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    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @canefan said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Donsteppa said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    Whatever the ins and outs of the decision, my initial reaction was to be more worried about the June Test Series results than I was before...

    My skepticism has more to do with the fact I reckon the BCs are starting to decline after the recent glory years.

    It’s alleviated somewhat by remembering how shite England are though

    Replacing Rosco and later Timmy and Boult will be tough. And with Kane suspect injury wise we may be set for choppy waters. Having Conway back is great, and hopefully Kylo can dine out in English conditions after a down sophomore year

    We miss BJ too.

    Thanks for reminding me. He was critical to our success, King of the rearguard action

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    @canefan said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @canefan said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Donsteppa said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    Whatever the ins and outs of the decision, my initial reaction was to be more worried about the June Test Series results than I was before...

    My skepticism has more to do with the fact I reckon the BCs are starting to decline after the recent glory years.

    It’s alleviated somewhat by remembering how shite England are though

    Replacing Rosco and later Timmy and Boult will be tough. And with Kane suspect injury wise we may be set for choppy waters. Having Conway back is great, and hopefully Kylo can dine out in English conditions after a down sophomore year

    We miss BJ too.

    Thanks for reminding me. He was critical to our success, King of the rearguard action

    …..and unfortunately Blundell hasn’t quite replaced him.

    We were lucky having BMac and Watling, a third guy of that class in a row might be too much of an ask.

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    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @canefan said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @canefan said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Donsteppa said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    Whatever the ins and outs of the decision, my initial reaction was to be more worried about the June Test Series results than I was before...

    My skepticism has more to do with the fact I reckon the BCs are starting to decline after the recent glory years.

    It’s alleviated somewhat by remembering how shite England are though

    Replacing Rosco and later Timmy and Boult will be tough. And with Kane suspect injury wise we may be set for choppy waters. Having Conway back is great, and hopefully Kylo can dine out in English conditions after a down sophomore year

    We miss BJ too.

    Thanks for reminding me. He was critical to our success, King of the rearguard action

    …..and unfortunately Blundell hasn’t quite replaced him.

    We were lucky having BMac and Watling, a third guy of that class in a row might be too much of an ask.

    I was so hopeful. Blundell showed admirable toughness on that disastrous Aussie tour. But he seems decidedly flaky when compared to BJ

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    @canefan said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @canefan said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @canefan said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Donsteppa said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    Whatever the ins and outs of the decision, my initial reaction was to be more worried about the June Test Series results than I was before...

    My skepticism has more to do with the fact I reckon the BCs are starting to decline after the recent glory years.

    It’s alleviated somewhat by remembering how shite England are though

    Replacing Rosco and later Timmy and Boult will be tough. And with Kane suspect injury wise we may be set for choppy waters. Having Conway back is great, and hopefully Kylo can dine out in English conditions after a down sophomore year

    We miss BJ too.

    Thanks for reminding me. He was critical to our success, King of the rearguard action

    …..and unfortunately Blundell hasn’t quite replaced him.

    We were lucky having BMac and Watling, a third guy of that class in a row might be too much of an ask.

    I was so hopeful. Blundell showed admirable toughness on that disastrous Aussie tour. But he seems decidedly flaky when compared to BJ

    There’s still time for him to come right ( said MN5 clutching at straws )

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    The Senior Coaches role is not necessarily about coaching the skills, they have specialist batting, bowling and fielding coaches for that. Baz will bring a lot of positivity to the set up and the correct team culture and the analytical and match plan knowledge that England currently lack at Test level anyway

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    @Nevorian said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    The Senior Coaches role is not necessarily about coaching the skills, they have specialist batting, bowling and fielding coaches for that. Baz will bring a lot of positivity to the set up and the correct team culture and the analytical and match plan knowledge that England currently lack at Test level anyway

    Yeah, a coaches job is basically about man management/motivation skills, tactics etc... going to be a bit strange playing against the poms with McCullum as their coach, also another NZer as their captain.

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    Mark Reason has stuck his oar in.

    I suspect 10 years ago I might have agreed with him. These days I have made my peace with coaches going overseas and coaching against NZ teams.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/300590502/mark-reason-brendon-mccullum-is-surely-the-most-bizarre-coaching-appointment-in-cricket

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    @Damo said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    Mark Reason has stuck his oar in.

