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EPL 2021 / 2022

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  • dogmeatD dogmeat

    @MajorRage Again can't really disagree.

    Hard to believe there are rumblings that Newcastle might dump Howe and go after a Manager more befitting of their status piston wristed gibbons

    Looking forward now to your pre-season write up.

    Next year promises to be a cracker although it's hard to see anyone challenging the dual hegemony, there are any number of potential redemption / rejuvenation stories. Plus a host of can they keep it up type sub-plots. Be interesting to see the book on first Managerial casualty of the year.

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    @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

    @MajorRage Again can't really disagree.

    Hard to believe there are rumblings that Newcastle might dump Howe and go after a Manager more befitting of their status piston wristed gibbons

    Looking forward now to your pre-season write up.

    Next year promises to be a cracker although it's hard to see anyone challenging the dual hegemony, there are any number of potential redemption / rejuvenation stories. Plus a host of can they keep it up type sub-plots. Be interesting to see the book on first Managerial casualty of the year.

    What???!! He is one of the brightest young managers in the UK, seems to be instilling spirit in the side. That will be ridiculous if they do that

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    • MajorPomM MajorPom

      Was just looking at I wrote again. Man I'm mixed up with Managers. I should clarify:

      Guardiola, Klopp, Howe, Frank could all be written as the top! So here's a slightly deeper dive on this. Yes, I am avoiding doing work

      Guardiola - I think he's hugely influential on pitch as well as on the management style. Thus, he gets the results, and the moments, that ultimately won the league. Yes, this is the same style which saw them bundled out, again, in the Champs League, but it just seems to work in the EPL.

      Klopp - I'd probably more call him the overall manager of the year across all the EPL clubs. Just not necessarily in the league. And not through any fault of his own. You cannot deny his record this year, gunning for 4 trophies right up until the last day, and still possible to take 3. Love or hate Liverpool, you have to have absolute maximum respect for what he's done to that club.

      Frank - Brentford were fantastic this season and worthy of the plaudits. And Thomas Frank has been core to that. I do fear for them a bit though with second season syndrome. IT's not uncommon to bounce up to the PL, have a decent mid table season then go back down. I can't put him up with Guardiola & Klopp just yet though. Different level.

      Howe - Newcastle were completely fucked. Completely. Kind of like United right now. Couldn't buy a point, looked disinterested and were a complete shambles. He literally turned the club on its head. It was phenomenal. Which is why he gets my overall award, ahead of the others. Does this mean he should rightfully be the Manager of the year? Well, no. Mainly because he's been more than that. The jury is certainly out on the future, especially with cash and the upcoming transfer season, he could really fuck this up buying the wrong players. Only time will tell.

      But for his last 6 months, he cannot be faulted. Thus, he's the overall EPL person of the year for me.

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      @MajorRage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

      Guardiola - I think he's hugely influential on pitch as well as on the management style. Thus, he gets the results, and the moments, that ultimately won the league. Yes, this is the same style which saw them bundled out, again, in the Champs League, but it just seems to work in the EPL

      people are desperate to give this guy shit because his crime is to manage the top clubs

      he has built city in to a relentless machine. Every player in the squad fits the system, and they just win, a lot. They are also incredibly good at unlocking "park the bus" defences.

      City aren't unbeatable, but over 38 games they are a relentless point-scoring machine.

      The Champs league is a little weirder, and maybe that system of relentless control that dominates leagues makes the pointy end of the Champs league harder for them? Great players and moments of inspiration tend to win finals. City aren't built like that.
      Pure armchair speculation of course.

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        Football fans upset at the long non-football months ahead.

        PREMIER LEAGUE ONLY.

        Name the top scorers in the EPL by age 23. No cheating. Complete this list - just state one name and I'll add it to the list in the position.

        1 93
        2 91
        3 71
        4 60
        5 54
        6 49
        6 49
        8 46
        8 46
        10 42
        10 42

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        • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

          Football fans upset at the long non-football months ahead.

          PREMIER LEAGUE ONLY.

          Name the top scorers in the EPL by age 23. No cheating. Complete this list - just state one name and I'll add it to the list in the position.

          1 93
          2 91
          3 71
          4 60
          5 54
          6 49
          6 49
          8 46
          8 46
          10 42
          10 42

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          @KiwiPie Alan Shearer when he was at Blackburn Rovers?

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @KiwiPie Alan Shearer when he was at Blackburn Rovers?

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            @antipodean said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

            @KiwiPie Alan Shearer when he was at Blackburn Rovers?

            He would have been close but he joined Blackburn at 22 and his goals for Southampton before that were pre EPL. My estimate is 39 top level goals by 23. Estimate 244 EPL goals after 23.

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              Rooney would be near the top.

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                jermain defoe would have scored a few young..old man when finally came to Bournemouth but wouldn't be surprised to see him there

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                  Robbie Fowler
                  Michael Owen

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    Rooney would be near the top.

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                    @Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                    Rooney would be near the top.

                    yep Rooney must be near the top I suspect Harry Kane somewhere on the list as well

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                      1 Fowler 93
                      2 Owen 91
                      3 Rooney 71
                      4 60
                      5 54
                      6 Kane 49
                      6 49
                      8 46
                      8 46
                      10 42
                      10 42

                      Defoe was the next on the list with 41. It gets harder from here ....

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                        Sterling?

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          Sterling?

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                          @Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                          Sterling?

                          13th with 40.

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                            Ronaldo

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                              Jamie Vardy must have smacked in a fair whack for Leicester City but were they before or after he turned 23?

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                                1 Fowler 93
                                2 Owen 91
                                3 Rooney 71
                                4 60
                                5 Ronaldo 54
                                6 Kane 49
                                6 49
                                8 46
                                8 46
                                10 42
                                10 42

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                                • HigginsH Higgins

                                  Jamie Vardy must have smacked in a fair whack for Leicester City but were they before or after he turned 23?

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                                  @Higgins said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                  Jamie Vardy must have smacked in a fair whack for Leicester City but were they before or after he turned 23?

                                  Zero. He didn't even get out of non-league until he was 25 and was 27 when he first played in the EPL. Crazy number of goals since then.

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                                  • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                                    @Higgins said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                    Jamie Vardy must have smacked in a fair whack for Leicester City but were they before or after he turned 23?

                                    Zero. He didn't even get out of non-league until he was 25 and was 27 when he first played in the EPL. Crazy number of goals since then.

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                                    @KiwiPie Ok, what about Gareth Bale then?

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                                    • HigginsH Higgins

                                      @KiwiPie Ok, what about Gareth Bale then?

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                                      @Higgins said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                      @KiwiPie Ok, what about Gareth Bale then?

                                      Not all that many. Was already 23 before he started banging in goals for Spurs

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                                        @KiwiPie Steven Gerrrad and Frank Lampard?

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                                          Probably spent a but too long injured but what about Daniel Sturridge?

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