NRL 2022
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@bayimports said in NRL 2022:
@bayimports we are in desperate need for a change up. Doing what we have been doing, getting retread NRL coaches like Elliot, Kearney and Brown isn't working. The boys aren't responding and we don't seem to know how we want to play. I don't want to sound like a broken record, sign up the Walker brothers and see what they can do with our boys. Whether we win or lose, at least it should be more exciting to watch than the current shower of shit
There are not too many decent coaches that could change a culture regardless, but for me this would be one pair I would consider. But it would be a big change and need someone ready to take a risk. Is a guy who gets into fights with Matt Lodge, that type of person? I don't know.
i heard the Walker boys aren't even in football any more. the ship has sailed.
@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:
@bayimports said in NRL 2022:
@bayimports we are in desperate need for a change up. Doing what we have been doing, getting retread NRL coaches like Elliot, Kearney and Brown isn't working. The boys aren't responding and we don't seem to know how we want to play. I don't want to sound like a broken record, sign up the Walker brothers and see what they can do with our boys. Whether we win or lose, at least it should be more exciting to watch than the current shower of shit
There are not too many decent coaches that could change a culture regardless, but for me this would be one pair I would consider. But it would be a big change and need someone ready to take a risk. Is a guy who gets into fights with Matt Lodge, that type of person? I don't know.
i heard the Walker boys aren't even in football any more. the ship has sailed.
I heard they just haven't had the right deal. I heard that they interviewed last time we were looking, only for Robinson to hand the job to Brown. Hopefully he has learned a lesson after that. We are desperate, we can't get much lower. Give them a few years if they want to come, they can't do any worse
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check out this disgusting comment from the senile old drunk Rothfield
“I think technically and tactically Browny is as sharp as any coach in rugby league but being a coach of an NRL club is a lot more than that,” Rothfield said.
“It’s about managing players, managing salary caps, taking into account the culture issues that come with the Maori boys at the Warriors.
“In fact they’ve been away from home for so long and managing all that.
“I think Browny’s going to fight to keep that job"
First, lets stick up for Browny because he's mates with the media guys. Then the "Maori boys at the warriors" holy fuck dude, that's.. i mean... holy shit. That's fucked up on a number levels.
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check out this disgusting comment from the senile old drunk Rothfield
“I think technically and tactically Browny is as sharp as any coach in rugby league but being a coach of an NRL club is a lot more than that,” Rothfield said.
“It’s about managing players, managing salary caps, taking into account the culture issues that come with the Maori boys at the Warriors.
“In fact they’ve been away from home for so long and managing all that.
“I think Browny’s going to fight to keep that job"
First, lets stick up for Browny because he's mates with the media guys. Then the "Maori boys at the warriors" holy fuck dude, that's.. i mean... holy shit. That's fucked up on a number levels.
@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:
check out this disgusting comment from the senile old drunk Rothfield
“I think technically and tactically Browny is as sharp as any coach in rugby league but being a coach of an NRL club is a lot more than that,” Rothfield said.
“It’s about managing players, managing salary caps, taking into account the culture issues that come with the Maori boys at the Warriors.
“In fact they’ve been away from home for so long and managing all that.
“I think Browny’s going to fight to keep that job"
First, lets stick up for Browny because he's mates with the media guys. Then the "Maori boys at the warriors" holy fuck dude, that's.. i mean... holy shit. That's fucked up on a number levels.
Shows how some still view us
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check out this disgusting comment from the senile old drunk Rothfield
“I think technically and tactically Browny is as sharp as any coach in rugby league but being a coach of an NRL club is a lot more than that,” Rothfield said.
“It’s about managing players, managing salary caps, taking into account the culture issues that come with the Maori boys at the Warriors.
“In fact they’ve been away from home for so long and managing all that.
“I think Browny’s going to fight to keep that job"
First, lets stick up for Browny because he's mates with the media guys. Then the "Maori boys at the warriors" holy fuck dude, that's.. i mean... holy shit. That's fucked up on a number levels.
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check out this disgusting comment from the senile old drunk Rothfield
“I think technically and tactically Browny is as sharp as any coach in rugby league but being a coach of an NRL club is a lot more than that,” Rothfield said.
