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    TV comms say 284 highest successful chase at Trent Bridge.

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    @Catogrande said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @TeWaio

    TV comms say 284 highest successful chase at Trent Bridge.

    No chance. Final 3 wickets for 20 max then poms to clean up early after tea.

    Only we could score 550 odd and lose.

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    So Latham now with scores of 1, 14, 26, and 4 so far in the series.

    I wonder if Jamieson will bat tonight if needed.

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    @MajorRage said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @Catogrande said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @TeWaio

    TV comms say 284 highest successful chase at Trent Bridge.

    No chance. Final 3 wickets for 20 max then poms to clean up early after tea.

    Only we could score 550 odd and lose.

    And only we could have our foot on the throat, with the game all but won and then implode in the space of five overs 🤷‍♂️

    To be honest, I would have said a draw was by far the most likely outcome but McCullum and Stokes makes that a little less likely. The first hour will likely determine things.

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    @Catogrande said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @MajorRage said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @Catogrande said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @TeWaio

    TV comms say 284 highest successful chase at Trent Bridge.

    No chance. Final 3 wickets for 20 max then poms to clean up early after tea.

    Only we could score 550 odd and lose.

    And only we could have our foot on the throat, with the game all but won and then implode in the space of five overs 🤷‍♂️

    To be honest, I would have said a draw was by far the most likely outcome but McCullum and Stokes makes that a little less likely. The first hour will likely determine things.

    Yeah, if we can bat through the first hour or so of the morning session we should be able to get a draw out of it - really disappointed how poorly we've performed in these first two tests... haven't put enough good batting partnerships together, also haven't bowled well enough in pairs to keep the pressure on them.

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    #328

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    Day 4 - Blackcaps lead by 238 runs with 3 wickets remaining.

    Blackcaps - 553/10 (145.3) & 224/7 (69)
    England - 539/10 (128.2)

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    English view: Black Caps 'frazzled, anxious' with test on knife-edge

    ...
    “The pitch is playing well, Kyle Jamieson will not be fit to bowl and, psychologically, England must feel as if they have the upper hand, having hauled themselves back into contention, having conceded such a huge first innings total (off 553).”

    That England almost managed to match that total, being dismissed for 539, spoke volumes about the resilience in Stokes’ side and their ability to instantly throw the pressure back on the Black Caps as the tourists set about their second innings.

    “Tom Latham’s brain might have been a bit frazzled after a lengthy period in the field. In any event, Latham’s decision to leave a ball from Anderson that crashed into his middle and off stump in the first over of New Zealand’s second innings was an early sign of uncertainty and an unduly generous way to gift Jimmy Anderson a 650th test wicket, a remarkable statistic for a fast bowler.”
    ...

    One thing is for sure, if the Black Caps have any chance of victory, then Southee and Henry can't bowl anywhere near as many hittable pies in the fourth innings. Could be a big night for Michael Bracewell.

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    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    English view: Black Caps 'frazzled, anxious' with test on knife-edge

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    “The pitch is playing well, Kyle Jamieson will not be fit to bowl and, psychologically, England must feel as if they have the upper hand, having hauled themselves back into contention, having conceded such a huge first innings total (off 553).”

    That England almost managed to match that total, being dismissed for 539, spoke volumes about the resilience in Stokes’ side and their ability to instantly throw the pressure back on the Black Caps as the tourists set about their second innings.

    “Tom Latham’s brain might have been a bit frazzled after a lengthy period in the field. In any event, Latham’s decision to leave a ball from Anderson that crashed into his middle and off stump in the first over of New Zealand’s second innings was an early sign of uncertainty and an unduly generous way to gift Jimmy Anderson a 650th test wicket, a remarkable statistic for a fast bowler.”
    ...

    One thing is for sure, if the Black Caps have any chance of victory, then Southee and Henry can't bowl anywhere near as many hittable pies in the fourth innings. Could be a big night for Michael Bracewell.

    Neil Wagner will be hugely influential as he has been so many times before, oh wait..... 😠

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    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    English view: Black Caps 'frazzled, anxious' with test on knife-edge

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    “The pitch is playing well, Kyle Jamieson will not be fit to bowl and, psychologically, England must feel as if they have the upper hand, having hauled themselves back into contention, having conceded such a huge first innings total (off 553).”

    That England almost managed to match that total, being dismissed for 539, spoke volumes about the resilience in Stokes’ side and their ability to instantly throw the pressure back on the Black Caps as the tourists set about their second innings.

    “Tom Latham’s brain might have been a bit frazzled after a lengthy period in the field. In any event, Latham’s decision to leave a ball from Anderson that crashed into his middle and off stump in the first over of New Zealand’s second innings was an early sign of uncertainty and an unduly generous way to gift Jimmy Anderson a 650th test wicket, a remarkable statistic for a fast bowler.”
    ...

