Super Rugby 2022
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@Chris said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Machpants said in Chiefs vs Brumbies:
@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Brumbies:
@Bovidae said in Chiefs vs Brumbies:
Hopefully a few more players like Retallick, Ioane and Weber are back on deck this weekend or next, maybe even Stevenson. McMillan really needs to decide on his best back three from here on, and must realise that Gatland and Trask can't start together.
The Chiefs have played the 3 best Aust teams to date so as long as they win their remaining 3 games should secure 4th position and a home QF. That said, their away record is much better than their home record this season.
It looks increasingly likely that Kiwi teams are going to end up occupying positions 1-2 & 4-6, this assuming Reds/Brumbies lose to both the Crusaders & Blues in their remaining fixtures.
Big assumption
Yeah a lot of water under the Bridge before that happens.
Crusaders have to beat the Brumbies in Canberra so do the Blues.
Canes have to beat the Warratahs in Sydney all tough games.Our current worst franchise beat the Ponies in Canberra 33-12 10 months ago, take that how want.
@kiwi_expat said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Chris said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Machpants said in Chiefs vs Brumbies:
@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Brumbies:
@Bovidae said in Chiefs vs Brumbies:
Hopefully a few more players like Retallick, Ioane and Weber are back on deck this weekend or next, maybe even Stevenson. McMillan really needs to decide on his best back three from here on, and must realise that Gatland and Trask can't start together.
The Chiefs have played the 3 best Aust teams to date so as long as they win their remaining 3 games should secure 4th position and a home QF. That said, their away record is much better than their home record this season.
It looks increasingly likely that Kiwi teams are going to end up occupying positions 1-2 & 4-6, this assuming Reds/Brumbies lose to both the Crusaders & Blues in their remaining fixtures.
Big assumption
Yeah a lot of water under the Bridge before that happens.
Crusaders have to beat the Brumbies in Canberra so do the Blues.
Canes have to beat the Warratahs in Sydney all tough games.Our 2nd worst franchise beat the Ponies in Canberra 33-12 last season, take that how want.
Different beasts this season.The teams look a Lot different than last year as do the results.
Brumbies at home look a lot tougher proposition than last year. -
@kiwi_expat said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Chris said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Machpants said in Chiefs vs Brumbies:
@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Brumbies:
@Bovidae said in Chiefs vs Brumbies:
Hopefully a few more players like Retallick, Ioane and Weber are back on deck this weekend or next, maybe even Stevenson. McMillan really needs to decide on his best back three from here on, and must realise that Gatland and Trask can't start together.
The Chiefs have played the 3 best Aust teams to date so as long as they win their remaining 3 games should secure 4th position and a home QF. That said, their away record is much better than their home record this season.
It looks increasingly likely that Kiwi teams are going to end up occupying positions 1-2 & 4-6, this assuming Reds/Brumbies lose to both the Crusaders & Blues in their remaining fixtures.
Big assumption
Yeah a lot of water under the Bridge before that happens.
Crusaders have to beat the Brumbies in Canberra so do the Blues.
Canes have to beat the Warratahs in Sydney all tough games.Our 2nd worst franchise beat the Ponies in Canberra 33-12 last season, take that how want.
Different beasts this season.The teams look a Lot different than last year as do the results.
Brumbies at home look a lot tougher proposition than last year. -
@Chris interestingly, the Brumbies have a weaker squad than last season.
@kiwi_expat said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Chris interestingly, the Brumbies have a weaker squad than last season.
Getting better results though through playing better.That maybe an overall reflection of the strengths of the squads as well.
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@Chris Brumbies have a pretty favourable draw too, Highlanders was in Melbourne, Chiefs and MP away, rest at home.
@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Chris Brumbies have a pretty favourable draw too, Highlanders was in Melbourne, Chiefs and MP away, rest at home.
Brumbies play 4 games at home against the NZ teams. Seems a bit lopsided doesn't it?
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Chris Brumbies have a pretty favourable draw too, Highlanders was in Melbourne, Chiefs and MP away, rest at home.
Brumbies play 4 games at home against the NZ teams. Seems a bit lopsided doesn't it?
@kiwi_expat said in Super Rugby 2022:
@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Chris Brumbies have a pretty favourable draw too, Highlanders was in Melbourne, Chiefs and MP away, rest at home.
Brumbies play 4 games at home against the NZ teams. Seems a bit lopsided doesn't it?
Yeah they’ve probably got the best draw in the comp but then again they beat the Chiefs away so not sure if it matters for them too much. They just seem to be a bloody well coached side.
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@kiwi_expat said in Super Rugby 2022:
@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Chris Brumbies have a pretty favourable draw too, Highlanders was in Melbourne, Chiefs and MP away, rest at home.
Brumbies play 4 games at home against the NZ teams. Seems a bit lopsided doesn't it?
Yeah they’ve probably got the best draw in the comp but then again they beat the Chiefs away so not sure if it matters for them too much. They just seem to be a bloody well coached side.
@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
@kiwi_expat said in Super Rugby 2022:
@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Chris Brumbies have a pretty favourable draw too, Highlanders was in Melbourne, Chiefs and MP away, rest at home.
Brumbies play 4 games at home against the NZ teams. Seems a bit lopsided doesn't it?
Yeah they’ve probably got the best draw in the comp but then again they beat the Chiefs away so not sure if it matters for them too much. They just seem to be a bloody well coached side.
Limitd, but effective. Strong where they need to be - Scrums and Mauls. Fair play, if you find a comparative advantage, exploit away.
