Ireland v Scotland
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Why is this a surprise?
Russell has been 5/10 at best
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Why is this a surprise?
Russell has been 5/10 at best
@mikethesnow russel at 5/10 is better than most after 10s
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Why is this a surprise?
Russell has been 5/10 at best
@mikethesnow said in Ireland v Scotland:
Why is this a surprise?
Russell has been 5/10 at best
Kinghorn is the surprise. Hastings a surer bet imo
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@mikethesnow russel at 5/10 is better than most after 10s
@yeahtheboys said in Ireland v Scotland:
@mikethesnow russel at 5/10 is better than most after 10s
Obviously not, as rank outsider Kinghorn is preferred
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14-5 HT. Scotland starting well, lots of possession. Ireland looking a bit more likely to score when they have the ball.
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Hogg is SO ball greedy. 3 on 1 and goes himself. Try wouldn’t have counted anyway.
Would have counted after all. So poor.
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Brilliant refereeing from Barnes
@the-irishman said in Ireland v Scotland:
Brilliant refereeing from Barnes
He’s having a good game. Standing up to his Aussie tmo
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Bonus point win for Ireland in what was not a great performance again, but it seems not to matter, 26-5. Over to France now to decide the championship. Come on England!!
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Bonus point win for Ireland in what was not a great performance again, but it seems not to matter, 26-5. Over to France now to decide the championship. Come on England!!
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https://twitter.com/RaeburnShield/status/1505254660021620738?t=6UJOPG0FuXu_LWk49p8FpQ&s=19
Ireland actually manage to defend the Raeburn Shield in this match which nobody has managed in the last 8 matches!
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@the-irishman said in Ireland v Scotland:
Brilliant refereeing from Barnes
He’s having a good game. Standing up to his Aussie tmo
@billy-tell said in Ireland v Scotland:
@the-irishman said in Ireland v Scotland:
Brilliant refereeing from Barnes
He’s having a good game. Standing up to his Aussie tmo
Here is Nigel Owens' comments about the reliance on/use of TMOs
https://www.ruck.co.uk/please-no-rfu-back-controversial-new-red-card-law/3/
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Worst ireland performance in a long time but still managed to just about get the bonus point. Not a great 6 nations for the Scots.
@profitius said in Ireland v Scotland:
Worst ireland performance in a long time but still managed to just about get the bonus point. Not a great 6 nations for the Scots•
But. But. It’s their year.
Again.
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Worst ireland performance in a long time but still managed to just about get the bonus point. Not a great 6 nations for the Scots.
@profitius said in Ireland v Scotland:
Worst ireland performance in a long time but still managed to just about get the bonus point. Not a great 6 nations for the Scots.
Don’t come here with your bullshit talk @profitius the mighty Scots lit up the tournament by beating England which basically made them the envy of the whole Six nations.
Anything else was a bonus, they’ll still be singing on the streets of Edinburgh after that performance.
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Ireland aren't all that from my viewing of their last few games. Scots were about as headless as you get overnight. They struggled to put away a 14-man England, and were rubbish against Italy despite the overwhelming advantage they had in numbers.
France took them apart, and Wales were poo in that game.
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@nta said in Ireland v Scotland:
Ireland aren't all that from my viewing of their last few games. Scots were about as headless as you get overnight. They struggled to put away a 14-man England, and were rubbish against Italy despite the overwhelming advantage they had in numbers.
France took them apart, and Wales were poo in that game.
France took them apart? Wow! Ireland pushed France right to the end, in Paris btw, and could have won that game with better game management. No team has been that close to beating France on their home soil recently so you are way off the mark with that throwaway comment. As for struggling to beat 14 man England? Look at how Wales struggled to beat 14 man Ireland in Cardiff last year. England were bouyed by the frantic home crowd and manned up for the Irish game. Most teams would struggle to beat a 14 man England in Twickenham, they don't just roll over and die ffs.
