:

                    @gt12

                    Yeah, a number of factors including ABs taking sabbaticals. Last year's NPC was disrupted by covid, as have this year's SRP prep and game day squads. The wider training groups have been thinned by MP and the US MLR.

                    That NPC factor is a good one - heaps of young guys didn’t get opportunities (e.g., Evans at the Blues) so as a result the coaches are relying on the experienced heads.

                    I think some of the coaching squad selections have been shown up too - Brown selecting Banks in the squad is one thing (I disagree with, but I recognize why he did it), but needing to play him every week is a problem. They should be developing a youngster there, even if Koroi is not quite a 10.

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      @tim said in Super Rugby 2022:

                      @gt12

                      Yeah, a number of factors including ABs taking sabbaticals. Last year's NPC was disrupted by covid, as have this year's SRP prep and game day squads. The wider training groups have been thinned by MP and the US MLR.

                      That NPC factor is a good one - heaps of young guys didn’t get opportunities (e.g., Evans at the Blues) so as a result the coaches are relying on the experienced heads.

                      I think some of the coaching squad selections have been shown up too - Brown selecting Banks in the squad is one thing (I disagree with, but I recognize why he did it), but needing to play him every week is a problem. They should be developing a youngster there, even if Koroi is not quite a 10.

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                      @gt12 I wonder if a few players were less keen to move to Dunedin with possible inability to travel to see family/partners/friends due to covid restrictions?

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @gt12 I wonder if a few players were less keen to move to Dunedin with possible inability to travel to see family/partners/friends due to covid restrictions?

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                        @tim said in Super Rugby 2022:

                        @gt12 I wonder if a few players were less keen to move to Dunedin with possible inability to travel to see family/partners/friends due to covid restrictions?

                        You have to wonder. I also think the uncertainty about having a really good coach there, who is committed to the franchise, may make a difference.

                        Personally (and this is just a personal opinion), I’d like the AB coaches to stop selecting players who aren’t starting at their franchises or at least make that the deciding factor in coin toss decisions. Bower generally comes off the bench and rarely has to face the best THs at scrum time. Similarly, Ofa is going backwards not playing enough.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @gt12 I wonder if a few players were less keen to move to Dunedin with possible inability to travel to see family/partners/friends due to covid restrictions?

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                          @tim yeah I think the covid disruptions have exaggerated the slow burn issue of all the players we lose every year, hopefully as that looks like Covid is nearing an end, we need to really focus on development, get players back up to speed, especially when you consider the ABs that are still here in the twilight of thier careers, when normally they'd be cashing in up in Europe, we need to use them for development rather than blocking the next rung coming throuhg.

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                            The Hurricanes want their next Super Rugby Pacific game against the Chiefs to be pushed back to Sunday to give them more time to prepare after Covid-19 swept through the squad last week.

                            The Hurricanes are scheduled to return to action against the Chiefs at Sky Stadium in Wellington on Saturday night after their previous game against Moana Pasifika was postponed.

                            Assistant coach Chris Gibbes said the Hurricanes were in discussions with New Zealand Rugby about swapping timeslots with the Crusaders-Blues game, which is scheduled to be played on Sunday afternoon.

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300540280/hurricanes-request-fixture-change-to-give-squad-more-time-to-prepare-after-covid

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                              The Hurricanes want their next Super Rugby Pacific game against the Chiefs to be pushed back to Sunday to give them more time to prepare after Covid-19 swept through the squad last week.

                              The Hurricanes are scheduled to return to action against the Chiefs at Sky Stadium in Wellington on Saturday night after their previous game against Moana Pasifika was postponed.

                              Assistant coach Chris Gibbes said the Hurricanes were in discussions with New Zealand Rugby about swapping timeslots with the Crusaders-Blues game, which is scheduled to be played on Sunday afternoon.

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300540280/hurricanes-request-fixture-change-to-give-squad-more-time-to-prepare-after-covid

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                              @bovidae Fair request.

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                                https://twitter.com/SuperRugbyNZ/status/1503167834205356034

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                                  https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/03/14/fourth-moana-pasifika-game-at-risk-as-covid-hits-highlanders/

                                  Click bait heading

                                  Super Rugby continues to be marred by Covid-19 outbreaks with 1News able to reveal cases have been confirmed in the Highlanders squad.

                                  Highlanders high performance manager Greg O'Brien confirmed on Monday the southern franchise has cases in the team but would not disclose the exact figure.

                                  The Highlanders are scheduled to host Moana Pasifika this Friday in Dunedin. O'Brien told 1News as of Monday they are "confident" they will be able to field a side for the match.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    https://twitter.com/SuperRugbyNZ/status/1503167834205356034

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                                    @stargazer fair play for switching the schedules. Wouldn't be fair giving the Hurricanes only two days to prepare.

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                                      I haven't watched the non-Blues games that closely but it seems like there is more counter rucking turnovers this year? Forwards staying on their feet and actually pushing past the ball

                                      Defence putting more numbers in? Or attacking sides not protecting the ball as well?

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                                        this kind of thing has to be a good sign, a close loss and showing some real gusto

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                                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                          this kind of thing has to be a good sign, a close loss and showing some real gusto

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                                          @kiwiwomble They have improved very quickly.

                                          Now they need to move on from Baden Kerr. Watching him is actually sad at this point.

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