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Chris Brumbies have a pretty favourable draw too, Highlanders was in Melbourne, Chiefs and MP away, rest at home.
Brumbies play 4 games at home against the NZ teams. Seems a bit lopsided doesn't it?
@kiwi_expat said in Super Rugby 2022:
@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Chris Brumbies have a pretty favourable draw too, Highlanders was in Melbourne, Chiefs and MP away, rest at home.
Brumbies play 4 games at home against the NZ teams. Seems a bit lopsided doesn't it?
They actually got 3 home games against kiwi team, Highlanders was in Melbourne.
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@kiwi_expat said in Super Rugby 2022:
@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Chris Brumbies have a pretty favourable draw too, Highlanders was in Melbourne, Chiefs and MP away, rest at home.
Brumbies play 4 games at home against the NZ teams. Seems a bit lopsided doesn't it?
They actually got 3 home games against kiwi team, Highlanders was in Melbourne.
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@Dan54 i was there...it was effectively home game
@Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Dan54 i was there...it was effectively home game
Yep regardless mate, it was meant to be played at Dunedin, but the game was home ground was sold to Melbourne. It was legally Clan's home game.
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https://twitter.com/SuperRugby/status/1523852271213506560
So MP not getting their way and having to play this game mid-week again.
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And the Force won't have to travel as they play the Chiefs away before. MP have to return from Brisbane.
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MP have had such a shit deal this year, so hard for them to really show what they are capable of or even show much improvement with the hand they've been dealt, and will likely affect thier ability to attact any marquee signing.
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@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:
And the Force won't have to travel as they play the Chiefs away before. MP have to return from Brisbane.
And play the Brumbies 4 days later. That's going to be a massacre.
@Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:
And the Force won't have to travel as they play the Chiefs away before. MP have to return from Brisbane.
And play the Brumbies 4 days later. That's going to be a massacre.
Mauger should play his best team against the Force and weaker teams either side.
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The Waratahs’ top four hopes have received a boost, with Wallaby Ned Hanigan returning from Japan to bolster their finals charge. It is understood Hanigan, as well as former Wallaby Paddy Ryan, arrived at Daceyville on Monday after finishing their seasons in Japan. -
The Waratahs’ top four hopes have received a boost, with Wallaby Ned Hanigan returning from Japan to bolster their finals charge. It is understood Hanigan, as well as former Wallaby Paddy Ryan, arrived at Daceyville on Monday after finishing their seasons in Japan.@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2022:
The Waratahs’ top four hopes have received a boost, with Wallaby Ned Hanigan returning from Japan to bolster their finals charge. It is understood Hanigan, as well as former Wallaby Paddy Ryan, arrived at Daceyville on Monday after finishing their seasons in Japan.Lol that's a downgrade
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As we close in on the business end -
At end of Round 15, if teams are locked on points, the following steps are employed to determine who finishes higher:- most wins
- best points differential
- most tries
- best differential between tries scored and conceded, and finally
- a coin toss
Blues
45 points from 10 wins and 5 bonus points. Max. points: 60 – to play: Reds, Brumbies, Waratahs
Brumbies
43 points; 10 wins, 3 BPs. Max. points: 58 – to play: Crusaders, Blues, Moana Pasifika
Crusaders
39 points; 8 wins, 7 BPs. Max. points: 54 – to play: Brumbies, Drua, Reds
Chiefs
32 points; 7 wins, 4 BPs. Max. points: 47 – to play: Rebels, Force, Drua
Waratahs
32 points; 7 wins, 4 BPs. Max. points: 47 – to play: Hurricanes, Highlanders, Blues
Reds
31 points; 7 wins, 3 BPs. Max. points: 46 – to play: Blues, Moana Pasifika, Crusaders
Hurricanes
29 points; 6 wins, 5 BPs. Max. points – 44 – to play: Waratahs, Rebels, Force
Highlanders
17 points; 3 wins, 5 BPs. Max. points: 32 – to play: Force, Waratahs, Rebels
Rebels
15 points; 3 wins, 3 BPs. Max points: 30 – to play: Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders
Force
14 points; 2 wins, 6 BPs. Max points: 34 – to play: (Moana Pasifika), Highlanders, Chiefs, Hurricanes
Drua
7 points; 1 win, 3 BPs. Max. points: 22 – to play: Moana Pasifika, Crusaders, Chiefs
Moana Pasifika
6 points; 1 win, 2 BPs. Max points: 24 to play: (Force), Drua, Reds, Brumbies
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The official on line programme for this round -
https://www.flipsnack.com/tahs2015/srp-r13/full-view.html -
The official on line programme for this round -
https://www.flipsnack.com/tahs2015/srp-r13/full-view.html@Daffy-Jaffy I reckon this week's lineup is just full of bangers. Should be plenty of good contests, with meaningful matches.
Highlanders have a critical game to sneak into the 8,
Crusaders can't afford to drop their standards or it could be a nasty surprise
Blues looking to secure a top 4 spot with a couple of rounds to go, last home game in the regular season
Tahs Canes should be tasty - can the Tahs step back up to their Crusaders form?
Drua MP should be an epic battle that both sides are desparate to win
Chiefs game probably the worst of the lot in terms of quality and expectations.Roll on, plenty of TV time ahead! Hopefully I'll get to see most, including a group live at Eden Park on saturday night
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So is it as simple as often Kiwi teams are slow starters or are Aussie teams conditioning not upto it and unable to finish?
There have been numerous games now where aussie teams have lead, and reasonably well, only to be hauled back.
