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Crusaders v Blues

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  • sharkS shark

    I've only seen a YouTube highlights package but have to say well played to the Blues, a deserved win. Papali'i clearly the star turn in either forward pack but Jordan seems to have also had another big night. It's now a Papali'i vs Savea debate for mine.

    As an aside, I was quite dismayed by the lack of gas shown by Dom Gardiner as he pretty much lumbered towards the corner. He had a head start and the angle from around 22 out but was easily mown down well short of the corner. He's supposed to be a 6 (albeit covering lock in this 23) and should be able to make more of a contest of that situation.

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    @shark said in Crusaders v Blues:

    I've only seen a YouTube highlights package but have to say well played to the Blues, a deserved win. Papali'i clearly the star turn in either forward pack but Jordan seems to have also had another big night. It's now a Papali'i vs Savea debate for mine.

    As an aside, I was quite dismayed by the lack of gas shown by Dom Gardiner as he pretty much lumbered towards the corner. He had a head start and the angle from around 22 out but was easily mown down well short of the corner. He's supposed to be a 6 (albeit covering lock in this 23) and should be able to make more of a contest of that situation.

    Gardiner had the ball in the wrong arm and couldn’t fend. Rugby 101.

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    • sharkS shark

      I've only seen a YouTube highlights package but have to say well played to the Blues, a deserved win. Papali'i clearly the star turn in either forward pack but Jordan seems to have also had another big night. It's now a Papali'i vs Savea debate for mine.

      As an aside, I was quite dismayed by the lack of gas shown by Dom Gardiner as he pretty much lumbered towards the corner. He had a head start and the angle from around 22 out but was easily mown down well short of the corner. He's supposed to be a 6 (albeit covering lock in this 23) and should be able to make more of a contest of that situation.

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      @shark said in Crusaders v Blues:
      ne.

      As an aside, I was quite dismayed by the lack of gas shown by Dom Gardiner as he pretty much lumbered towards the corner. He had a head start and the angle from around 22 out but was easily mown down well short of the corner. He's supposed to be a 6 (albeit covering lock in this 23) and should be able to make more of a contest of that situation.

      I remember a ererily-similar incident at the Mudgee 7's about 17yrs ago. Pool play, Woollahra Colleagues 5th Grade Subbies playing someone-or-other, getting dusted I think. One of decent players got us into good space, and from the ensuing ruck, someone else put me into a massive gap with nobody in sight and just the corner to reach. About 5m I had to cover, can't have been anyone within 10m of me. I put my head down and went for it, but came up 2-3m short, cut down by someone built more like Bull Allen than Reiko.

      I hung my head in shame and never lived it down.

      In my defense, I had had 5-6 beers before the game, which I do not recommend to the fans at home.

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          Watching the replay now.

          Marshall: Christ what a piston wristed gibbon

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            @shark said in Crusaders v Blues:
            ne.

            As an aside, I was quite dismayed by the lack of gas shown by Dom Gardiner as he pretty much lumbered towards the corner. He had a head start and the angle from around 22 out but was easily mown down well short of the corner. He's supposed to be a 6 (albeit covering lock in this 23) and should be able to make more of a contest of that situation.

            I remember a ererily-similar incident at the Mudgee 7's about 17yrs ago. Pool play, Woollahra Colleagues 5th Grade Subbies playing someone-or-other, getting dusted I think. One of decent players got us into good space, and from the ensuing ruck, someone else put me into a massive gap with nobody in sight and just the corner to reach. About 5m I had to cover, can't have been anyone within 10m of me. I put my head down and went for it, but came up 2-3m short, cut down by someone built more like Bull Allen than Reiko.

            I hung my head in shame and never lived it down.

            In my defense, I had had 5-6 beers before the game, which I do not recommend to the fans at home.

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            @voodoo said in Crusaders v Blues:

            @shark said in Crusaders v Blues:
            ne.

            As an aside, I was quite dismayed by the lack of gas shown by Dom Gardiner as he pretty much lumbered towards the corner. He had a head start and the angle from around 22 out but was easily mown down well short of the corner. He's supposed to be a 6 (albeit covering lock in this 23) and should be able to make more of a contest of that situation.

            I remember a ererily-similar incident at the Mudgee 7's about 17yrs ago. Pool play, Woollahra Colleagues 5th Grade Subbies playing someone-or-other, getting dusted I think. One of decent players got us into good space, and from the ensuing ruck, someone else put me into a massive gap with nobody in sight and just the corner to reach. About 5m I had to cover, can't have been anyone within 10m of me. I put my head down and went for it, but came up 2-3m short, cut down by someone built more like Bull Allen than Reiko.

            I hung my head in shame and never lived it down.

            In my defense, I had had 5-6 beers before the game, which I do not recommend to the fans at home.

            He was pretty quick and explosive to be fair, I wouldn’t be too embarrassed.

            Then again I’m doing the maths and you having to run 5 metres, the opposition having to run 10 metres and you still falling 2-3 metres short indicates a poor effort from you overall. Must try harder next time.

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              Reece and Mo'unga are liabilities on defence. Lots of arm tackles

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                Reece and Mo'unga are liabilities on defence. Lots of arm tackles

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                @nzzp said in Crusaders v Blues:

                Reece and Mo'unga are liabilities on defence. Lots of arm tackles

                While at first glance that seems kosher, if Jordan and Havili are too, how are the crusaders so successful with over half the backline being leaky?

