Highlanders v Force
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@taniwharugby said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones I also dont like that it is called 'foul play'
To me, foul indicates dirty play
High tackles were pretty dirty in my day
Watch it at normal speed...
Certainly no malice.. Not deliberately head hunting..
Im guessing it's being implied that he was beaten, therefore shouldn't attempt the tackle.. As he wasn't going to be able to get low enough.
@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@taniwharugby said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones I also dont like that it is called 'foul play'
To me, foul indicates dirty play
High tackles were pretty dirty in my day
Watch it at normal speed...
Certainly no malice.. Not deliberately head hunting..
Im guessing it's being implied that he was beaten, therefore shouldn't attempt the tackle.. As he wasn't going to be able to get low enough.
Not sure what you're arguing with here. Normal speed or not, it's penalty at best, Dickson was really low. "what's he supposed to do" is not a defence though
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Of interest, in u10 grade and below tackle, the tackle height must now be below the sternum... I believe the intent is to carry this through the older grades in coming seasons too
Not sure if specifics, just what we were told at small Blacks course.
@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
Of interest, in u10 grade and below tackle, the tackle height must now be below the sternum... I believe the intent is to carry this through the older grades in coming seasons too
Not sure if specifics, just what we were told at small Blacks course.
How does that work if the ball carrier drops at the last moment like everyone is taught to do?
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@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@taniwharugby said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones I also dont like that it is called 'foul play'
To me, foul indicates dirty play
High tackles were pretty dirty in my day
Watch it at normal speed...
Certainly no malice.. Not deliberately head hunting..
Im guessing it's being implied that he was beaten, therefore shouldn't attempt the tackle.. As he wasn't going to be able to get low enough.
Not sure what you're arguing with here. Normal speed or not, it's penalty at best, Dickson was really low. "what's he supposed to do" is not a defence though
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@taniwharugby said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones I also dont like that it is called 'foul play'
To me, foul indicates dirty play
High tackles were pretty dirty in my day
Watch it at normal speed...
Certainly no malice.. Not deliberately head hunting..
Im guessing it's being implied that he was beaten, therefore shouldn't attempt the tackle.. As he wasn't going to be able to get low enough.
Not sure what you're arguing with here. Normal speed or not, it's penalty at best, Dickson was really low. "what's he supposed to do" is not a defence though
What I'm poorly articulating.. Is that in that situation players when beaten and out of position to make a safe tackle shouldn't attempt the tackle in the 1st place..
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@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
Of interest, in u10 grade and below tackle, the tackle height must now be below the sternum... I believe the intent is to carry this through the older grades in coming seasons too
Not sure if specifics, just what we were told at small Blacks course.
How does that work if the ball carrier drops at the last moment like everyone is taught to do?
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@Crazy-Horse If you are properly bent at the waist and someone drops into your shoulder you won't be penalized (if the laws are applied correctly).
That isn't what happened.
@Derpus said in Highlanders v Force:
if the laws are applied correctly
but that is part of the issue IMO, they arent, well not consistently at least
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@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
Of interest, in u10 grade and below tackle, the tackle height must now be below the sternum... I believe the intent is to carry this through the older grades in coming seasons too
Not sure if specifics, just what we were told at small Blacks course.
How does that work if the ball carrier drops at the last moment like everyone is taught to do?
@Crazy-Horse said in Highlanders v Force:
@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
Of interest, in u10 grade and below tackle, the tackle height must now be below the sternum... I believe the intent is to carry this through the older grades in coming seasons too
Not sure if specifics, just what we were told at small Blacks course.
How does that work if the ball carrier drops at the last moment like everyone is taught to do?
There were some interesting discussions about how we are to police the rucks.. With everyone bent over etc and how can you legally clean out someone jacking the ball..
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@Derpus said in Highlanders v Force:
if the laws are applied correctly
but that is part of the issue IMO, they arent, well not consistently at least
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@taniwharugby said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones I also dont like that it is called 'foul play'
To me, foul indicates dirty play
High tackles were pretty dirty in my day
Watch it at normal speed...
Certainly no malice.. Not deliberately head hunting..
Im guessing it's being implied that he was beaten, therefore shouldn't attempt the tackle.. As he wasn't going to be able to get low enough.
Not sure what you're arguing with here. Normal speed or not, it's penalty at best, Dickson was really low. "what's he supposed to do" is not a defence though
What I'm poorly articulating.. Is that in that situation players when beaten and out of position to make a safe tackle shouldn't attempt the tackle in the 1st place..
@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@taniwharugby said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones I also dont like that it is called 'foul play'
To me, foul indicates dirty play
High tackles were pretty dirty in my day
Watch it at normal speed...
Certainly no malice.. Not deliberately head hunting..
Im guessing it's being implied that he was beaten, therefore shouldn't attempt the tackle.. As he wasn't going to be able to get low enough.
Not sure what you're arguing with here. Normal speed or not, it's penalty at best, Dickson was really low. "what's he supposed to do" is not a defence though
What I'm poorly articulating.. Is that in that situation players when beaten and out of position to make a safe tackle shouldn't attempt the tackle in the 1st place..
Oh! It seemed you were saying the opposite. Agree wholeheartedly.
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@taniwharugby won't hear an argument from me. Reffing quality is fucking shite right now with guys like Pickeral and O'Keefe running around.