“It’s about managing players, managing salary caps, taking into account the culture issues that come with the Maori boys at the Warriors.
“In fact they’ve been away from home for so long and managing all that.
“I think Browny’s going to fight to keep that job"
First, lets stick up for Browny because he's mates with the media guys. Then the "Maori boys at the warriors" holy fuck dude, that's.. i mean... holy shit. That's fucked up on a number levels.
@mariner4life he shouldn't be in his job either.. how he still has one is beyond me
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well maybe gone earlier than we thought
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Lol I'm not moving to Auckland to get sacked
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well maybe gone earlier than we thought
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Lol I'm not moving to Auckland to get sacked
@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:
Lol I'm not moving to Auckland to get sacked
well it seems Mark Robinson may even have him released as early as tomorrow with Stacy Jones as interim coach
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:
Lol I'm not moving to Auckland to get sacked
well it seems Mark Robinson may even have him released as early as tomorrow with Stacy Jones as interim coach
@bayimports said in NRL 2022:
@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:
Lol I'm not moving to Auckland to get sacked
well it seems Mark Robinson may even have him released as early as tomorrow with Stacy Jones as interim coach
Weeeelllll shit
I doubt this is an upgrade
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Robinson must have money to throw around, as I assume he'd have to pay out Brown too.
Yep that short fuse in action again and i am sure he will probably quote himself as an alpha male again in the process.
Hopefully he uses some of that money to correct the ship rather than make payoffs
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Robinson must have money to throw around, as I assume he'd have to pay out Brown too.
Yep that short fuse in action again and i am sure he will probably quote himself as an alpha male again in the process.
Hopefully he uses some of that money to correct the ship rather than make payoffs
@bayimports said in NRL 2022:
Robinson must have money to throw around, as I assume he'd have to pay out Brown too.
Yep that short fuse in action again and i am sure he will probably quote himself as an alpha male again in the process.
Hopefully he uses some of that money to correct the ship rather than make payoffs
The limited amount I have seen him on the telly, I don't doubt his passion for rugby league and the Warriors. But he has to hire good people to run the club and then step the fuck out of the way to let them do the job
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I'm still wondering about the nuke it from orbit and start again approach. For all the various flaws in the coach hiring process over the years, I find myself wondering if even a duo of Bennett and Bellamy could turn the Warriors around at this stage...
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I've been a diehard Warriors supporter since the beginning but it's hard to think of a worse time for the club than right now.
The owner seems like a real ballbag - why is he even in the pub arguing with the players? Then we hamstring the club's salary cap by releasing our best prop.
We fired Kearney, who was faring okay, given the situation he found himself in and took on a bum of a coach with a 20 something percent win record who, unsurprisingly, turned out to be a bum and ended up with a similar win percentage.
Jazz Tevaga is hearty as hell, and arguably tries the hardest week in, week out. But he's 98kg and is our starting prop. I'm picking there isn't a lighter prop in the comp this year, or in recent years. How are our forwards meant to dominate when they're 15 - 20kg light?
Stacey Jones is a club legend, but that doesn't translate to being a good coach. I'd prefer we cleaned the current regime out and got the Walker brothers in. We need to take a chance, because what we've been doing hasn't worked in the past.
Even more frustrating from an NRL-wide perspective is that contracts don't appear to be worth the paper they're written on. Guys signing with a New Zealand club and then saying that they're not willing to relocate to NZ and being granted immediate releases. Payne Haas being signed on potential by the Broncos for less than he's currently worth and now trying to renegotiate his contract halfway through because he thinks he's being underpaid. The contract/agent system is well and truly broken.
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I've been a diehard Warriors supporter since the beginning but it's hard to think of a worse time for the club than right now.
The owner seems like a real ballbag - why is he even in the pub arguing with the players? Then we hamstring the club's salary cap by releasing our best prop.
We fired Kearney, who was faring okay, given the situation he found himself in and took on a bum of a coach with a 20 something percent win record who, unsurprisingly, turned out to be a bum and ended up with a similar win percentage.