Ireland haven't played their best this tournament but still outscored everyone in tries in every game, inc France. 24 tries compared to 17 for France and the rest not even close. That's not playing well. Imagine what they can do when they do play well....
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@nta said in Ireland v Scotland:
Ireland aren't all that from my viewing of their last few games. Scots were about as headless as you get overnight. They struggled to put away a 14-man England, and were rubbish against Italy despite the overwhelming advantage they had in numbers.
France took them apart, and Wales were poo in that game.
France took them apart? Wow! Ireland pushed France right to the end, in Paris btw, and could have won that game with better game management. No team has been that close to beating France on their home soil recently so you are way off the mark with that throwaway comment. As for struggling to beat 14 man England? Look at how Wales struggled to beat 14 man Ireland in Cardiff last year. England were bouyed by the frantic home crowd and manned up for the Irish game. Most teams would struggle to beat a 14 man England in Twickenham, they don't just roll over and die ffs.
Ireland haven't played their best this tournament but still outscored everyone in tries in every game, inc France. 24 tries compared to 17 for France and the rest not even close. That's not playing well. Imagine what they can do when they do play well....
@the-irishman said in Ireland v Scotland:
@nta said in Ireland v Scotland:
Ireland aren't all that from my viewing of their last few games. Scots were about as headless as you get overnight. They struggled to put away a 14-man England, and were rubbish against Italy despite the overwhelming advantage they had in numbers.
France took them apart, and Wales were poo in that game.
Ireland pushed France right to the end, in Paris btw
The only reason you were that close: France knew they could take the easy points in the first half from your poor scrum and ruck work, so they did. They dropped a fair bit of ball in that first quarter, too. The 19-7 score at halftime from a try and 2 ruck + 2 scrum penalties in kickable range could easily have been 30-7, if they opted to go to the line. Shortly after halftime it's 22-7 as their kicker drains one from 45m on the angle. Easy money.
Ireland showed 5 minutes of excellence from minutes 45-50, scoring twice through individual efforts to stay in touch (JGP's snipe, and the maul that ?Van Der Flier? scored from that had disintegrated - credit to him for situational awareness). France pulled away yet again and held it, scoring off Ireland's poor ruck work again. The game Ireland wanted to play - retain ball, piggyback downfield off penalties, score points - was almost completely stunted by France pressuring the right breakdowns and Ireland not securing them.
No doubt if Ireland won by 6 points they'd be talking themslves right up. Fact is they lost on the scoreboard and lost around the park. A couple of streaky tries in Paris, and a very average walloping a 13- or 12-man Italy won't change that. Let's be honest: you should have cruised past 70 points in that game.
@the-irishman said in Ireland v Scotland:
Ireland haven't played their best this tournament but still outscored everyone in tries in every game, inc France.
And when they change the competition rules to make tries the only thing that matters, we can retrospectively award Ireland the 6N this year, I guess?
You can be overly optimistic about the form of your team - we've all been there - but I'm looking at the basics on show against a fairly young France, and Ireland did not perform well at all.
Ireland were far better against NZ in November, and this begs the question: have Ireland once again peaked between RWC?
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@the-irishman said in Ireland v Scotland:
@nta said in Ireland v Scotland:
Ireland aren't all that from my viewing of their last few games. Scots were about as headless as you get overnight. They struggled to put away a 14-man England, and were rubbish against Italy despite the overwhelming advantage they had in numbers.
France took them apart, and Wales were poo in that game.
Ireland pushed France right to the end, in Paris btw
The only reason you were that close: France knew they could take the easy points in the first half from your poor scrum and ruck work, so they did. They dropped a fair bit of ball in that first quarter, too. The 19-7 score at halftime from a try and 2 ruck + 2 scrum penalties in kickable range could easily have been 30-7, if they opted to go to the line. Shortly after halftime it's 22-7 as their kicker drains one from 45m on the angle. Easy money.
