All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph Me not really being comfortable with Vaaí starting a big test at lock - let alone moving him out of his specialist position.
Happy for you to point me to a game where Barrett shows how good he is at 6 though.
I don't believe you!
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph Me not really being comfortable with Vaaí starting a big test at lock - let alone moving him out of his specialist position.
Happy for you to point me to a game where Barrett shows how good he is at 6 though.
I don't believe you!
I can't think of any! He never plays there for the saders does he? But maybe they have better 6s available that aren't available to Foster.
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@KiwiMurph Me not really being comfortable with Vaaí starting a big test at lock - let alone moving him out of his specialist position.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph Me not really being comfortable with Vaaí starting a big test at lock - let alone moving him out of his specialist position.
He started Bledisloe test 2 2020 thrown into the deep end at Eden Park (test 1 was drawn) due to injuries and had a fine game.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph Me not really being comfortable with Vaaí starting a big test at lock - let alone moving him out of his specialist position.
Happy for you to point me to a game where Barrett shows how good he is at 6 though.
I don't believe you!
I can't think of any! He never plays there for the saders does he? But maybe they have better 6s available that aren't available to Foster.
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph Me not really being comfortable with Vaaí starting a big test at lock - let alone moving him out of his specialist position.
Happy for you to point me to a game where Barrett shows how good he is at 6 though.
I don't believe you!
I can't think of any! He never plays there for the saders does he? But maybe they have better 6s available that aren't available to Foster.
A Crusaders game in 2017 and one last year:
https://www.rugbyhistory.co.nz/player/scott-k-barrett -
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph Me not really being comfortable with Vaaí starting a big test at lock - let alone moving him out of his specialist position.
Happy for you to point me to a game where Barrett shows how good he is at 6 though.
I don't believe you!
I can't think of any! He never plays there for the saders does he? But maybe they have better 6s available that aren't available to Foster.
A Crusaders game in 2017 and one last year:
https://www.rugbyhistory.co.nz/player/scott-k-barrett -
@Stargazer remember who against?
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph Me not really being comfortable with Vaaí starting a big test at lock - let alone moving him out of his specialist position.
Happy for you to point me to a game where Barrett shows how good he is at 6 though.
I don't believe you!
I can't think of any! He never plays there for the saders does he? But maybe they have better 6s available that aren't available to Foster.
@Bones Yes - he does play there for the Crusaders on occasion. Thaqt';s where Hansen got his RWC idea from.
Started there at least once this season.
@KiwiMurph - That's true - but, I can remember watching a game last year - which I'm pretty sure was against Italy, when we were short of locks and I thought that if we needed to use Vaaí in the forthcoming big tests we will be in trouble. So, he's got re-proving to do for me.
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph Me not really being comfortable with Vaaí starting a big test at lock - let alone moving him out of his specialist position.
Happy for you to point me to a game where Barrett shows how good he is at 6 though.
I don't believe you!
I can't think of any! He never plays there for the saders does he? But maybe they have better 6s available that aren't available to Foster.
A Crusaders game in 2017 and one last year:
https://www.rugbyhistory.co.nz/player/scott-k-barrett@Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph Me not really being comfortable with Vaaí starting a big test at lock - let alone moving him out of his specialist position.
Happy for you to point me to a game where Barrett shows how good he is at 6 though.
I don't believe you!
I can't think of any! He never plays there for the saders does he? But maybe they have better 6s available that aren't available to Foster.
A Crusaders game in 2017 and one last year:
https://www.rugbyhistory.co.nz/player/scott-k-barrettSeems he plays one game at 6 (or a very brief stint) and then it gets shelved for a couple of years....I wonder why that is...?
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@Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph Me not really being comfortable with Vaaí starting a big test at lock - let alone moving him out of his specialist position.
Happy for you to point me to a game where Barrett shows how good he is at 6 though.
I don't believe you!
I can't think of any! He never plays there for the saders does he? But maybe they have better 6s available that aren't available to Foster.
A Crusaders game in 2017 and one last year:
https://www.rugbyhistory.co.nz/player/scott-k-barrettSeems he plays one game at 6 (or a very brief stint) and then it gets shelved for a couple of years....I wonder why that is...?
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@Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph Me not really being comfortable with Vaaí starting a big test at lock - let alone moving him out of his specialist position.