    One thing is for sure, if the Black Caps have any chance of victory, then Southee and Henry can't bowl anywhere near as many hittable pies in the fourth innings. Could be a big night for Michael Bracewell.

    The same guy who’s taken 27 first class wickets in 96 games ?

    Bring back Mark Craig or Mitchell Santner

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    Stats nerd time……

    With a pretty ordinary return in this test Henry Nicholls once again drops under 40 in terms of career averages…..or in MN5s less than expert measuring yardstick he goes from “very good” to “good”. I’m not too worried though as this has happened before and a big hundred gets him back so we should be sweet by the third test.

    Tom Latham is currently 40.59 so he might be in danger too and he’s looking particularly scratchy. He’s certainly living up to his minnow bashing reputation on this tour so far.

    Blundell shoots up to 37.46 which is Watlingesque, I’m more than happy for that sort of return for a specialist keeper and I’m thrilled he’s had a good tour.

    Johns son has exceeded all expectations. Gosh we’d be in trouble without his efforts.

    Conway and Young have both been ok but one of them scoring much bigger would not have gone amiss.

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    @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    English view: Black Caps 'frazzled, anxious' with test on knife-edge

    ...
    “The pitch is playing well, Kyle Jamieson will not be fit to bowl and, psychologically, England must feel as if they have the upper hand, having hauled themselves back into contention, having conceded such a huge first innings total (off 553).”

    That England almost managed to match that total, being dismissed for 539, spoke volumes about the resilience in Stokes’ side and their ability to instantly throw the pressure back on the Black Caps as the tourists set about their second innings.

    “Tom Latham’s brain might have been a bit frazzled after a lengthy period in the field. In any event, Latham’s decision to leave a ball from Anderson that crashed into his middle and off stump in the first over of New Zealand’s second innings was an early sign of uncertainty and an unduly generous way to gift Jimmy Anderson a 650th test wicket, a remarkable statistic for a fast bowler.”
    ...

    One thing is for sure, if the Black Caps have any chance of victory, then Southee and Henry can't bowl anywhere near as many hittable pies in the fourth innings. Could be a big night for Michael Bracewell.

    The same guy who’s taken 27 first class wickets in 96 games ?

    Bring back Mark Craig or Mitchell Santner

    The same guy who took more wickets in the first innings than Tim Southee, Matt Henry, and Kyle Jamieson combined? 🙂

    We probably need two bowlers to fire in tandem to win/save this one, so I'll clutch at any straw right now. Short of Matt Henry getting concussed while batting and Neil Wagner being subbed in...

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    @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    English view: Black Caps 'frazzled, anxious' with test on knife-edge

    ...
    “The pitch is playing well, Kyle Jamieson will not be fit to bowl and, psychologically, England must feel as if they have the upper hand, having hauled themselves back into contention, having conceded such a huge first innings total (off 553).”

    That England almost managed to match that total, being dismissed for 539, spoke volumes about the resilience in Stokes’ side and their ability to instantly throw the pressure back on the Black Caps as the tourists set about their second innings.

    “Tom Latham’s brain might have been a bit frazzled after a lengthy period in the field. In any event, Latham’s decision to leave a ball from Anderson that crashed into his middle and off stump in the first over of New Zealand’s second innings was an early sign of uncertainty and an unduly generous way to gift Jimmy Anderson a 650th test wicket, a remarkable statistic for a fast bowler.”
    ...

    One thing is for sure, if the Black Caps have any chance of victory, then Southee and Henry can't bowl anywhere near as many hittable pies in the fourth innings. Could be a big night for Michael Bracewell.

    The same guy who’s taken 27 first class wickets in 96 games ?

    Bring back Mark Craig or Mitchell Santner

    Considering he has only started regularly bowling in the last two seasons, that statement probably isn't fair.

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    @SouthernMann said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    English view: Black Caps 'frazzled, anxious' with test on knife-edge

    ...
    “The pitch is playing well, Kyle Jamieson will not be fit to bowl and, psychologically, England must feel as if they have the upper hand, having hauled themselves back into contention, having conceded such a huge first innings total (off 553).”

    That England almost managed to match that total, being dismissed for 539, spoke volumes about the resilience in Stokes’ side and their ability to instantly throw the pressure back on the Black Caps as the tourists set about their second innings.

    “Tom Latham’s brain might have been a bit frazzled after a lengthy period in the field. In any event, Latham’s decision to leave a ball from Anderson that crashed into his middle and off stump in the first over of New Zealand’s second innings was an early sign of uncertainty and an unduly generous way to gift Jimmy Anderson a 650th test wicket, a remarkable statistic for a fast bowler.”
    ...

