Rebels v Crusaders
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@antipodean said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@NTA said in Rebels v Crusaders:
61:22 - Crusaders throw the ball in. Two of their players move inside the 5m before Whitelock drops it down to them. Is that illegal? Lineout isn't over, after all. Only the hooker could be there I thought?
Once the ball is thrown you can move.
Right - I knew the 15m rule and that the hooker/opponent could be there. The crucial bit is 29d after "any player in the lineout may...".
*Leave the lineout so as to be in a position to receive the ball, provided they remain within 10 metres of the mark of touch and they keep moving until the lineout is over. *
If they move in there and AREN'T in a position to receive (i.e. ahead of the ball), then it's a short arm.
@NTA said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@antipodean said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@NTA said in Rebels v Crusaders:
61:22 - Crusaders throw the ball in. Two of their players move inside the 5m before Whitelock drops it down to them. Is that illegal? Lineout isn't over, after all. Only the hooker could be there I thought?
Once the ball is thrown you can move.
Right - I knew the 15m rule and that the hooker/opponent could be there. The crucial bit is 29d after "any player in the lineout may...".
*Leave the lineout so as to be in a position to receive the ball, provided they remain within 10 metres of the mark of touch and they keep moving until the lineout is over. *
If they move in there and AREN'T in a position to receive (i.e. ahead of the ball), then it's a short arm.
That particular requirement (and to keep moving) is more honoured in the breach...
There is a specific law about the 15m but nothing about the 5m line. Ergo it is fine.
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@KiwiMurph said in Rebels v Crusaders:
T Williams ABs? Wouldn't mind it.
Not so keen on his defence there though
@Bones especially given the AB defence patterns won't improve him...
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@NTA said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@antipodean said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@NTA said in Rebels v Crusaders:
61:22 - Crusaders throw the ball in. Two of their players move inside the 5m before Whitelock drops it down to them. Is that illegal? Lineout isn't over, after all. Only the hooker could be there I thought?
Once the ball is thrown you can move.
Right - I knew the 15m rule and that the hooker/opponent could be there. The crucial bit is 29d after "any player in the lineout may...".
*Leave the lineout so as to be in a position to receive the ball, provided they remain within 10 metres of the mark of touch and they keep moving until the lineout is over. *
If they move in there and AREN'T in a position to receive (i.e. ahead of the ball), then it's a short arm.
That particular requirement (and to keep moving) is more honoured in the breach...
There is a specific law about the 15m but nothing about the 5m line. Ergo it is fine.
@Damo said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@NTA said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@antipodean said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@NTA said in Rebels v Crusaders:
61:22 - Crusaders throw the ball in. Two of their players move inside the 5m before Whitelock drops it down to them. Is that illegal? Lineout isn't over, after all. Only the hooker could be there I thought?
Once the ball is thrown you can move.
Right - I knew the 15m rule and that the hooker/opponent could be there. The crucial bit is 29d after "any player in the lineout may...".
*Leave the lineout so as to be in a position to receive the ball, provided they remain within 10 metres of the mark of touch and they keep moving until the lineout is over. *
If they move in there and AREN'T in a position to receive (i.e. ahead of the ball), then it's a short arm.
That particular requirement (and to keep moving) is more honoured in the breach...
There is a specific law about the 15m but nothing about the 5m line. Ergo it is fine.
Fucking lawyers
Edit: tongue in cheek I hope it's realised. Your law clarifications are gold dust.
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Very much a mixed bag out there from the saders, some sublime stuff with some shit stuff.
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Very much a mixed bag out there from the saders, some sublime stuff with some shit stuff.
@taniwharugby handling errors. Terrible
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Very much a mixed bag out there from the saders, some sublime stuff with some shit stuff.
@taniwharugby said in Rebels v Crusaders:
Very much a mixed bag out there from the saders, some sublime stuff with some shit stuff.
Jet lag
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Matera and Blackadder were Hugh for the Crusaders especially in the 2nd half
Bower and Jager put in good shifts.Mounga too.Gallagher,Newell, and Williams are really developing for a 20 year old and 2- 21 year olds especially as they are tight forwards.
It will be interesting to see How Havilli and Christie slot back in next week,Jordan of course will be back at FB.Fantastic to see Goodhue back for a first real game back in a year I thought he went really well he will only get better and better.
Drummond was shit.Bridge even though he did some good stuff his lack of pace showed out at FB.If Jordan has played we probably would have finished off a few more tries.
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@Duluth said in Rebels v Crusaders:
Crusaders tackling at 97%, Rebels 73%
Somehow it’s only 7-0
That first half we played like a bunch of over excited school kids - needed to just settle down and trust the process.
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Matera and Blackadder were Hugh for the Crusaders especially in the 2nd half
Bower and Jager put in good shifts.Mounga too.Gallagher,Newell, and Williams are really developing for a 20 year old and 2- 21 year olds especially as they are tight forwards.
It will be interesting to see How Havilli and Christie slot back in next week,Jordan of course will be back at FB.Fantastic to see Goodhue back for a first real game back in a year I thought he went really well he will only get better and better.
Drummond was shit.Bridge even though he did some good stuff his lack of pace showed out at FB.If Jordan has played we probably would have finished off a few more tries.
@Chris Bridge played better…..better than Ennor…
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@Chris Bridge played better…..better than Ennor…
@ACT-Crusader said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@Chris Bridge played better…..better than Ennor…
E noho ra Ennor
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@Chris Bridge played better…..better than Ennor…
@ACT-Crusader said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@Chris Bridge played better…..better than Ennor…
His lack of pace was exposed a few times from FB not his best position.
I can’t see him in the top xv anymore.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@Chris Bridge played better…..better than Ennor…
His lack of pace was exposed a few times from FB not his best position.