Happy for you to point me to a game where Barrett shows how good he is at 6 though.
I don't believe you!
I can't think of any! He never plays there for the saders does he? But maybe they have better 6s available that aren't available to Foster.
A Crusaders game in 2017 and one last year:
https://www.rugbyhistory.co.nz/player/scott-k-barrettSeems he plays one game at 6 (or a very brief stint) and then it gets shelved for a couple of years....I wonder why that is...?
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@Bones Those stats only say something about where a player starts. It doesn't give info about a player changing position during a game as a result of substitutions.
@Stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Those stats only say something about where a player starts. It doesn't give info about a player changing position during a game as a result of substitutions.
We're talking about starting aren't we?
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Well, it could be because he's primarily a lock.
That and he's not worth sticking with at 6. Although could fill a gap against the second worst team in the comp
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Well, it could be because he's primarily a lock.
That and he's not worth sticking with at 6. Although could fill a gap against the second worst team in the comp
You know SB is going to go out and play a blinder at 6 and stick it right up you don’t you,
With that many posts getting stuck into him it’s got to happen.
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Well, it could be because he's primarily a lock.
That and he's not worth sticking with at 6. Although could fill a gap against the second worst team in the comp
You know SB is going to go out and play a blinder at 6 and stick it right up you don’t you,
With that many posts getting stuck into him it’s got to happen.@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Well, it could be because he's primarily a lock.
That and he's not worth sticking with at 6. Although could fill a gap against the second worst team in the comp
You know SB is going to go out and play a blinder at 6 and stick it right up you don’t you,
With that many posts getting stuck into him it’s got to happen.You gotta hope so!
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Well, it could be because he's primarily a lock.
That and he's not worth sticking with at 6. Although could fill a gap against the second worst team in the comp
You know SB is going to go out and play a blinder at 6 and stick it right up you don’t you,
With that many posts getting stuck into him it’s got to happen.@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Well, it could be because he's primarily a lock.
That and he's not worth sticking with at 6. Although could fill a gap against the second worst team in the comp
You know SB is going to go out and play a blinder at 6 and stick it right up you don’t you,
With that many posts getting stuck into him it’s got to happen.You're welcome!
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Well, it could be because he's primarily a lock.
That and he's not worth sticking with at 6. Although could fill a gap against the second worst team in the comp
You know SB is going to go out and play a blinder at 6 and stick it right up you don’t you,
With that many posts getting stuck into him it’s got to happen. -
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Read my post above on Vaa'i.
Scott Barrett is a rookie at 6 full stop. Vaai has been an AB for two years now isn't it? And has shown he's more than capable at test level, as Well as showing he's a better 6 than Barrett (at least at SR). We have different definitions of rookie...
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Read my post above on Vaa'i.
Scott Barrett is a rookie at 6 full stop. Vaai has been an AB for two years now isn't it? And has shown he's more than capable at test level, as Well as showing he's a better 6 than Barrett (at least at SR). We have different definitions of rookie...
Nah, we need to find out if SB can hack it at 6 at Test level. Might as well do it now rather than later........
(Calls RTS and asks if he wants to share the taxi...)
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@Chris and Ofa will dominate his opposite!
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris and Ofa will dominate his opposite!
Now you have gone too far.
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Read my post above on Vaa'i.
Scott Barrett is a rookie at 6 full stop. Vaai has been an AB for two years now isn't it? And has shown he's more than capable at test level, as Well as showing he's a better 6 than Barrett (at least at SR). We have different definitions of rookie...
Nah, we need to find out if SB can hack it at 6 at Test level. Might as well do it now rather than later........
(Calls RTS and asks if he wants to share the taxi...)
@Victor-Meldrew and to be fair, IMO SB was not the problem in 2019, our game plan was askew and we had a lock we relied on, just back from injury and horribly out of form.
I'd rather he not be trialled at 6 in test matches though, especially as our game plan hasnt really evolved since 2019....
@Chris Never!
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Those stats only say something about where a player starts. It doesn't give info about a player changing position during a game as a result of substitutions.
We're talking about starting aren't we?
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Those stats only say something about where a player starts. It doesn't give info about a player changing position during a game as a result of substitutions.
We're talking about starting aren't we?
To me starting at 6 is what's weird about his selection. It means either Retallick & Whitelock play the full game or one is replaced by a SB who's played 6 since kick-off.