    I suspect 10 years ago I might have agreed with him. These days I have made my peace with coaches going overseas and coaching against NZ teams.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/300590502/mark-reason-brendon-mccullum-is-surely-the-most-bizarre-coaching-appointment-in-cricket

    The man is an utter troll shock journo

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    @Damo

    Reason is a dreadful sports journo. He was awful in the UK and to our shame we have allowed you guys to inherit him. Sorry.

    But as is usually the case with him there is a little tidbit that chimes with many. In that rubbish article I’d say it is the Roy Keane/Wayne Smith bit.

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    @NZbloke said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Nevorian said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    The Senior Coaches role is not necessarily about coaching the skills, they have specialist batting, bowling and fielding coaches for that. Baz will bring a lot of positivity to the set up and the correct team culture and the analytical and match plan knowledge that England currently lack at Test level anyway

    Yeah, a coaches job is basically about man management/motivation skills, tactics etc... going to be a bit strange playing against the poms with McCullum as their coach, also another NZer as their captain.

    "In cricket you really only need a coach to get the team from the hotel to the ground."

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    @Machpants said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Damo said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    Mark Reason has stuck his oar in.

    I suspect 10 years ago I might have agreed with him. These days I have made my peace with coaches going overseas and coaching against NZ teams.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/300590502/mark-reason-brendon-mccullum-is-surely-the-most-bizarre-coaching-appointment-in-cricket

    The man is an utter troll shock journo

    Yeah but he makes a good point. What experience does McCullum have ?

    I can only assume Chris Rattue is on leave? This article is very ‘him’

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    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Machpants said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Damo said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    Mark Reason has stuck his oar in.

    I suspect 10 years ago I might have agreed with him. These days I have made my peace with coaches going overseas and coaching against NZ teams.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/300590502/mark-reason-brendon-mccullum-is-surely-the-most-bizarre-coaching-appointment-in-cricket

    The man is an utter troll shock journo

    Yeah but he makes a good point. What experience does McCullum have ?

    I can only assume Chris Rattue is on leave? This article is very ‘him’

    Rattue works for the Herald.

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    @Damo said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Machpants said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Damo said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    Mark Reason has stuck his oar in.

    I suspect 10 years ago I might have agreed with him. These days I have made my peace with coaches going overseas and coaching against NZ teams.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/300590502/mark-reason-brendon-mccullum-is-surely-the-most-bizarre-coaching-appointment-in-cricket

    The man is an utter troll shock journo

    Yeah but he makes a good point. What experience does McCullum have ?

    I can only assume Chris Rattue is on leave? This article is very ‘him’

    Rattue works for the Herald.

    So choosing between them is like trying to pick which end of a piece of dog shit is cleanest to pick up then ?

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    @NZbloke said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Nevorian said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    The Senior Coaches role is not necessarily about coaching the skills, they have specialist batting, bowling and fielding coaches for that. Baz will bring a lot of positivity to the set up and the correct team culture and the analytical and match plan knowledge that England currently lack at Test level anyway

    Yeah, a coaches job is basically about man management/motivation skills, tactics etc... going to be a bit strange playing against the poms with McCullum as their coach, also another NZer as their captain.

    I don’t count him. He couldn’t look or sound more English if he tried and has lived there most of his life.

    South Africa have far more reason to gripe at us when you consider a few of our recent stars.

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    @Damo said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @NZbloke said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Nevorian said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    The Senior Coaches role is not necessarily about coaching the skills, they have specialist batting, bowling and fielding coaches for that. Baz will bring a lot of positivity to the set up and the correct team culture and the analytical and match plan knowledge that England currently lack at Test level anyway

    Yeah, a coaches job is basically about man management/motivation skills, tactics etc... going to be a bit strange playing against the poms with McCullum as their coach, also another NZer as their captain.

    "In cricket you really only need a coach to get the team from the hotel to the ground."

    If that was the case you'd only need a bus driver 😄

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    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @NZbloke said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Nevorian said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    The Senior Coaches role is not necessarily about coaching the skills, they have specialist batting, bowling and fielding coaches for that. Baz will bring a lot of positivity to the set up and the correct team culture and the analytical and match plan knowledge that England currently lack at Test level anyway

    Yeah, a coaches job is basically about man management/motivation skills, tactics etc... going to be a bit strange playing against the poms with McCullum as their coach, also another NZer as their captain.

    I don’t count him. He couldn’t look or sound more English if he tried and has lived there most of his life.

    South Africa have far more reason to gripe at us when you consider a few of our recent stars.

    He's still a NZer though.

