Steve Tew: New Zealand ready for a gay All Black
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<p>From what I hear at the sideline or in the stands when watching club rugby, or read about in the media, it is still an issue. The bigotry and name-calling is sometimes terrible. Homophobic, sexist and racist abuse is still widely prevalent among <em>some </em>NZ crowds. Having racial diversity in the ABs hasn't stopped that, so I'm not sure having an openly gay All Black will stop homophobic behaviour, but it may help to a degree. And it's not just about the crowds; it may also help gay players to come out of the closet.</p>
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<p>Like I said, there will always be dickheads. I'm just not sure that this type of focus and talk of "sexual diversity" is particularly beneficial. If there is a gay AB out there, he probably isn't overly keen on the idea of being paraded around as "the gay Allblack", i.e. being treated differently to everyone else.</p> -
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I find it really strange that people can be so interested in what other people do in the privacy of their own bedroom. Creepy really. When I meet someone, who they have sex with and how they do it are not really at the top of my list of things I want to know about them.<br><br>
We could delve into another debate on religion here... :)</p></blockquote>
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Like I said, there will always be dickheads. I'm just not sure that this type of focus and talk of "sexual diversity" is particularly beneficial. If there is a gay AB out there, he probably isn't overly keen on the idea of being paraded around as "the gay Allblack", i.e. being treated differently to everyone else.</p></blockquote>
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The last part is probably a huge factor, it'd be pretty hard to have a relationship too if the media saw you as there go to person every time a gay rights issue came up. Someone might actually want that and good on them if they do but the 100000 watt glare of being an ab in a rugby mad country would be more than enough attention for most people I would have thought. -
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<p>I've always thought my interest in what our sapphic sisters got up to in the bedroom was celebrating diversity rather than creepy.</p>
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<p>I've been tonsils-deep in a young lady who later became a code hopper (I don't claim responsibility for that). In at least one particular respect I did not note any diversity whatsoever between her and a garden variety lady.</p> -
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I've been tonsils-deep in a young lady who later became a code hopper (I don't claim responsibility for that). In at least one particular respect I did not note any diversity whatsoever between her and a garden variety lady.</p></blockquote>
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I got the tip off about Roberts years before he came out , in a conversation with some kiwi internationals . Won't mention their names here . <br><br>
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<p>Are you sure? I'd associate the phrase tonsils deep more with a chutney ferret than a lotus patch</p>
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<p>On reflection I can see the association you have made. My terminology seems to be amiss and I do apologise for my lack of accuracy. As to the actual situation, I can confirm that it was like Mr Whippy had trundled into my neighbourhood and I had ordered a warm fish milkshake.</p> -
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<p>I got the tip off about Roberts years before he came out , in a conversation with some kiwi internationals . Won't mention their names here ..</p>
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<p>Ridge is one of Robert's best friends from their Manly days.</p>
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<p>If you believe some of the rumours, and the story from a former TVNZ presenter we've already had gay ABs.</p> -
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<p>If you believe some of the rumours, and the story from a former TVNZ presenter we've already had gay ABs.</p>
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<p>It's highly likely, but who cares.</p>
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<p>This 'news' is about as interesting as the bloody bachelor, or one of those never ending home renovation shows. </p> -
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<p>It's highly likely, but who cares.</p>
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<p><strong>This 'news' is about as interesting as the bloody bachelor, or one of those never ending home renovation shows. </strong></p>
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<p>pretty low starting point...I could write a blog about what I did at work today between 11.59 and 12.01 and expect it would be more interesting than the bachelor.</p> -
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<p>pretty low starting point...I could write a blog about what I did at work today between 11.59 and 12.01 and expect it would be more interesting than the bachelor.</p>
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<p>Prepping your 12:05 and 12:08 posts?</p> -
<p>nah, I did that yesterday.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Smudge" data-cid="584387" data-time="1464729893"><p>
Good god, you're a drama queen. <br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
Just to confirm, I'm not using the word ''queen'' in a homophobic way.<br></p></blockquote>
Hard to deny though that there is a problem with homophobic, racist and anti-Semitic abuse on-line and in some places it is getting worse. Over the years, the Fern has been well moderated and regulated. <br><br>
I'm not mad keen on the way one or two mods at the moment think it is their prerogative to abuse fellow posters. And yes I'll make a drama of my opposition to racism and bigotry. -
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I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body. Just not one of those lesbians that likes the fat ugly bull-dykes. Halfback.</p></blockquote>I'd seen you'd just posted in here, and couldn't click in quick enough to see what you'd come up with.<br><br>
It's not a bad effort, but I think I was expecting something far more fiery from you. -
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Ridge is one of Robert's best friends from their Manly days.<br><br>
If you believe some of the rumours, and the story from a former TVNZ presenter we've already had gay ABs.</p></blockquote>
There's been gay All Blacks beyond any shadow of a doubt. It's inconceivable to me that we haven't.
