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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:

    oh, good, and we're back here

    Jun 15, 2022

    Exclusive: Rugby Australia tells NZ it will walk in bombshell move set to tear Super Rugby apart

    Exclusive: Rugby Australia tells NZ it will walk in bombshell move set to tear Super Rugby apart

    Exclusive: RA tells New Zealand it will walk in bombshell move to tear Super Rugby apart

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  • NTAN Offline
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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:

    oh, good, and we're back here

    I only clicked on it to check that it was 2022 and not any of the cookie-cutter articles from previous years.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to NTA on last edited by
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    @NTA said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:

    oh, good, and we're back here

    I only clicked on it to check that it was 2022 and not any of the cookie-cutter articles from previous years.

    If the Brumbies had a home final there would be none of this talk. You want more interest and more money? Be better.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    It's not surprising and to be honest I can see why Rugby Australia are thinking what they are.

    Last year they got 40k for their domestic final and a large tv audience to watch Reds vs Brumbies decider.

    This year they got one home quarter final.

    Throw in the broadcasting $ issue + that RA under their current management like to negotiate through the media and here we are.

    You could see this coming when RA only signed up to the trans-tasman Super comp for 2 years.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
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    This is the same Fox, who wouldn't pay RA enough to broadcast rugby in Australia. Nine/Stan probably paid unders for the deal.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

    This is the same Fox, who wouldn't pay RA enough to broadcast rugby in Australia. Nine/Stan probably paid unders for the deal.

    I think they paid what it was worth at the time in a buyer's market.

    And yes, Fox can go and get fucked.

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2022:

    It's not surprising and to be honest I can see why Rugby Australia are thinking what they are.

    Last year they got 40k for their domestic final and a large tv audience to watch Reds vs Brumbies decider.

    This year they got one home quarter final.

    Throw in the broadcasting $ issue + that RA under their current management like to negotiate through the media and here we are.

    You could see this coming when RA only signed up to the trans-tasman Super comp for 2 years.

    and they need to do something to raise the profile before hosting the RWC

    Its also mad to think there is nothing between the guys i manage in melbourne and a super contract

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    so, here the question for me....if a pacific super rugby comp was taking off the table....no wants to play with us....do we think a 5/6 team NZ super comp is the best was forward or a "full strength" NPC and flag the franchises

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @Kiwiwomble a 5 team comp is already boring....but I think the NPC as the main vehicle for NZR is too far gone, so yeah.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2022:

    so, here the question for me....if a pacific super rugby comp was taking off the table....no wants to play with us....do we think a 5/6 team NZ super comp is the best was forward or a "full strength" NPC and flag the franchises

    no

    and this is why i reckon, for all their talk, NZRU will blink.

    Super Rugby Aotearoa is completely unsustainable. They would need to create a new comp from scratch for the first half of the year. Or tear up the entire structure and start again. And that will never happen.

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
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    @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Kiwiwomble a 5 team comp is already boring....but I think the NPC as the main vehicle for NZR is too far gone, so yeah.

    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2022:

    so, here the question for me....if a pacific super rugby comp was taking off the table....no wants to play with us....do we think a 5/6 team NZ super comp is the best was forward or a "full strength" NPC and flag the franchises

    no

    and this is why i reckon, for all their talk, NZRU will blink.

    Super Rugby Aotearoa is completely unsustainable. They would need to create a new comp from scratch for the first half of the year. Or tear up the entire structure and start again. And that will never happen.

    ok, at least im not crazy thinking SRA, even with a sixth team, is going to achieve little except wear out and bruise out top players

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:

    oh, good, and we're back here

    Jun 15, 2022

    Exclusive: Rugby Australia tells NZ it will walk in bombshell move set to tear Super Rugby apart

    Exclusive: Rugby Australia tells NZ it will walk in bombshell move set to tear Super Rugby apart

    Exclusive: RA tells New Zealand it will walk in bombshell move to tear Super Rugby apart

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by Tim
    #1368

    @mariner4life 10 team competition?

    North Harbour+Northland
    Auckland+CM
    MP
    Waikato
    BOP
    Central Vikings
    Wellington
    Ta$man
    Canterbury
    Otago

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @Tim said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @mariner4life 10 team competition?

    North Harbour+Northland
    Auckland+CM
    MP
    Waikato
    BOP
    Central Vikings
    Wellington
    Ta$man
    Canterbury
    Otago

    looks good

    Love having North Auckland back
    And the Vikings
    And the South Central Vikings
    One assumes Otago includes Southland (i know, who cares)

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    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:

    South Central Vikings

    Love it. 🙂

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @Tim obvious joke aside...thats where it get messy, make a new comp too similar to NPC and it will do more damage to that legacy than good

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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @Kiwiwomble I think one day we will have to face the reality that we cannot have two entirely separate professional competitions, and we especially cannot sustain a 14 team competition.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Tim obvious joke aside...thats where it get messy, make a new comp too similar to NPC and it will do more damage to that legacy than good

    you wouldn't have both, and maybe we would have a structure that makes sense. So the NPC is now played March to the end of September or something (including international breaks)

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    replied to Tim on last edited by
    #1374

    @Tim said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Kiwiwomble I think one day we will have to face the reality that we cannot have two entirely separate professional competitions, and we especially cannot sustain a 14 team competition.

    i think we've been circling that day for a couple of years already

    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Tim obvious joke aside...thats where it get messy, make a new comp too similar to NPC and it will do more damage to that legacy than good

    you wouldn't have both, and maybe we would have a structure that makes sense. So the NPC is now played March to the end of September or something (including international breaks)

    so relegate the bottom teams to the heartland or we thinking the death of some unions?

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Tim on last edited by
    #1375

    @Tim although the current NPC is semi-pro at best for a good portion of players.

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