Ireland showed 5 minutes of excellence from minutes 45-50, scoring twice through individual efforts to stay in touch (JGP's snipe, and the maul that ?Van Der Flier? scored from that had disintegrated - credit to him for situational awareness). France pulled away yet again and held it, scoring off Ireland's poor ruck work again. The game Ireland wanted to play - retain ball, piggyback downfield off penalties, score points - was almost completely stunted by France pressuring the right breakdowns and Ireland not securing them.
No doubt if Ireland won by 6 points they'd be talking themslves right up. Fact is they lost on the scoreboard and lost around the park. A couple of streaky tries in Paris, and a very average walloping a 13- or 12-man Italy won't change that. Let's be honest: you should have cruised past 70 points in that game.
@the-irishman said in Ireland v Scotland:
Ireland haven't played their best this tournament but still outscored everyone in tries in every game, inc France.
And when they change the competition rules to make tries the only thing that matters, we can retrospectively award Ireland the 6N this year, I guess?
You can be overly optimistic about the form of your team - we've all been there - but I'm looking at the basics on show against a fairly young France, and Ireland did not perform well at all.
Ireland were far better against NZ in November, and this begs the question: have Ireland once again peaked between RWC?
@nta said in Ireland v Scotland:
@the-irishman said in Ireland v Scotland:
@nta said in Ireland v Scotland:
Ireland aren't all that from my viewing of their last few games. Scots were about as headless as you get overnight. They struggled to put away a 14-man England, and were rubbish against Italy despite the overwhelming advantage they had in numbers.
France took them apart, and Wales were poo in that game.
Ireland pushed France right to the end, in Paris btw
The only reason you were that close: France knew they could take the easy points in the first half from your poor scrum and ruck work, so they did. They dropped a fair bit of ball in that first quarter, too. The 19-7 score at halftime from a try and 2 ruck + 2 scrum penalties in kickable range could easily have been 30-7, if they opted to go to the line. Shortly after halftime it's 22-7 as their kicker drains one from 45m on the angle. Easy money.
Ireland showed 5 minutes of excellence from minutes 45-50, scoring twice through individual efforts to stay in touch (JGP's snipe, and the maul that ?Van Der Flier? scored from that had disintegrated - credit to him for situational awareness). France pulled away yet again and held it, scoring off Ireland's poor ruck work again. The game Ireland wanted to play - retain ball, piggyback downfield off penalties, score points - was almost completely stunted by France pressuring the right breakdowns and Ireland not securing them.
No doubt if Ireland won by 6 points they'd be talking themslves right up. Fact is they lost on the scoreboard and lost around the park. A couple of streaky tries in Paris, and a very average walloping a 13- or 12-man Italy won't change that. Let's be honest: you should have cruised past 70 points in that game.
@the-irishman said in Ireland v Scotland:
Ireland haven't played their best this tournament but still outscored everyone in tries in every game, inc France.
And when they change the competition rules to make tries the only thing that matters, we can retrospectively award Ireland the 6N this year, I guess?
You can be overly optimistic about the form of your team - we've all been there - but I'm looking at the basics on show against a fairly young France, and Ireland did not perform well at all.
Ireland were far better against NZ in November, and this begs the question: have Ireland once again peaked between RWC?
Ireland have not played well in this tournament true but the France match was close. The French were out on their feet in the last 20 and it was only a few Irish mistakes that kept the pressure off them.
Have ireland peaked? Well it was only the last game against England in the 2021 6 nations that ireland decided to change the style of play after years of Schmidtball. About a year ago this weekend. So there is plenty of room for improvement.
I don't see ireland having a good world cup due to the draw, match scheduling and weak squad when a few players get injured. After the world cup will be a different story. I'm expecting a clean sweep of many older players and the U20s just won a grand slam and only lost twice since 2018 so those players are ready to go. A few might be added next season but I'd say if they're not on the NZ tour it'll be after the world cup. Farrell likes to pick the same players as much as possible.
So in short, the first choice team is good but a few injuries and the level drops off.
