All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?
He kept mentioning Dalton with Akira when talking about six, so I think the dopey bastard is going to play three sevens at some point.
I'd prefer three 7s to two 7s and a lock named Barrett.
he said he saw Papali'i as a 6 as well (earlier in the season).
It's bizarre. And this is not Cane's fault - he's a solid leader, and a damn good 7. He's just getting competition from different (Ardie) and up and coming (Dalts) players.
For me, it's got to be Ardie to the bench to cover the loosies and rip open the game in the last 20. Pick a specialist 6 and 8 with some height, and play Cane or Dalts if Cane can't play - they are the most similar. The massive compromise comes with having to have both Cane and Ardie there; the balance is borked at that point.
Deep down, though, this isn't the issue. Our tight 5 is the key problem. Taylor Retallick Whitelock are not the physical specimens they used to be. Our props are average in so many facets, or have obvious weaknesses.
All in all, loss insurance on the Irish seems a smart move right now
After reading your post, I’m actually changing my prediction, ABs by 20+
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?
He kept mentioning Dalton with Akira when talking about six, so I think the dopey bastard is going to play three sevens at some point.
I'd prefer three 7s to two 7s and a lock named Barrett.
he said he saw Papali'i as a 6 as well (earlier in the season).
It's bizarre. And this is not Cane's fault - he's a solid leader, and a damn good 7. He's just getting competition from different (Ardie) and up and coming (Dalts) players.
For me, it's got to be Ardie to the bench to cover the loosies and rip open the game in the last 20. Pick a specialist 6 and 8 with some height, and play Cane or Dalts if Cane can't play - they are the most similar. The massive compromise comes with having to have both Cane and Ardie there; the balance is borked at that point.
Deep down, though, this isn't the issue. Our tight 5 is the key problem. Taylor Retallick Whitelock are not the physical specimens they used to be. Our props are average in so many facets, or have obvious weaknesses.
All in all, loss insurance on the Irish seems a smart move right now
After reading your post, I’m actually changing my prediction, ABs by 20+
Bump
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@Toddy said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Can I say Scott Barrett is having a good game?
Defensively Red has been excellent. Best of the loosies on D which should be the captains bread and butter. But Red been quite inaccurate at the ruck and his throwing the ball along the ground after being tackled has lead to some slow attacking ball.
One of the things I enjoyed was Brad Mooar saying after halftime there wasn't much to say as the players had answers themselves!
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@sparky said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Pleased we beat Ireland and beat them well. I dislike their moaning.
The go at the ref like football players at times... POM.. Good player but obviously went to the BOD school of whinging.
@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Pleased we beat Ireland and beat them well. I dislike their moaning.
The go at the ref like football players at times... POM.. Good player but obviously went to the BOD school of whinging.
Didn't like how he moaned after Rieko's try line tackle went to the VAR and he didn't get the answer he wanted
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Well played ABs, SB proved me wrong and great effort by all the lads.
Tough opponent for first test of the season. We will only get better
@canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Well played ABs, SB proved me wrong and great effort by all the lads.
Tough opponent for first test of the season. We will only get better
Last time they were here we best them nicely in the first test, then aDC drop was all that we win by in the second!
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That's an incredible win
Playing frantic took them out of their pattern and thrn they're fucked.
Defence was good especially on the line. Took a while to sort itself but they got better and better. Heaps of desperation.
Ireland are not doomed. When they get to play phases they look good. But got pulled out of it too easy. And they cannot chase a game.
Fuck we are good at scoring points in NZ if the other team switches off even a touch.
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Joke of a card.
Agreed
But the ref finally ran out of patience
For something Ireland have done all game
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Joke of a card.
Agreed
But the ref finally ran out of patience
For something Ireland have done all game
True
He was very lenient for both sides
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@canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Well played ABs, SB proved me wrong and great effort by all the lads.
Tough opponent for first test of the season. We will only get better
Last time they were here we best them nicely in the first test, then aDC drop was all that we win by in the second!
@Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Well played ABs, SB proved me wrong and great effort by all the lads.
Tough opponent for first test of the season. We will only get better
Last time they were here we best them nicely in the first test, then aDC drop was all that we win by in the second!
They came down here expecting to win after the way they've played us recently
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@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Pleased we beat Ireland and beat them well. I dislike their moaning.
The go at the ref like football players at times... POM.. Good player but obviously went to the BOD school of whinging.
Didn't like how he moaned after Rieko's try line tackle went to the VAR and he didn't get the answer he wanted
@canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Pleased we beat Ireland and beat them well. I dislike their moaning.
The go at the ref like football players at times... POM.. Good player but obviously went to the BOD school of whinging.
Didn't like how he moaned after Rieko's try line tackle went to the VAR and he didn't get the answer he wanted
What the holy fuck is a VAR? Piss off with that soccer talk
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POM is right but that's easier said than done
That really is a ridiculous scoreline
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To be fair POM spoke well at the after match interview
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To be fair POM spoke well at the after match interview
@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
To be fair POM spoke well at the after match interview
And on the field that guy is a fucking warrior. Tough as they come
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Heaven forbid if Ennor ever has to start an important test for us but never mind that, we were very good out there for a lot of it. Some excellent scramble defence out there especially from Rieko in that 2nd half who really is a world class player both at 11 and 13.
Dont think Ireland are as bad as the scoreboard suggests. A few bounces of the ball and its a much closer game. They're still a chance at pinching a test imo.
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That was the best TMO performance I've ever seen, and one of the best refereeing performances of the last year overall. ABs were pretty good, too
@Tordah Actually thought Wayne Barnes was very good in the MABs match. This ref seemed a little out of his depth at times
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@Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Talk about putting your balls on the line!
Some balls were put on the line, after 20 mins it was touch and fucking go, but they finished the game in tact until next week
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Like to see the possession stats for that game and the World Cup game compared to the losses ,
I’m not sure they can beat us unless they get lopsided possession
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Kind of reminds me of the 2017 Lions tour? They looked shit in the build up to the first test, then weren't in it at Eden Park number one. Looked better after.
Irish kicking game and chase, defence, ball security, and set-piece were all rancid tonight, and Gibson-Park was genuinely awful.
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Like to see the possession stats for that game and the World Cup game compared to the losses ,
I’m not sure they can beat us unless they get lopsided possession
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Like to see the possession stats for that game and the World Cup game compared to the losses ,
I’m not sure they can beat us unless they get lopsided possession
Possession and territory basically 60-40 to Ireland
