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Crusaders v Hurricanes

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  • sharkS shark

    Good to see Barrett get another crack at 12. Say what you like about Holland but he's the first coach to select Barrett in what I believe is his best position since he debuted in the NPC for Canterbury. I've been suggesting this for years.

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    @shark said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

    Good to see Barrett get another crack at 12. Say what you like about Holland but he's the first coach to select Barrett in what I believe is his best position since he debuted in the NPC for Canterbury. I've been suggesting this for years.

    It is noted that it has taken him a season and a half to do so.

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      Good to see Barrett get another crack at 12. Say what you like about Holland but he's the first coach to select Barrett in what I believe is his best position since he debuted in the NPC for Canterbury. I've been suggesting this for years.

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      @shark said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

      Good to see Barrett get another crack at 12. Say what you like about Holland but he's the first coach to select Barrett in what I believe is his best position since he debuted in the NPC for Canterbury. I've been suggesting this for years.

      Holland started Jordie at 12 in 2019 for a game too. Obviously Laumape was around but I think they could have given Jordie more opportunities at 12 over the years.

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        Anyone worry that Barrett's height might be a defensive disadvantage at 12?

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          Anyone worry that Barrett's height might be a defensive disadvantage at 12?

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          @tim Interesting question. What is the reasoning?

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            @tim Interesting question. What is the reasoning?

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            @old-samurai-jack Getting low enough for head on tackles. Could put at risk of penalty/card for a high shot.

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              No different than locks that often defend similar areas, not a problem IMO

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              • TimT Tim

                Anyone worry that Barrett's height might be a defensive disadvantage at 12?

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                @tim said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                Anyone worry that Barrett's height might be a defensive disadvantage at 12?

                Interesting point with the lower tackle height requirements.
                He's the height of a lock and they dont have issues close in. In the open it hasnt been an issue either but yeah, at 12 there are sometimes those middle ground issues of wanting to wrap the ball up but having less time to adjust.
                Doesn't look like a problem for him.

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @tim said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                  Anyone worry that Barrett's height might be a defensive disadvantage at 12?

                  Interesting point with the lower tackle height requirements.
                  He's the height of a lock and they dont have issues close in. In the open it hasnt been an issue either but yeah, at 12 there are sometimes those middle ground issues of wanting to wrap the ball up but having less time to adjust.
                  Doesn't look like a problem for him.

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                  @crucial I'd imagine that the difference with a lock is that a 12 has to cover more ground with sliding on defence, so isn't as "set" for a front on tackle as a lock?

                  Hopefully won't be a problem.

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                    Anyone worry that Barrett's height might be a defensive disadvantage at 12?

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                    @tim said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                    Anyone worry that Barrett's height might be a defensive disadvantage at 12?

                    Dunno perhaps ask Josh Ioane how his rubs are, and how high they are.
                    But naa mate tackling at 12 is same as tackling at 15 in being able to lower height.

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @shark said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                      Good to see Barrett get another crack at 12. Say what you like about Holland but he's the first coach to select Barrett in what I believe is his best position since he debuted in the NPC for Canterbury. I've been suggesting this for years.

                      I wouldn't give Holland credit in this regard. He has put Jordie there as about 7th or 8th attempt from his squad. FFS he even played Julian Savea there before him.

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                      @crucial said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                      @shark said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                      Good to see Barrett get another crack at 12. Say what you like about Holland but he's the first coach to select Barrett in what I believe is his best position since he debuted in the NPC for Canterbury. I've been suggesting this for years.

                      I wouldn't give Holland credit in this regard. He has put Jordie there as about 7th or 8th attempt from his squad. FFS he even played Julian Savea there before him.

                      Reckon it's much more about J.Barrett wanting to play at 12, rather than Holland wanting him to play there.

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                        Anyone know when Dane Coles will be back?

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                          Anyone know when Dane Coles will be back?

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                          @wreck-diver
                          He is not in the Poneke lineup for today so might still be carrying an injury. If I see him watching his guys at Hataitai Park I will see what I can find out for you.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @crucial said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                            Pretty sure there was an AB XV rolled out at some stage last year that wasn’t much different

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                            @bones said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                            @crucial said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                            Pretty sure there was an AB XV rolled out at some stage last year that wasn’t much different

                            @ACT-Crusader

                            Take away 3, 5, 6 and 9 and it’s 2002 again 😉

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                              https://twitter.com/crusadersrugby/status/1512642220259778565

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                                https://twitter.com/crusadersrugby/status/1512642220259778565

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                                @stargazer said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                                https://twitter.com/crusadersrugby/status/1512642220259778565

                                Thats a shame I was looking forward to seeing Blackadder at 7. It's probably his best position at Test level

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                                  Amua also out O’Reilly starting.

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                                    @Stargazer
                                    Kereru-Symes on the bench for the Canes.

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                                      Kereru-Symes on the bench for the Canes.

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                                      @chris Wow, that's a surprise! Glad he's playing against another debutant!

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                                        TJ Perenara out.

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                                          TJ Perenara out.

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                                          @dice said in Crusaders v Hurricanes:

                                          TJ Perenara out.

                                          Booth starts, Roigard on the bench

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