Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****
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I don’t disagree with the risk of over doing things and trying to fill holes that don’t really need to. But this series was centred on Leia and rightly so, that was a big gap because A New Hope gives us the early Luke story.
But the ending showing a first meeting of sorts and then the jump to A New Hope where Luke is talking about Ben as a great man as if there is this intimate knowledge of him. Well he wouldn’t have got that knowledge from ol Uncle Owen…
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@ACT-Crusader said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
I don’t disagree with the risk of over doing things and trying to fill holes that don’t really need to. But this series was centred on Leia and rightly so, that was a big gap because A New Hope gives us the early Luke story.
But the ending showing a first meeting of sorts and then the jump to A New Hope where Luke is talking about Ben as a great man as if there is this intimate knowledge of him. Well he wouldn’t have got that knowledge from ol Uncle Owen…
Uncle Owen warming to Obi Wan and asking if he wants to meet Luke is at odds with the “crazy old man” talk from ANH. I wonder what happened there ?
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@ACT-Crusader i might have to go back to watch that scene for ANH, i never remember feeling Luke had any feelings towards BK other than the "old war vet" that lives as a bit of a hermit, and i thought that last scene did enough to suggest Owen would have been much more generous over the next decade
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@Kiwiwomble there’s little tidbits early on and then later on when Luke and Solo are rescuing Leia. Solo asks Luke where he found that old hermit and Luke talks about Ben being a great man etc
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@ACT-Crusader said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble there’s little tidbits early on and then later on when Luke and Solo are rescuing Leia. Solo asks Luke where he found that old hermit and Luke talks about Ben being a great man etc
oh, i figured that was all more based on their interactions since "meeting", finding out he was a jedi, that he fought in the clone wars, kind of the very american "thank you for your service" as soon as they find out someone is a vet
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
One of the key lines is Leia's excitement that 'Kenobi is here?'
yeah, i was talking to the wife after the series ended that they might never have met again, the next time he sees her might be through the doors just before DV kills him
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@MN5 yep. Perhaps there’s a missing story in there that could possibly link Luke’s desire to join the academy (and not be a farmer) to fight and Owen’s reaction and disgruntlement with all things Jedi / empire / life. On one hand Owen is turning on OWK but on the other Luke thinks highly of him.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
yeah, i was talking to the wife after the series ended that they might never have met again, the next time he sees her might be through the doors just before DV kills him
[pedant alert] Come on, DV never killed him, he went the way of the Force…
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@ACT-Crusader said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
yeah, i was talking to the wife after the series ended that they might never have met again, the next time he sees her might be through the doors just before DV kills him
[pedant alert] Come on, DV never killed him, he went the way of the Force…
...but didn;t he still have to die to become one with the force? never heard the idea vader didn't kill him
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I'd like to see a series based on the trench type warfare, between the Empire and I assume Rebels, from Solo. No Jedi, no Skywalkers, just a straight up show about new characters fighting in those wars (so kind of like Rogue One) but I'm not sure that's a direction Filoni would want to go.
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@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
I'd like to see a series based on the trench type warfare, between the Empire and I assume Rebels, from Solo. No Jedi, no Skywalkers, just a straight up show about new characters fighting in those wars (so kind of like Rogue One) but I'm not sure that's a direction Filoni would want to go.
might of been in this very thread, i saw a funny vid about stormtroopers in trench warfare, they see the glow over the top, one asks the other what colour it is...his back is turned...i think we can sneak up on him
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@ACT-Crusader said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble there’s little tidbits early on and then later on when Luke and Solo are rescuing Leia. Solo asks Luke where he found that old hermit and Luke talks about Ben being a great man etc
My recollection was that Luke wondered, but did not know Ben and Obi Wan were the same man. Owen dismisses the notion and calls Ben the crazy old man, probably to continue his protection of his nephew
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im watching it now, first conversation with owen he just says he wonders if Obiwan is related to old ben kenobi, doesn't seem to know anything about him other than he exists
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@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@ACT-Crusader said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble there’s little tidbits early on and then later on when Luke and Solo are rescuing Leia. Solo asks Luke where he found that old hermit and Luke talks about Ben being a great man etc
My recollection was that Luke wondered, but did not know Ben and Obi Wan were the same man
No he didn’t. He hadn’t heard the name Obi Wan until R2 and CP3-O rocked up with Leia's message.
It’s nice when someone else does the video work
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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
im watching it now, first conversation with owen he just says he wonders if Obiwan is related to old ben kenobi, doesn't seem to know anything about him other than he exists
Which ties in with what Kenobi agreed to do. Stay away
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@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
im watching it now, first conversation with owen he just says he wonders if Obiwan is related to old ben kenobi, doesn't seem to know anything about him other than he exists
Which ties in with what Kenobi agreed to do. Stay away
oh, i agree, was just saying im not sure how much there is to investigate re Luke thinking highly of Obi Wan...because i dont think he did before meeting him
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@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
im watching it now, first conversation with owen he just says he wonders if Obiwan is related to old ben kenobi, doesn't seem to know anything about him other than he exists
Which ties in with what Kenobi agreed to do. Stay away
But when he is knocked out after looking for R2 he comes to and says Ben Kenobi, I’m glad to see you!
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@ACT-Crusader said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
im watching it now, first conversation with owen he just says he wonders if Obiwan is related to old ben kenobi, doesn't seem to know anything about him other than he exists
Which ties in with what Kenobi agreed to do. Stay away
But when he is knocked out after looking for R2 he comes to and says Ben Kenobi, I’m glad to see you!
He obviously knows who he is. But the earlier interaction with Owen suggests he doesn't know him well
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@ACT-Crusader yeah, theres a difference between knowing he exists, recognizing him from town as the old hermit and knowing much/anything about him...he's also glad to see him because he was going to take R2 to him to see if he knew who "Obi Wan" was
after listening to the bit from luke triggering the leia projection and first talking to Obi-Wan...it all make sense with how theyve currently left it for me
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@ACT-Crusader said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@ACT-Crusader said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble there’s little tidbits early on and then later on when Luke and Solo are rescuing Leia. Solo asks Luke where he found that old hermit and Luke talks about Ben being a great man etc
My recollection was that Luke wondered, but did not know Ben and Obi Wan were the same man
No he didn’t. He hadn’t heard the name Obi Wan until R2 and CP3-O rocked up with Leia's message.
It’s nice when someone else does the video work
You are correct of course. But I was in my car on my phone and I didn't think I needed to explain more to someone as knowledgeable on the subject
The convo was moving too fast for me to tap
