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All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

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  • sparkyS sparky

    I fucking love Ardie Savea.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    I fucking love Ardie Savea.

    He was equal top clean breaks and defenders beaten with Reece, second in metres. Also second in tackles made at 17 with 1 miss. He fucking rocks

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      Lots to like about that performance. Senior players stood up when the team was under the pump, some great individual performances, game control was on another level from what we've seen since 2018, minimal errors across the park and pretty much everything done with precision and speed.

      But the best thing for me may be they looked a team knowing what they needed to do to control the game and just got on with it with minimal errors. Kudos to Sam Cane - he deserves a lot of credit, led well and looked an oasis of calm control compared to POM who seemed to lose it. Sam had a great game as well.

      Scrum went great had the wood on Ireland. Thought BBBR & SW were solid and paced their game well and the loosies seemed to combine well. AS was sheer class and the try he set up for Ardie deserves a highlights reel of its own.

      Midfield was excellent. Best game in Black for Reiko for me - nothing flashy, but he led and owned the midfield with QT. His D on the try-line was on another planet. QT was really solid and he looked bloody calm under pressure.

      LF went OK in his first Test - nothing spectacular but a good solid performance and set up a try by angling in at just the right time to suck in the defence. Can't ask anything more from debutante. Reece looked dangerous and his defence was pretty good too.

      Jordie was good & solid but wasn't his greatest game for me. Ditto BB who had moments of brilliance but some of his kicking was a bit astray. Overall can't think of a below-average performance from any of the starting XV

      Things to work on like exits and dumb kicking obviously, and Ireland will come back hard, but 7.5/10 for that performance.

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        We had to do far too much defence. A lot of that was self inflicted. As good as we played we need to cut down the error rate, definitely agree that our field kicking has to be much better

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        • canefanC canefan

          Just saw the replay of Ardie's try. The Irish defender was sweating on the outside pass, he totally made the correct call to run it in

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          @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

          Just saw the replay of Ardie's try. The Irish defender was sweating on the outside pass, he totally made the correct call to run it in

          It was an excellent decision. I thought he would pass it and we would fluff it, but sometimes it’s better to go yourself.

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            That's a good win in the end.

            Ireland were really good for the first 15 or so mins of each half, then seemed to run out of puff a bit and we were very clinical capitalising on that. At home, and when they are fresher, they keep that intensity up for most of the match. So we still need to find a way to counter that; at times there they were making easy metres up the middle causing us all sorts of problems.

            For us, I'd like to see us play a lot tighter to begin tests, the frantic play from the outset tends to put us under a lot of pressure when the opposition is fired up and laying into us. We need a game plan where we weather the storm effectively, then up the pace of the game when we think we can exploit them, instead if trying to play at a million miles an hour from the outset. Just need to be a bit smarter, when we click nobody can stay with us but it's hard for everything to click in the first 10 - 15 minutes.

            Still though, hard to complain about that when it's the first test of the season, we should only improve from here on out.

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              I think our big work on is Beaudy, and the other kickers. Exits and kicking for position

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              @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

              I think our big work on is Beaudy, and the other kickers. Exits and kicking for position

              They really don't trust Mo'unga though do they, even when they sub him on they leave Beauden out there

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              • canefanC canefan

                We had to do far too much defence. A lot of that was self inflicted. As good as we played we need to cut down the error rate, definitely agree that our field kicking has to be much better

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                @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                We had to do far too much defence. A lot of that was self inflicted. As good as we played we need to cut down the error rate, definitely agree that our field kicking has to be much better

                Compared to recent performances, I though the error-rate was impressively low.

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                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                  That's a good win in the end.

                  Ireland were really good for the first 15 or so mins of each half, then seemed to run out of puff a bit and we were very clinical capitalising on that. At home, and when they are fresher, they keep that intensity up for most of the match. So we still need to find a way to counter that; at times there they were making easy metres up the middle causing us all sorts of problems.