    One thing is for sure, if the Black Caps have any chance of victory, then Southee and Henry can't bowl anywhere near as many hittable pies in the fourth innings. Could be a big night for Michael Bracewell.

    The same guy who’s taken 27 first class wickets in 96 games ?

    Bring back Mark Craig or Mitchell Santner

    Considering he has only started regularly bowling in the last two seasons, that statement probably isn't fair.

    27 wickets is still fuck all over two seasons

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    @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @SouthernMann said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    English view: Black Caps 'frazzled, anxious' with test on knife-edge

    ...
    “The pitch is playing well, Kyle Jamieson will not be fit to bowl and, psychologically, England must feel as if they have the upper hand, having hauled themselves back into contention, having conceded such a huge first innings total (off 553).”

    That England almost managed to match that total, being dismissed for 539, spoke volumes about the resilience in Stokes’ side and their ability to instantly throw the pressure back on the Black Caps as the tourists set about their second innings.

    “Tom Latham’s brain might have been a bit frazzled after a lengthy period in the field. In any event, Latham’s decision to leave a ball from Anderson that crashed into his middle and off stump in the first over of New Zealand’s second innings was an early sign of uncertainty and an unduly generous way to gift Jimmy Anderson a 650th test wicket, a remarkable statistic for a fast bowler.”
    ...

    One thing is for sure, if the Black Caps have any chance of victory, then Southee and Henry can't bowl anywhere near as many hittable pies in the fourth innings. Could be a big night for Michael Bracewell.

    The same guy who’s taken 27 first class wickets in 96 games ?

    Bring back Mark Craig or Mitchell Santner

    Considering he has only started regularly bowling in the last two seasons, that statement probably isn't fair.

    27 wickets is still fuck all over two seasons

    Were those seasons covid affected?

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    Ravindra made it to 217 for Durham in the end.

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    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    Ravindra made it to 217 for Durham in the end.

    Did he get a county contract? Or do they arrange a fill in game for a guy on the edge of the squad?

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    @canefan I had read that it may just be for one game, but perhaps it could yet be extended depending on the needs of the Black Caps and of Durham:

    The 22-year-old allrounder has been released from New Zealand’s touring party for the fixture and will provide cover for Keegan Petersen. The South African batter left Durham for personal reasons earlier this month.

    Rachin Ravindra joins Durham for Worcestershire clash

    Rachin Ravindra joins Durham for Worcestershire clash

    The allrounder, who has scored 1,886 runs and taken 34 wickets in 35 first-class appearances, has been released from New Zealand's touring party for the fixture

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    @canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @SouthernMann said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    English view: Black Caps 'frazzled, anxious' with test on knife-edge

    ...
    “The pitch is playing well, Kyle Jamieson will not be fit to bowl and, psychologically, England must feel as if they have the upper hand, having hauled themselves back into contention, having conceded such a huge first innings total (off 553).”

    That England almost managed to match that total, being dismissed for 539, spoke volumes about the resilience in Stokes’ side and their ability to instantly throw the pressure back on the Black Caps as the tourists set about their second innings.

    “Tom Latham’s brain might have been a bit frazzled after a lengthy period in the field. In any event, Latham’s decision to leave a ball from Anderson that crashed into his middle and off stump in the first over of New Zealand’s second innings was an early sign of uncertainty and an unduly generous way to gift Jimmy Anderson a 650th test wicket, a remarkable statistic for a fast bowler.”
    ...

    One thing is for sure, if the Black Caps have any chance of victory, then Southee and Henry can't bowl anywhere near as many hittable pies in the fourth innings. Could be a big night for Michael Bracewell.

    The same guy who’s taken 27 first class wickets in 96 games ?

    Bring back Mark Craig or Mitchell Santner

    Considering he has only started regularly bowling in the last two seasons, that statement probably isn't fair.

    27 wickets is still fuck all over two seasons

    Were those seasons covid affected?

    Kinda irrelevant when his average is a woeful 47……

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    @Catogrande said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @TeWaio

    TV comms say 284 highest successful chase at Trent Bridge.

    Nz was on the wrong end of that 284. In the 2004 series. This current nz team reminds me very much of the 2004 team actually, on the cusp of plummeting freefall.

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    @Rapido said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @Catogrande said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:

    @TeWaio

    TV comms say 284 highest successful chase at Trent Bridge.

    Nz was on the wrong end of that 284. In the 2004 series. This current nz team reminds me very much of the 2004 team actually, on the cusp of plummeting freefall.

    There is a danger England will plunder our bowling attack. I hope Timmee can come back strong and stop bowling pies. If the ball isn't jagging around I always worry that Henry is also reduced to a pie chucker. Bracewell might be crucial if the pitch starts to exhibit some variable bounce

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