Americas Cup
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@tim so strange that all those countries think the america's cup is big enough to bid to host...but none have teams of their own
from memory valencia was actually pretty good so hopefully they can recreate in Barcelona
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@kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:
@tim so strange that all those countries think the america's cup is big enough to bid to host...but none have teams of their own
from memory valencia was actually pretty good so hopefully they can recreate in Barcelona
Barcelona? Not a surprise I guess, seeing as one of TNZs sponsors is Estrella Damm. And they used to be sponsored by camper. Not sure now
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@kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:
@tim so strange that all those countries think the america's cup is big enough to bid to host...but none have teams of their own
from memory valencia was actually pretty good so hopefully they can recreate in Barcelona
Barcelona? Not a surprise I guess, seeing as one of TNZs sponsors is Estrella Damm. And they used to be sponsored by camper. Not sure now
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@canefan yeah, not surprising to hold a sailing regatta...just shows much of a bigger step putting a team together is
@kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:
@canefan yeah, not surprising to hold a sailing regatta...just shows much of a bigger step putting a team together is
When were they last in the AC? Have they ever been in it? Last time Valencia was host it was Bertarelli's team who were the defenders
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@kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:
@canefan yeah, not surprising to hold a sailing regatta...just shows much of a bigger step putting a team together is
When were they last in the AC? Have they ever been in it? Last time Valencia was host it was Bertarelli's team who were the defenders
@canefan yeah...thats what im saying, i cant remember spain ever having a team but they obviously still think enough of it to try and host it. you imagine that putting a team together is a lot more effort than hosting the event
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If Auckland couldn't secure the funding necessary for the team to mount a successful defence, then out of the other options, Spain is a no-brainer.
We've had ridiculous mismatches in boat design, court cases, teams from landlocked nations...
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i'll definitely still be backing the team too
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I'm sort of torn. Dalton has a reputation as being fantastic to his sponsors but has certainly given the middle finger to govt - local and central.
Auckland didn't get the anticipated benefits of hosting because of Covid and always needed a second regatta to make the thing work, but it did provide infrastructure that will be round for decades and accelerated the redevelopment of Wynyard Quarter.
Maybe we should have stumped up more - Anything that brings visitors back to Auckland has to be a good thing, but is the impact of what is really a minority sport overstated
Should finally expose to everyone the myth that this team has a national identity - no more so anyway than something like F1. We are likely to be the Italians - support Ferrari with nationalistic fervor but all the other supporters are about the manufactures / drivers.
It certainly does sound like the Cup is getting more expensive. I thought the new class was supposed to avoid that. Would we rather host here and lose or in Spain and win? Dunno. We certainly have sold some of our competitive advantage. Just imagine if TNZ has sold its soul for pieces of gold and still deliver a debacle like the 2003 defence....
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@bovidae really? have you got a link? thats would be good news, wondering if we might see Artimus again too as i think they had hinted it would need to be in europe
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I'm sort of torn. Dalton has a reputation as being fantastic to his sponsors but has certainly given the middle finger to govt - local and central.
Auckland didn't get the anticipated benefits of hosting because of Covid and always needed a second regatta to make the thing work, but it did provide infrastructure that will be round for decades and accelerated the redevelopment of Wynyard Quarter.
Maybe we should have stumped up more - Anything that brings visitors back to Auckland has to be a good thing, but is the impact of what is really a minority sport overstated
Should finally expose to everyone the myth that this team has a national identity - no more so anyway than something like F1. We are likely to be the Italians - support Ferrari with nationalistic fervor but all the other supporters are about the manufactures / drivers.
It certainly does sound like the Cup is getting more expensive. I thought the new class was supposed to avoid that. Would we rather host here and lose or in Spain and win? Dunno. We certainly have sold some of our competitive advantage. Just imagine if TNZ has sold its soul for pieces of gold and still deliver a debacle like the 2003 defence....
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@dogmeat i have no reason for this but i kind of hoped it would be one overseas to pay for one at home kind of deal, so if we can defend it then the next one might be in auckland again
@kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:
@dogmeat i have no reason for this but i kind of hoped it would be one overseas to pay for one at home kind of deal, so if we can defend it then the next one might be in auckland again
Agree. The other big aspect is getting other players on board.
I understand the reluctance of teams to move to the other side of the world and from sponsors who would want prime time exposure.
Once in the fold then maybe we could bring them down here again. (defence permitting) -
@kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:
@dogmeat i have no reason for this but i kind of hoped it would be one overseas to pay for one at home kind of deal, so if we can defend it then the next one might be in auckland again
Agree. The other big aspect is getting other players on board.
I understand the reluctance of teams to move to the other side of the world and from sponsors who would want prime time exposure.
Once in the fold then maybe we could bring them down here again. (defence permitting)@crucial yeah, really need to make this a big even and build some hype for the next...and the next
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Barcelona's winning bid to take the America's Cup offshore has fallen short of the projected $200 million Team New Zealand said would be needed to mount a successful America's Cup defence.
Barcelona was unveiled as the host of the 37th America's Cup yesterday after a long and drawn-out process to find a venue. The Herald can confirm the Catalonian bid came with an offer of $112m with $72m from public institutions and the remaining $40m from private entities.
That sum does not include any potential spend on infrastructure, as the city is already well prepared to host the event. A spokesperson for the bid confirmed everything they need for the venue is already in place – the facilities, the infrastructure, and areas for fans and teams.
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Anybody interested in this now that the traitors stole government money and ran away offshore with it?
Team Treason won in Jeddah ahead of Team Luna Rossa Prada Pirelli (to be called LRPP in future) who basically crashed (into the water they were supposed to be flying above). The previous Team Traitor (Alinghi) came in third. (I actually don't care that much about TNZ winning anymore which is a shame I like to see Kiwis doing well but even if they win it will be somewhere else so - meh).
Regardless of the turncoat nature of the AC, those boats are great to watch. This was the AC 45s with the next lot being the bigger AC75 which will be up to %30 faster apparently. Very cool machines.
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Anybody interested in this now that the traitors stole government money and ran away offshore with it?
Team Treason won in Jeddah ahead of Team Luna Rossa Prada Pirelli (to be called LRPP in future) who basically crashed (into the water they were supposed to be flying above). The previous Team Traitor (Alinghi) came in third. (I actually don't care that much about TNZ winning anymore which is a shame I like to see Kiwis doing well but even if they win it will be somewhere else so - meh).
Regardless of the turncoat nature of the AC, those boats are great to watch. This was the AC 45s with the next lot being the bigger AC75 which will be up to %30 faster apparently. Very cool machines.
@Snowy i still love it, unfortunately i think theyve shown they get more challengers and therefor more money and sponsorship by taking it overseas, maybe if they can get the interest back up they might be able to bring every other one back to NZ (assuming we win)
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Anybody interested in this now that the traitors stole government money and ran away offshore with it?
Team Treason won in Jeddah ahead of Team Luna Rossa Prada Pirelli (to be called LRPP in future) who basically crashed (into the water they were supposed to be flying above). The previous Team Traitor (Alinghi) came in third. (I actually don't care that much about TNZ winning anymore which is a shame I like to see Kiwis doing well but even if they win it will be somewhere else so - meh).
Regardless of the turncoat nature of the AC, those boats are great to watch. This was the AC 45s with the next lot being the bigger AC75 which will be up to %30 faster apparently. Very cool machines.