    A fair few countries have had different nationalities playing for them over the years... can't think of any other country that's had a coach & captain from the same country playing for another country together.

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    @NZbloke said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @NZbloke said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Nevorian said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    The Senior Coaches role is not necessarily about coaching the skills, they have specialist batting, bowling and fielding coaches for that. Baz will bring a lot of positivity to the set up and the correct team culture and the analytical and match plan knowledge that England currently lack at Test level anyway

    Yeah, a coaches job is basically about man management/motivation skills, tactics etc... going to be a bit strange playing against the poms with McCullum as their coach, also another NZer as their captain.

    I don’t count him. He couldn’t look or sound more English if he tried and has lived there most of his life.

    South Africa have far more reason to gripe at us when you consider a few of our recent stars.

    He's still a NZer though.

    A fair few countries have had different nationalities playing for them over the years... can't think of any other country that's had a coach & captain from the same country playing for another country together.

    He moved to England as a kid. It’d be like SA trying to claim Andrew Merhtens

    But then again it is amusing in one sense that England have appointed a couple of colonials in such important positions. I wonder what the gin and tonic brigade think of that ?

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    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @NZbloke said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @NZbloke said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Nevorian said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    The Senior Coaches role is not necessarily about coaching the skills, they have specialist batting, bowling and fielding coaches for that. Baz will bring a lot of positivity to the set up and the correct team culture and the analytical and match plan knowledge that England currently lack at Test level anyway

    Yeah, a coaches job is basically about man management/motivation skills, tactics etc... going to be a bit strange playing against the poms with McCullum as their coach, also another NZer as their captain.

    I don’t count him. He couldn’t look or sound more English if he tried and has lived there most of his life.

    South Africa have far more reason to gripe at us when you consider a few of our recent stars.

    He's still a NZer though.

    A fair few countries have had different nationalities playing for them over the years... can't think of any other country that's had a coach & captain from the same country playing for another country together.

    He moved to England as a kid. It’d be like SA trying to claim Andrew Merhtens

    Aren't Merhtens' parents Kiwis who just happened to be in SA? Too lazy to look it up myself.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @NZbloke said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @NZbloke said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Nevorian said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    The Senior Coaches role is not necessarily about coaching the skills, they have specialist batting, bowling and fielding coaches for that. Baz will bring a lot of positivity to the set up and the correct team culture and the analytical and match plan knowledge that England currently lack at Test level anyway

    Yeah, a coaches job is basically about man management/motivation skills, tactics etc... going to be a bit strange playing against the poms with McCullum as their coach, also another NZer as their captain.

    I don’t count him. He couldn’t look or sound more English if he tried and has lived there most of his life.

    South Africa have far more reason to gripe at us when you consider a few of our recent stars.

    He's still a NZer though.

    A fair few countries have had different nationalities playing for them over the years... can't think of any other country that's had a coach & captain from the same country playing for another country together.

    He moved to England as a kid. It’d be like SA trying to claim Andrew Merhtens

    Aren't Merhtens' parents Kiwis who just happened to be in SA? Too lazy to look it up myself.

    Yeah that does ring a bell

    …..and Stokes moved at the age of 12 so I guess he did play here as a kid.

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    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Crazy-Horse said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @NZbloke said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @MN5 said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @NZbloke said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    @Nevorian said in B B McCullum: England Test Coach:

    The Senior Coaches role is not necessarily about coaching the skills, they have specialist batting, bowling and fielding coaches for that. Baz will bring a lot of positivity to the set up and the correct team culture and the analytical and match plan knowledge that England currently lack at Test level anyway

    Yeah, a coaches job is basically about man management/motivation skills, tactics etc... going to be a bit strange playing against the poms with McCullum as their coach, also another NZer as their captain.

    I don’t count him. He couldn’t look or sound more English if he tried and has lived there most of his life.

    South Africa have far more reason to gripe at us when you consider a few of our recent stars.

    He's still a NZer though.

    A fair few countries have had different nationalities playing for them over the years... can't think of any other country that's had a coach & captain from the same country playing for another country together.

    He moved to England as a kid. It’d be like SA trying to claim Andrew Merhtens

    Aren't Merhtens' parents Kiwis who just happened to be in SA? Too lazy to look it up myself.

    Yeah that does ring a bell

    …..and Stokes moved at the age of 12 so I guess he did play here as a kid.

    And obviously Stokes has Kiwi parents. I wouldn't call him a poach, but I still like to claim him as a Kiwi.

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