                  For us, I'd like to see us play a lot tighter to begin tests, the frantic play from the outset tends to put us under a lot of pressure when the opposition is fired up and laying into us. We need a game plan where we weather the storm effectively, then up the pace of the game when we think we can exploit them, instead if trying to play at a million miles an hour from the outset. Just need to be a bit smarter, when we click nobody can stay with us but it's hard for everything to click in the first 10 - 15 minutes.

                  Still though, hard to complain about that when it's the first test of the season, we should only improve from here on out.

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                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  For us, I'd like to see us play a lot tighter to begin tests, the frantic play from the outset tends to out us under a lot of pressure when the opposition is fired up and laying into us.

                  Great point. It's almost as though they are hoping for a quick try or two to loosen the game up. Doesn't always come off...

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                    @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    I think our big work on is Beaudy, and the other kickers. Exits and kicking for position

                    They really don't trust Mo'unga though do they, even when they sub him on they leave Beauden out there

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                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    I think our big work on is Beaudy, and the other kickers. Exits and kicking for position

                    They really don't trust Mo'unga though do they, even when they sub him on they leave Beauden out there

                    He and Barrett just don't look comfortable out there together do they?

                    Dmac and Barrett together looked much better when we saw it.

                    Would be hard to leave out Mo'unga on form, of course.

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                      Taukei'aho subbed on in the 55th minute and made 13 tackles

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        We had to do far too much defence. A lot of that was self inflicted. As good as we played we need to cut down the error rate, definitely agree that our field kicking has to be much better

                        Compared to recent performances, I though the error-rate was impressively low.

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                        @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        We had to do far too much defence. A lot of that was self inflicted. As good as we played we need to cut down the error rate, definitely agree that our field kicking has to be much better

                        Compared to recent performances, I though the error-rate was impressively low.

                        Especially considering the poor design of our jersey's collar

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                          Can I hate the Irish team for their "soccer" antics and pressuring the ref?

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                            @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                            I think our big work on is Beaudy, and the other kickers. Exits and kicking for position

                            They really don't trust Mo'unga though do they, even when they sub him on they leave Beauden out there

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                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                            @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                            I think our big work on is Beaudy, and the other kickers. Exits and kicking for position

                            They really don't trust Mo'unga though do they, even when they sub him on they leave Beauden out there

                            I think it says more about Beaudie. He’s an 80 minute player and has always been versatile. Plus he’s our backline senior player along with Aaron.

                            Halfback is a tougher position to get optimum for 80 minutes, especially with the pace we are playing at.

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                              Can I hate the Irish team for their "soccer" antics and pressuring the ref?

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                              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                              Can I hate the Irish team for their "soccer" antics and pressuring the ref?

                              Totally

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                              • O Old Samurai Jack

                                Can I hate the Irish team for their "soccer" antics and pressuring the ref?

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                                @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                Can I hate the Irish team for their "soccer" antics and pressuring the ref?

                                They should be better than that. Begging for YCs is poor form

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                                  It was pleasing to see some of our Forwards constantly getting over the advantage line big improvement there.

                                  Savea,Scott Barrett,Bower,ST all good with ball in hand
                                  For me Papali'i needs to start.

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    Can I hate the Irish team for their "soccer" antics and pressuring the ref?

                                    They should be better than that. Begging for YCs is poor form

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                                    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    Can I hate the Irish team for their "soccer" antics and pressuring the ref?

                                    They should be better than that. Begging for YCs is poor form

                                    So who thinks the second test will be really close? I do

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      It was pleasing to see some of our Forwards constantly getting over the advantage line big improvement there.

                                      Savea,Scott Barrett,Bower,ST all good with ball in hand
                                      For me Papali'i needs to start.

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                                      @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      Savea,Scott Barrett,Bower,ST all good with ball in hand
                                      For me Papali'i needs to start.

                                      So does Taukei'aho

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                                        @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                        Savea,Scott Barrett,Bower,ST all good with ball in hand
                                        For me Papali'i needs to start.

                                        So does Taukei'aho

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                                        @Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                        Savea,Scott Barrett,Bower,ST all good with ball in hand
                                        For me Papali'i needs to start.

                                        So does Taukei'aho

                                        Yeah I wouldn't disagree with that either.

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                                          All those covid Crusaders will be back to add to the selection conundrum

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