I can’t see him in the top xv anymore.
@Chris said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@ACT-Crusader said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@Chris Bridge played better…..better than Ennor…
His lack of pace was exposed a few times from FB not his best position.
I can’t see him in the top xv anymore.
As I posted earlier, if everyone is fit it’s a fight between him and Ennor for the bench spot.
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@Chris said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@ACT-Crusader said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@Chris Bridge played better…..better than Ennor…
His lack of pace was exposed a few times from FB not his best position.
I can’t see him in the top xv anymore.
As I posted earlier, if everyone is fit it’s a fight between him and Ennor for the bench spot.
@ACT-Crusader said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@Chris said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@ACT-Crusader said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@Chris Bridge played better…..better than Ennor…
His lack of pace was exposed a few times from FB not his best position.
I can’t see him in the top xv anymore.
As I posted earlier, if everyone is fit it’s a fight between him and Ennor for the bench spot.
Good for you.
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Matera and Blackadder were Hugh for the Crusaders especially in the 2nd half
Bower and Jager put in good shifts.Mounga too.Gallagher,Newell, and Williams are really developing for a 20 year old and 2- 21 year olds especially as they are tight forwards.
It will be interesting to see How Havilli and Christie slot back in next week,Jordan of course will be back at FB.Fantastic to see Goodhue back for a first real game back in a year I thought he went really well he will only get better and better.
Drummond was shit.Bridge even though he did some good stuff his lack of pace showed out at FB.If Jordan has played we probably would have finished off a few more tries.
@Chris said in Rebels v Crusaders:
Fantastic to see Goodhue back for a first real game back in a year I thought he went really well he will only get better and better.
Yeah, a good comeback. Didn't do anything spectacular, didn't do anything poorly and lasted 60 minutes. I'll settle for that.
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@Chris said in Rebels v Crusaders:
Fantastic to see Goodhue back for a first real game back in a year I thought he went really well he will only get better and better.
Yeah, a good comeback. Didn't do anything spectacular, didn't do anything poorly and lasted 60 minutes. I'll settle for that.
@Victor-Meldrew said in Rebels v Crusaders:
@Chris said in Rebels v Crusaders:
Fantastic to see Goodhue back for a first real game back in a year I thought he went really well he will only get better and better.
Yeah, a good comeback. Didn't do anything spectacular, didn't do anything poorly and lasted 60 minutes. I'll settle for that.
Yeah me too,considering he has been out for a year,
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How the hell were the Rebels designated with an away game while playing at home. What sort of muppet does it take to come up with that.
@Stag said in Rebels v Crusaders:
How the hell were the Rebels designated with an away game while playing at home. What sort of muppet does it take to come up with that.
After the draw changed, a lot of pieces shifted with Super Round - the event was being run by a single company, but the home ground stuff like commentators, advertising etc. was all changed accordginly.
I saw on Twitter somewhere that the Kiwi franchises were given a flat fee in lieu of gate takings.
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The big back row worked well. Missing an out and out fetcher but wreaked havoc both offensively and defensively. Grace defends close to the ruck and runs support lines up fat man's ally allowing Matera and Blackadder to range wider. Will be interesting to see if it is as effective against a better side.
The Rebels were pretty poor so it is hard to judge anything really. Crusaders were guilty of white line fever at times and some scatterbrained decisions so left a lot of points out on the field.
Ennor...... Havili and Goodhue as the midfield FFS! -
The big back row worked well. Missing an out and out fetcher but wreaked havoc both offensively and defensively. Grace defends close to the ruck and runs support lines up fat man's ally allowing Matera and Blackadder to range wider. Will be interesting to see if it is as effective against a better side.
The Rebels were pretty poor so it is hard to judge anything really. Crusaders were guilty of white line fever at times and some scatterbrained decisions so left a lot of points out on the field.
Ennor...... Havili and Goodhue as the midfield FFS!@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Rebels v Crusaders:
Havili and Goodhue as the midfield FFS!
I will be mildly surprised if Razor selects that midfield after steadfastly sticking to today's one the last couple of years. Best coach can't be wrong!
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@Stag said in Rebels v Crusaders:
How the hell were the Rebels designated with an away game while playing at home. What sort of muppet does it take to come up with that.
After the draw changed, a lot of pieces shifted with Super Round - the event was being run by a single company, but the home ground stuff like commentators, advertising etc. was all changed accordginly.
I saw on Twitter somewhere that the Kiwi franchises were given a flat fee in lieu of gate takings.
@NTA said in Rebels v Crusaders:
somewhere that the Kiwi franchises were given a flat fee in lieu of gate takings.
Super Round will return for a second year in 2023 but expect it to be in round two of the competition, before the NRL and AFL seasons kick off. The concept, based on rugby league’s Magic Round, could be an excellent addition to the competition - but there is work to do.
The crowds were loud and spirited but modest, with 30,000 through the gate over three days and seven games of rugby. As a destination event, designed to lure over Kiwi rugby fans to fill Melbourne’s hotels, it flopped, but that wasn’t helped by understandably jittery New Zealand travellers, a paucity of flights and long-weekend plans.
There also needs to be across the board buy-in to put the ‘super’ in Super round. The rugby was quality but there was no razzle dazzle off the field to give the event that festival feel and while the Brumbies triumph over the Highlanders was a highlight, there should be more buy-in from the Australian teams. It’s a tough ask when you take into account Super Round’s complex reporting lines.
The concept is actually ‘owned’ by New Zealand Rugby, who’ve licensed it out to events company TEG Sport. TEG in turn negotiated a two-year deal with Visit Victoria to bring it to Melbourne, then paid the New Zealand teams who had to surrender home games a flat fee of about $300,000 in compensation for lost gate revenue.