Jazz Tevaga is hearty as hell, and arguably tries the hardest week in, week out. But he's 98kg and is our starting prop. I'm picking there isn't a lighter prop in the comp this year, or in recent years. How are our forwards meant to dominate when they're 15 - 20kg light?
Stacey Jones is a club legend, but that doesn't translate to being a good coach. I'd prefer we cleaned the current regime out and got the Walker brothers in. We need to take a chance, because what we've been doing hasn't worked in the past.
Even more frustrating from an NRL-wide perspective is that contracts don't appear to be worth the paper they're written on. Guys signing with a New Zealand club and then saying that they're not willing to relocate to NZ and being granted immediate releases. Payne Haas being signed on potential by the Broncos for less than he's currently worth and now trying to renegotiate his contract halfway through because he thinks he's being underpaid. The contract/agent system is well and truly broken.
@aucklandwarlord If this departure happens Stacey will only be caretaker.
Its disappointing the new owner appears to be a drop kick and lets his emotions get in the way of making decisions. I agree 100% In what is an incredibly tough period for the club he has ruined our salary cap and got rid of our best prop in the process.
Who should coach the warriors? that is a tough one. It would have to be someone who would want to take on a massive challenge. Personally I don't think Kearney wasn't doing enough either. The Melbourne approach only works when the players have the work ethic to take on responsibility for themselves and fitness and Bellamy also wields a decent threat. That did not happen under Kearney, he was too nice.
Do they take on a completely new model that doesnt focus on defence aka the Walkers? Well possibly yes, we can't defend now, it would mean we need a functioning attack though, which we also don't have.
I know there are a few coaches out there that could be seen as the next big thing, but do they want to come to NZ? Chances are no. I don't see Ciraldo for example leaving Sydney. I hope they don't go Woolf, Super League coaches always fail. That leaves 2 ex NRL coaches available in Green and Flannagan.
My personal choice won't be popular and forget that he might help them with a special milkshake or two, but for me the best choice if he wants it for me is Flannagan. He is defence focused, openly critical of SJ not running, won't take sh*t from players and he turned the Sharks around into a winning team. He may not even want it though.
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@aucklandwarlord If this departure happens Stacey will only be caretaker.
Its disappointing the new owner appears to be a drop kick and lets his emotions get in the way of making decisions. I agree 100% In what is an incredibly tough period for the club he has ruined our salary cap and got rid of our best prop in the process.
Who should coach the warriors? that is a tough one. It would have to be someone who would want to take on a massive challenge. Personally I don't think Kearney wasn't doing enough either. The Melbourne approach only works when the players have the work ethic to take on responsibility for themselves and fitness and Bellamy also wields a decent threat. That did not happen under Kearney, he was too nice.
Do they take on a completely new model that doesnt focus on defence aka the Walkers? Well possibly yes, we can't defend now, it would mean we need a functioning attack though, which we also don't have.
I know there are a few coaches out there that could be seen as the next big thing, but do they want to come to NZ? Chances are no. I don't see Ciraldo for example leaving Sydney. I hope they don't go Woolf, Super League coaches always fail. That leaves 2 ex NRL coaches available in Green and Flannagan.
My personal choice won't be popular and forget that he might help them with a special milkshake or two, but for me the best choice if he wants it for me is Flannagan. He is defence focused, openly critical of SJ not running, won't take sh*t from players and he turned the Sharks around into a winning team. He may not even want it though.
@bayimports said in NRL 2022:
My personal choice won't be popular and forget that he might help them with a special milkshake or two, but for me the best choice if he wants it for me is Flannagan. He is defence focused, openly critical of SJ not running, won't take sh*t from players and he turned the Sharks around into a winning team. He may not even want it though.
i would fucking hate it, but i think you're right. At least he was fired for being a bit of a fluffybunny, and not for just being shithouse. Sticking with Cronulla i thought Morris was doing a good job with them but didn't get the gig.
We will need someone who is hungry as fuck to prove themselves. Ciraldo is not coming because he's already been anointed as the next assistant to get a big gig. He doesn't need to do anything but wait for the right job. So you either need an assistant not on the radar, or a NSW/QCup coach eager to have a go.