@Derpus said in Highlanders v Force:
Pickeral
I have tried so much harder this season to stop being so hard on the refs, but unfortunately, he has never been upto it, I still recall his debut game reffing Northland :angry_face:
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@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@taniwharugby said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones I also dont like that it is called 'foul play'
To me, foul indicates dirty play
High tackles were pretty dirty in my day
Watch it at normal speed...
Certainly no malice.. Not deliberately head hunting..
Im guessing it's being implied that he was beaten, therefore shouldn't attempt the tackle.. As he wasn't going to be able to get low enough.
Not sure what you're arguing with here. Normal speed or not, it's penalty at best, Dickson was really low. "what's he supposed to do" is not a defence though
What I'm poorly articulating.. Is that in that situation players when beaten and out of position to make a safe tackle shouldn't attempt the tackle in the 1st place..
Oh! It seemed you were saying the opposite. Agree wholeheartedly.
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@taniwharugby said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones I also dont like that it is called 'foul play'
To me, foul indicates dirty play
High tackles were pretty dirty in my day
Watch it at normal speed...
Certainly no malice.. Not deliberately head hunting..
Im guessing it's being implied that he was beaten, therefore shouldn't attempt the tackle.. As he wasn't going to be able to get low enough.
Not sure what you're arguing with here. Normal speed or not, it's penalty at best, Dickson was really low. "what's he supposed to do" is not a defence though
What I'm poorly articulating.. Is that in that situation players when beaten and out of position to make a safe tackle shouldn't attempt the tackle in the 1st place..
Oh! It seemed you were saying the opposite. Agree wholeheartedly.
4 beers deep sorry mate..
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@Derpus said in Highlanders v Force:
Pickeral
I have tried so much harder this season to stop being so hard on the refs, but unfortunately, he has never been upto it, I still recall his debut game reffing Northland :angry_face:
@taniwharugby said in Highlanders v Force:
@Derpus said in Highlanders v Force:
Pickeral
I have tried so much harder this season to stop being so hard on the refs, but unfortunately, he has never been upto it, I still recall his debut game reffing Northland :angry_face:
I find it impossible to not be critical of the officiating as it is... Not for a moment do I suggest it's easy....
Its simply a mess with the NZ refs in particular.. Inconsistent from one moment to the next...I would be interested to have more transparency from the referees during the week and actually let us in on how they are looking to interpretate different areas of the game etc..
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I haven't been following the thread, and I am a Highlanders fan.
But is anyone else worried about Aaron Smith being blatantly offside at a ruck in the lead up to the second try by the clan?
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@taniwharugby said in Highlanders v Force:
@Derpus said in Highlanders v Force:
Pickeral
I have tried so much harder this season to stop being so hard on the refs, but unfortunately, he has never been upto it, I still recall his debut game reffing Northland :angry_face:
I find it impossible to not be critical of the officiating as it is... Not for a moment do I suggest it's easy....
Its simply a mess with the NZ refs in particular.. Inconsistent from one moment to the next...I would be interested to have more transparency from the referees during the week and actually let us in on how they are looking to interpretate different areas of the game etc..
@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
I would be interested to have more transparency from the referees during the week and actually let us in on how they are looking to interpretate different areas of the game etc..
yeah unfortunately tseems like they are all but a secret society.
I assume they must have some ranking system they use that helps with match appointments, maybe they should be releasing this sort of information or at least more data (like Pickerell has the most resets)
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I haven't been following the thread, and I am a Highlanders fan.
But is anyone else worried about Aaron Smith being blatantly offside at a ruck in the lead up to the second try by the clan?
@Damo said in Highlanders v Force:
I haven't been following the thread, and I am a Highlanders fan.
But is anyone else worried about Aaron Smith being blatantly offside at a ruck in the lead up to the second try by the clan?
But to be honest I've given up on decent ref/TMO decisions, it's swings and roundabouts, I just treat it like the random bounce of an odd shaped ball
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@Damo said in Highlanders v Force:
I haven't been following the thread, and I am a Highlanders fan.
But is anyone else worried about Aaron Smith being blatantly offside at a ruck in the lead up to the second try by the clan?
Ozzies are
@Machpants said in Highlanders v Force:
@Damo said in Highlanders v Force:
I haven't been following the thread, and I am a Highlanders fan.
But is anyone else worried about Aaron Smith being blatantly offside at a ruck in the lead up to the second try by the clan?
Ozzies are
That's OK then. I don't know what the TMO protocols are these days but I would have been OK with that being looked at by the TMO if within 2 phases.
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@Machpants said in Highlanders v Force:
@Damo said in Highlanders v Force:
I haven't been following the thread, and I am a Highlanders fan.
But is anyone else worried about Aaron Smith being blatantly offside at a ruck in the lead up to the second try by the clan?
Ozzies are
That's OK then. I don't know what the TMO protocols are these days but I would have been OK with that being looked at by the TMO if within 2 phases.
@Damo said in Highlanders v Force:
@Machpants said in Highlanders v Force:
@Damo said in Highlanders v Force:
I haven't been following the thread, and I am a Highlanders fan.
But is anyone else worried about Aaron Smith being blatantly offside at a ruck in the lead up to the second try by the clan?
Ozzies are
That's OK then. I don't know what the TMO protocols are these days but I would have been OK with that being looked at by the TMO if within 2 phases.
I think 2 phases is not a thing any more.
