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Bones, you're not Robinson Crusoe. <br><br>
Cheika is not YET a great of the game. He could barely be considered a "good" of the game so far.<br><br>
He MAY turn out to be the Messiah, he may not. <br><br>
I reckon there was the same level of optimism for Deans early on, and for McKenzie. <br><br>
Temper your optimism.<br><br>
As someone said earlier one of the things we can look forward to is the potential serious denting of the halo of one of the coaches. I only hope it's Jones because England. That and English media. That and I really just dont rate him and despite what I wrote above I do rate Cheika (as the second best coach in the world). -
<p>Cheika's record in 2015 is won 10 lost 2 and the 2 losses were against the ABs. Not too shabby. Though the Wallabies were very close to slipping on their favourite banana peel Scotland ...</p>
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<p>England are 6 Nation grand slammers which must make them the greatest team in the known universe!</p>
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<p>Early chance for the Northern hemishpere to bite back after the WC. It's an enticing series but I sorta hope that both teams fizzle and it's a limp affair rather than a titanic struggle. You would expect the Wallabies to win 2 and lose 1.</p>
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<p>Cheika has some real talent at his disposal but definitely short in some areas.</p>
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<p>Will Skelton remain an impact player or will he start? Is he is a player to be feared? He is a behemoth of a human being.</p>
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<p>Under Deans & McKenzie the Wallabies had players like Ioane, Folau, Genia, Beale but the ABs always found a way to contain them, most particularly Genia & Folau. I feel that Scott Sio & Will Skelton give the tight five some serious umph which is where they have been second best for so long.</p> -
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<p>Kepus on his way home too apparently. </p>
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<p>Back to the Tahs. Though young Robertson is doing well at THP and we're a bit short on LHP :think: Might mean a switch back to the other side for Sekope? Certainly its time to cut Tilse and let some new blood in.</p>
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<p>Cheika is not YET a great of the game. He could barely be considered a "good" of the game so far.</p>
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<p>Barely? I'd say and unqualified "good" is a fair assessment at this point. Only coach to have won both a European Champions title and a Super Rugby title (and a Celtic Championship if we want to egg that pudding
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<p>I disagree slightly with Nick, I think that's a good analogy in some ways. He has pissed plenty of people off behind closed doors at the Tahs and Wallabies, but it seems he picks fights with suits not players.</p>
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<p>That is the difference to me - Cheika will protect his players, over and above the establishment. Jones would protect anyone only so far as they would help boost his profile.</p>
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<p>You can't please all the people all the time, but the suits will shut up if the players perform. I know which is more important.</p> -
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<p>Eddie had the same pedigee (Super title, <strong>RWC final</strong>) so yes.</p>
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<p>I'm not saying he's the greatest of all time. But my point was his record as a great coach is safe, at least in the minds of Waratahs fans like me.</p>
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<p>You guys probably don't see it that way- that's fine. I'm not really trying to argue with you. I'm a massive fan of his and am not going to hide that, as you guys probably are with Hansen.</p>
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<p>Wasn't Jones part of the 2007 RWC Final winning team? Not Australian team perhaps. Still part of the Final winning team.</p>
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<p>True, he was an assistant to Jake. And he has won a Six Nations now too.</p>
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<p>Fair to say that in some ways he is the most successful international coach of all time, given his achievements for multiple sides. In SOME ways.</p>
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Guess who wrote this<br><img src="http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160605/3b024c224be45fd578c4a7c011f00a0d.jpg" alt="3b024c224be45fd578c4a7c011f00a0d.jpg"> -
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I'm trying to figure out what would happen to New Zealand as it floated away from New Zealand.</p></blockquote>
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Just a bizarre line of reasoning isn't it.<br><br>
What's next?<br><br>
"Well, but, if NZ wasn't so good at rugby, how good at rugby would they be then, huh, huh"? -
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Yeah I'm not in tune with the papers here and started reading without checking the writer like I do with Ratpoo and Treason.</p></blockquote>