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                  @nzzp said in Crusaders v Blues:

                  Reece and Mo'unga are liabilities on defence. Lots of arm tackles

                  While at first glance that seems kosher, if Jordan and Havili are too, how are the crusaders so successful with over half the backline being leaky?

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                  @bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

                  @nzzp said in Crusaders v Blues:

                  Reece and Mo'unga are liabilities on defence. Lots of arm tackles

                  While at first glance that seems kosher, if Jordan and Havili are too, how are the crusaders so successful with over half the backline being leaky?

                  They leak points these days? I mean, they are good, but missing tackles is a real issue.

                  Just seen the Havili yc. It's reasonable, but marginal. Have to release, but that's also not as quality a carry add it should be

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                    Bryn Hall showing his strengths and weaknesses. Credit to Robertson for getting the best from him, but he's limited.

                    Ofa, Dalton, Rieko outstanding in the first half.

                    Rieko just so much pace

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                      Don't judge me for being a day late.

                      Shout out to the ref team, solid first half.

                      Perofeta can't miss shots like that consistently.wtaf

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @shark said in Crusaders v Blues:

                        Compare that to the Blues sporting the likes of Eklund, old man Romano, Goodhue, Lam, Lay, Choat and Heem, none of whom would have been required in Super Rugby's hey day

                        You mean in the glory days of Corey Flynn, Ross Filipo, Con Barrell, Sam Broomhall, and Adam Whitelock? All those players you named are high quality at Super Rugby level. Lay was very solid for Bristol in the UK Premiership.

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                        @tim said in Crusaders v Blues:

                        @shark said in Crusaders v Blues:

                        Compare that to the Blues sporting the likes of Eklund, old man Romano, Goodhue, Lam, Lay, Choat and Heem, none of whom would have been required in Super Rugby's hey day

                        You mean in the glory days of Corey Flynn, Ross Filipo, Con Barrell, Sam Broomhall, and Adam Whitelock? All those players you named are high quality at Super Rugby level. Lay was very solid for Bristol in the UK Premiership.

                        You have zero knowledge

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                          Jesus Barrett S just went for it. Insanity. Could have pulled out of that

                          How did the refs miss these red cards in real time?

                          Christ, ScoBa should get 8 weeks for that. Filth.

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                            Marshall: no intent. Ffs

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                            • sharkS shark

                              @tim said in Crusaders v Blues:

                              @shark said in Crusaders v Blues:

                              Compare that to the Blues sporting the likes of Eklund, old man Romano, Goodhue, Lam, Lay, Choat and Heem, none of whom would have been required in Super Rugby's hey day

                              You mean in the glory days of Corey Flynn, Ross Filipo, Con Barrell, Sam Broomhall, and Adam Whitelock? All those players you named are high quality at Super Rugby level. Lay was very solid for Bristol in the UK Premiership.

                              You have zero knowledge

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                              @shark

                              Great answer. About as well reasoned as your original post, or your classic "Akira Ioane couldn't make the Canterbury team" posts.

                              Share some of your great knowledge some time though. Please do. They'll probably be such great posts that they make the Crusaders win that game, or their players look adequate at test level.

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                                Hell yeah, a maul try! About time against these guys

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @stargazer That seems pretty accurate.

                                  I think Cullen Grace is worth a mention - prominent with ball in hand and made metres off the back of the scrum when needed. He looks more like an AB this season than the year he was picked. Even with several loosies ruled out there's going to be one or two unlucky guys when it comes to AB selection.

                                  Newell caught my eye with a couple of powerful surges near the line when he came on.

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                                  @chris-b said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                  @stargazer That seems pretty accurate.

                                  I think Cullen Grace is worth a mention - prominent with ball in hand and made metres off the back of the scrum when needed. He looks more like an AB this season than the year he was picked. Even with several loosies ruled out there's going to be one or two unlucky guys when it comes to AB selection.

                                  Newell caught my eye with a couple of powerful surges near the line when he came on.
                                  Grace doesn't have enough 'X Factor'. Write him off

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                                    Bb great cross kick. Isolated Mo'unga so well

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      @shark

                                      Great answer. About as well reasoned as your original post, or your classic "Akira Ioane couldn't make the Canterbury team" posts.

                                      Share some of your great knowledge some time though. Please do. They'll probably be such great posts that they make the Crusaders win that game, or their players look adequate at test level.

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                                      @tim said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                      @shark

                                      Great answer. About as well reasoned as your original post, or your classic "Akira Ioane couldn't make the Canterbury team" posts.

                                      Share some of your great knowledge some time though. Please do. They'll probably be such great posts that they make the Crusaders win that game, or their players look adequate at test level.

                                      You're a fuckwit. And you know fuck all

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                                      • nzzpN nzzp

                                        Jesus Barrett S just went for it. Insanity. Could have pulled out of that

                                        How did the refs miss these red cards in real time?

                                        Christ, ScoBa should get 8 weeks for that. Filth.

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                                        @nzzp said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                        Jesus Barrett S just went for it. Insanity. Could have pulled out of that

                                        How did the refs miss these red cards in real time?

                                        Christ, ScoBa should get 8 weeks for that. Filth.

                                        So Nepo should have got 8 weeks, too?

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                                          Havili's kicking has been sensational. Just not physical enough for 12 against good teams, but a hell of a player

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