All Blacks vs Wales
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<p>The Lions tour is next year, I don't want to throw a rookie prop into that if Moody goes down</p>
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<p>any of those 3 props you mention will have to improve heaps if they want a shot at that.</p>
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<p>I'd be looking at them the year after</p>
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<p>I remember Romano bumping off one of the Irish props like he was nothing but that was some time ago and can't recall anything like that since.</p>
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<p>I think "loose" and "tight" are better terms than "athletic" and "power". It's a shame Boric had his issues cos he was another who could do either role pretty decently.</p>
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<p>Keith Robinson was a real "tight" lock in that he hit every single ruck possible but was hardly a "power" lock if that makes sense, certainly not like Brad Thorn was.</p> -
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<p>My conclusion from watching highlights of the England-Wales came is that Wales don't have a clue how to defend pace. What is the fastest backline the All Blacks could put out from the squad that has been selected?</p>
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<p>Fastest backline would have to be this:</p>
<p>9. Aaron Smith 10. Beauden Barrett 11. Julian Savea 12. Malakai Fekitoa 13. Charlie Ngatai 14. Waisaki Nahalo 15. Damian McKenzie</p> -
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<p>Fastest backline would have to be this:</p>
<p>9. Aaron Smith 10. Beauden Barrett 11. Julian Savea 12. Malakai Fekitoa 13. Charlie Ngatai 14. Waisaki Nahalo 15. Damian McKenzie</p>
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<p>Tamanivula would be quicker than Ngatai surely, he's Fijian.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="583860" data-time="1464560881"><p>I remember Romano bumping off one of the Irish props like he was nothing but that was some time ago and can't recall anything like that since.<br><br>
I think "loose" and "tight" are better terms than "athletic" and "power". It's a shame Boric had his issues cos he was another who could do either role pretty decently.<br><br>
Keith Robinson was a real "tight" lock in that he hit every single ruck possible but was hardly a "power" lock if that makes sense, certainly not like Brad Thorn was.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Canes4life" data-cid="583862" data-time="1464560904"><p>Fastest backline would have to be this:<br>
9. Aaron Smith 10. Beauden Barrett 11. Julian Savea 12. Malakai Fekitoa 13. Charlie Ngatai 14. Waisaki Nahalo 15. Damian McKenzie</p></blockquote>
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<p>Edit fastest backline: 9. Aaron Smith 10. Beauden Barrett 11. Julian Savea 12. Charlie Ngatai 13. Ben Smith 14. Waisaki Nahalo 15. Damian McKenzie</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="583865" data-time="1464561054">
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<p>Tamanivula would be quicker than Ngatai surely, he's Fijian.</p>
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<p>He's the slow Fijian, that's why he plays centre and not on the wing.</p> -
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<p>He's the slow Fijian, that's why he plays centre and not on the wing.</p>
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<p>Slow Fijian ? that's like a blockbusting tackle breaking midfielder who is white......</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Canes4life" data-cid="583877" data-time="1464561355"><p>Edit fastest backline: 9. Aaron Smith 10. Beauden Barrett 11. Julian Savea 12. Charlie Ngatai 13. Ben Smith 14. Waisaki Nahalo 15. Damian McKenzie</p></blockquote>
Is Savea still faster than Dagg?<br><br>
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<p>Julians still toey for a big guy. When he gets going he is nearly impossible to catch.</p>
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<p>When he bursts into the front door of a KFC he is almost impossible to stop.</p>
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<p>When he bursts into the front door of a KFC he is almost impossible to stop.</p>
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<p>I'm thankful hes in the All Blacks. K Fry would have had a field day if he didn't make the squad. </p> -
<p>was it Gatland that was coach of Wasps when Trevor Leota was there, and he said that Trevor loved him some KFC and would often turn up form a holiday back home about 20kg heavier than his playing weight due to over-indulging in the finger-licking-goodness</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="583855" data-time="1464560326">
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<p>I'm expecting the 23 for the First Test to be something like this:</p>
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<p>1. Joe Moody</p>
<p>2. Dane Coles</p>
<p>3. Owen Franks</p>
<p>4. Brodie Rettalick</p>
<p>5. Luke Romano</p>
<p>6. Jerome Kaino</p>
<p>7. Sam Cane</p>
<p>8. Keiran Read Â
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<p>9. Aaron Smith</p>
<p>10. Aaron Cruden</p>
<p>11. Julian Savea</p>
<p>12. Ryan Crotty</p>
<p>13. Malakai Fekitoa</p>
<p>14. Waisaki Nahalo</p>
<p>15. Ben Smith</p>
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<p>Reserves:</p>
<p>16. Codie Taylor</p>
<p>17. Wyatt Crockett</p>
<p>18. Charlie Faumauina</p>
<p>19. Patrick Tuipolotu</p>
<p>20. Ardie Savea</p>
<p>21. TJ Perenara</p>
<p>22. Beauden Barrett</p>
<p>23. Seta Tamanivalu</p>
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<p>Israel Dagg and Eliott Dixon might get in somewhere as well.</p>
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<p>Based on the selected squad and injuries, I think you have pretty much nailed it Sparky.</p>
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<p>I can't see them putting both Dag and Barrett on the bench and I think that Ardie get's a run before Dixon.</p>
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<p>Tamanivalu is a bit of a risk as the midfield cover but given Ngatai's egg is still a bit scrambled, not many other options.</p>
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<p>And I agree with Bovidae in that I think that the selectors need to look past Crocket for the back up to Moody at Loose Head. And it needs to be done now so that the young up and commers like Goodes, Hames, etc get a good run of tests through the June and November tour so that they will have 5 or 6 (or more) test matches under their belts before the Lions.</p> -
<p>I'm most excited about our loose trio and locking combinations we can go to with A Savea and Tuipolotu on the bench.</p>
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<p>5. Tuipolotu 6. Cane 7. Savea 8. Read could wreck some havoc in the final 20!</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="583900" data-time="1464563357"><p>Any chance that we may see McKenzie on a wing?</p></blockquote>
I haven't seen them but apparently Hansen was quoted a while ago saying he doesn't see McKenzie as a wing. 15/10 only. Seems odd but fair enough. -
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<p>I haven't seen them but apparently Hansen was quoted a while ago saying he doesn't see McKenzie as a wing. 15/10 only. Seems odd but fair enough.</p>
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<p>Fair enough too. I hadn't heard that.</p>
