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  • Kid ChocolateK Offline
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    @majorrage said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:

    LOTO in the UK Sir Keir, was asked this morning if woman can have penises.

    He was completely unable to answer.

    Type “strap-on” into the google and click on images.

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    @majorrage said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:

    LOTO in the UK Sir Keir, was asked this morning if woman can have penises.

    He was completely unable to answer.

    It’s a promising step that he was even asked the question. Who would ask Ardern?

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    @kid-chocolate said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:

    @majorrage said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:

    LOTO in the UK Sir Keir, was asked this morning if woman can have penises.

    He was completely unable to answer.

    Type “strap-on” into the google and click on images.

    Interesting to know what you were browsing when you stumbled on that

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    @catogrande said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:

    @kid-chocolate said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:

    @majorrage said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:

    LOTO in the UK Sir Keir, was asked this morning if woman can have penises.

    He was completely unable to answer.

    Type “strap-on” into the google and click on images.

    Interesting to know what you were browsing when you stumbled on that

    Are you looking to compare notes?

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    Increasingly it is looking like some sanity is coming back to this issue.

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    Any political party with any brains will bring this back or will get hammered by the general public.

    Oops, I see my assumption.

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    Wise decision. A victory for common sense.

    Cycling

    Transgender women no longer able to compete at elite female events run by British Cycling

    Transgender women no longer able to compete at elite female events run by British Cycling

    Transgender women are no longer able to compete at elite female events run by British Cycling after the organisation suspended its current policy.

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    Good points raised here I thought.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/61157886

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    @MajorRage

    Just simple common sense isn’t it? Basically saying what most on here feel but from a more involved perspective.

    I wonder how long before the poor girl gets demonised.

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    @Catogrande yep. This part very pertinent

    Archibald says that as a female athlete she also feels "let down" by the policies and particularly aimed criticism at the IOC.

    "I feel let down by the IOC who tell me there should be no assumed advantage for an athlete with a gender identity different to their sex," Archibald said.

    "I read this and hear my world titles, Olympic medals and the champions jerseys I have at home were all won in a category of people who simply don't try as hard as the men."

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    Looks like this parent underestimated just how fukin cool tractors are

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    @No-Quarter aren't they the ones stereotyping males by making the rule that tractors are a male only domain? This confusing world.

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    @No-Quarter said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:

    Looks like this parent underestimated just how fukin cool tractors are

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    The is one of the many things where activists are tone deaf.

    My son loves all the stereotypical boy stuff, my daughter all the stereotypical girl stuff. They always have.

    Putting dolls in boys hands and toy cars in girls hands won't achieve a single thing. Kids gravitate towards what they want to.

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    @Bones said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:

    @No-Quarter aren't they the ones stereotyping males by making the rule that tractors are a male only domain? This confusing world.

    They are the mirror image of the ultra traditional conservatives with the amount of importance they put on gender roles and stereotypes in society. Other than them, basically nobody in western countries are enforcing strict gender roles. In fact in human history we probably have the loosest gender roles ever by a huge margin.

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    @MajorRage said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:

    @No-Quarter said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:

    Looks like this parent underestimated just how fukin cool tractors are

    20220425_101623.jpg

    The is one of the many things where activists are tone deaf.

    My son loves all the stereotypical boy stuff, my daughter all the stereotypical girl stuff. They always have.

    Putting dolls in boys hands and toy cars in girls hands won't achieve a single thing. Kids gravitate towards what they want to.

    Yeah, as a parent one thing that becomes very clear with your kids from an early age is that you have almost no influence on what they like. They will do their own thing regardless of what you say. In this story the Dad does end up realising this and there's a pic of him taking the boy on a tractor. You can't fight biology.

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    Edit: two things about the above.

    1. The ABC story is headlined "what the science says", but includes reference/interview with only one mrdical professional, who makes unquantified claims about one aspect, ie., strength reduces through testosterone reduction. Doesn't say how much by.
    2. Interesting they include the counselling services at the end of that article. More grandstanding about the feels of the mentally ill. The cynic in me suggests it's not a bad thing but for different reasons than the publishers think.
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    The “controversy” is a birth certificate. The sex identified at birth is the “gender” that students are restricted to participate in athletics. Seems like common sense to me, but I’m a knuckle-dragger, hence, controversial.

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    Important to remember.

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