What it does appear to need is someone who is a bit of a hard fluffybunny, as the personal standards have appeared shithouse for years. The Warriors boys have always sulked when they get pushed too hard, and then they agitate for someone a bit softer. And so you get a decade outside the finals.
Find someone with a fucking plan, and then step back and let them build it. Because we can't go through all of this again.
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I've been a diehard Warriors supporter since the beginning but it's hard to think of a worse time for the club than right now.
The owner seems like a real ballbag - why is he even in the pub arguing with the players? Then we hamstring the club's salary cap by releasing our best prop.
We fired Kearney, who was faring okay, given the situation he found himself in and took on a bum of a coach with a 20 something percent win record who, unsurprisingly, turned out to be a bum and ended up with a similar win percentage.
Jazz Tevaga is hearty as hell, and arguably tries the hardest week in, week out. But he's 98kg and is our starting prop. I'm picking there isn't a lighter prop in the comp this year, or in recent years. How are our forwards meant to dominate when they're 15 - 20kg light?
Stacey Jones is a club legend, but that doesn't translate to being a good coach. I'd prefer we cleaned the current regime out and got the Walker brothers in. We need to take a chance, because what we've been doing hasn't worked in the past.
Even more frustrating from an NRL-wide perspective is that contracts don't appear to be worth the paper they're written on. Guys signing with a New Zealand club and then saying that they're not willing to relocate to NZ and being granted immediate releases. Payne Haas being signed on potential by the Broncos for less than he's currently worth and now trying to renegotiate his contract halfway through because he thinks he's being underpaid. The contract/agent system is well and truly broken.
@aucklandwarlord can't agree on Kearney, he was so very ordinary and needed to go, probably a lot earlier.
Jazz gone stitched up being played at prop. You're right he tries really hard, but him being penned in to the 17 every week shows just how limited our roster is.
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It's official, he's gone
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/nrl-under-fire-warriors-coach-nathan-brown-quits-club/DVMJHJIA3VGK3R3A7Y7I2FDIAY/In light of the precedent set a short while ago when the Warriors had to pay out the remainder of a Matt Lodge's contract then they must insist that Mr. Brown recompense them for the length of period that he was still under contract for but elected to not fulfill. If not then damn well sue him for breach of contract.
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I've been a diehard Warriors supporter since the beginning but it's hard to think of a worse time for the club than right now.
The owner seems like a real ballbag - why is he even in the pub arguing with the players? Then we hamstring the club's salary cap by releasing our best prop.
We fired Kearney, who was faring okay, given the situation he found himself in and took on a bum of a coach with a 20 something percent win record who, unsurprisingly, turned out to be a bum and ended up with a similar win percentage.
Jazz Tevaga is hearty as hell, and arguably tries the hardest week in, week out. But he's 98kg and is our starting prop. I'm picking there isn't a lighter prop in the comp this year, or in recent years. How are our forwards meant to dominate when they're 15 - 20kg light?
Stacey Jones is a club legend, but that doesn't translate to being a good coach. I'd prefer we cleaned the current regime out and got the Walker brothers in. We need to take a chance, because what we've been doing hasn't worked in the past.
Even more frustrating from an NRL-wide perspective is that contracts don't appear to be worth the paper they're written on. Guys signing with a New Zealand club and then saying that they're not willing to relocate to NZ and being granted immediate releases. Payne Haas being signed on potential by the Broncos for less than he's currently worth and now trying to renegotiate his contract halfway through because he thinks he's being underpaid. The contract/agent system is well and truly broken.
@aucklandwarlord said in NRL 2022:
The owner seems like a real ballbag - why is he even in the pub arguing with the players? Then we hamstring the club's salary cap by releasing our best prop.
I still can't believe Robinson (and George) did this. Robinson is supposedly a successful businessman but why didn't they call Lodge's bluff. He has been vocal in not wanting to move to NZ, so would likely have not taken up his option for 2023. Let's see who really was the alpha male and had the balls.
I am assuming if the player asks for a release the conditions for the salary cap are different.
