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All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

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  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    @gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    I think our big work on is Beaudy, and the other kickers. Exits and kicking for position

    They really don't trust Mo'unga though do they, even when they sub him on they leave Beauden out there

    He and Barrett just don't look comfortable out there together do they?

    Dmac and Barrett together looked much better when we saw it.

    Would be hard to leave out Mo'unga on form, of course.

    Definitely, though DMac isn't a natural 10. Mo'unga is the king of Crusaderland so putting him in a secondary role to Beauden doesn't seem to work. The coaches need to make the call - one or the other - as you can't have two captains steering the ship.

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    I think our big work on is Beaudy, and the other kickers. Exits and kicking for position

    They really don't trust Mo'unga though do they, even when they sub him on they leave Beauden out there

    He and Barrett just don't look comfortable out there together do they?

    Dmac and Barrett together looked much better when we saw it.

    Would be hard to leave out Mo'unga on form, of course.

    Definitely, though DMac isn't a natural 10. Mo'unga is the king of Crusaderland so putting him in a secondary role to Beauden doesn't seem to work. The coaches need to make the call - one or the other - as you can't have two captains steering the ship.

    I agree, but if they want a complement unless injury, they should look for a Dmac 15 who can play 10. I think there is one in the squad who knows how to complement Barrett…

    If they want to use Mo’unga (which they probably should), they should probably sub Barrett (at least one of them).

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    • A African Monkey

      @Stag Well once he got subbed off when the game was in the bag, the Irish were camped on our line, so if we wanna go down the stats route, he most likely would have ended up with 20 or more tackles had he stayed out there but its not just the amount of tackles he makes, its the effectiveness of them. He hits, and hits hard.

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      @African-Monkey the All Blacks should never run with a 7 that makes one meter from 6 runs on n 60 minutes.

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        @MN5 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        @Damo said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        @sparky said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        Pleased we beat Ireland and beat them well. I dislike their moaning.

        They're the whingiest team in world rugby.

        Which is odd considering BOD retired a few years ago now.

        His legacy lives on

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        • A akan004

          SB could be in trouble for this. Dumb.

          https://twitter.com/gergilroy/status/1543156685770051584?t=7iZBzAoJn6_qNg-_xWpKAw&s=19

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          @akan004 I call BS! This is the typical response to every Irish defeat. "Ohhh the ABs were too physical". Just FO! You could put up so many of the same from both sides. The Irish go in and blow players away, it is part of their game and as soon as they get their own medicine the friggen whinging appears!
          They can FO and the NZ fans agreeing....go and give yourself a self sternum punch!

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          • StagS Stag

            @African-Monkey the All Blacks should never run with a 7 that makes one meter from 6 runs on n 60 minutes.

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            @Stag said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

            @African-Monkey the All Blacks should never run with a 7 that makes one meter from 6 runs on n 60 minutes.

            If the game plan isn't for him to be a ball runner then it probably doesn't really matter too much. According to the same stats Dalton made no runs or metres in his 20 minutes and Scott Barrett only made 8m from his 6 runs. (I don't know if they're correct). When Cane left the field he had second most tackles on the field.

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            • O Old Samurai Jack

              @akan004 I call BS! This is the typical response to every Irish defeat. "Ohhh the ABs were too physical". Just FO! You could put up so many of the same from both sides. The Irish go in and blow players away, it is part of their game and as soon as they get their own medicine the friggen whinging appears!
              They can FO and the NZ fans agreeing....go and give yourself a self sternum punch!

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              @Old-Samurai-Jack Why did he put himself in that position though? 2 minutes to go, game in the bag, the Irish player moves his head ever so slightly the other way and it's direct contact. Unnecessary.

              Agree about the whinging, they are worse than the saffas.

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                Cane is outstanding at this level, hits hard and puts his body on the line, really leads from the front.

                But, I think Dalton is really coming into his prime now, and is a bit more influential than Cane is.

                I'm not too fussed who starts though, we are blessed to have two genuinely world class 7s vying for the position.

                Longer term I can see Dalton taking the 7 and captain mantle from Cane, but Cane isn't done just yet.

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                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                  Cane is outstanding at this level, hits hard and puts his body on the line, really leads from the front.

                  But, I think Dalton is really coming into his prime now, and is a bit more influential than Cane is.

                  I'm not too fussed who starts though, we are blessed to have two genuinely world class 7s vying for the position.

                  Longer term I can see Dalton taking the 7 and captain mantle from Cane, but Cane isn't done just yet.

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                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  Cane is outstanding at this level, hits hard and puts his body on the line, really leads from the front.

                  But, I think Dalton is really coming into his prime now, and is a bit more influential than Cane is.

                  I'm not too fussed who starts though, we are blessed to have two genuinely world class 7s vying for the position.

                  Longer term I can see Dalton taking the 7 and captain mantle from Cane, but Cane isn't done just yet.

                  Plus we always seem to play just that much better when Sam's on the field. Hugely influential.

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                      Would like to see Cane at 6 - Paps at 7 - with Ardie at 8 combo. PGS some good go forward off the bench - is there any love left for Akira though?

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                      • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                        Would like to see Cane at 6 - Paps at 7 - with Ardie at 8 combo. PGS some good go forward off the bench - is there any love left for Akira though?

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                        @Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        Would like to see Cane at 6 - Paps at 7 - with Ardie at 8 combo. PGS some good go forward off the bench - is there any love left for Akira though?

                        Three 7s, sounds like a plan!

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                          @Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                          Would like to see Cane at 6 - Paps at 7 - with Ardie at 8 combo. PGS some good go forward off the bench - is there any love left for Akira though?

                          Three 7s, sounds like a plan!

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                          @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                          @Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                          Would like to see Cane at 6 - Paps at 7 - with Ardie at 8 combo. PGS some good go forward off the bench - is there any love left for Akira though?

                          Three 7s, sounds like a plan!

                          Two 6.5s and one 7.12.

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                            @Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                            Would like to see Cane at 6 - Paps at 7 - with Ardie at 8 combo. PGS some good go forward off the bench - is there any love left for Akira though?

                            Three 7s, sounds like a plan!

                            Two 6.5s and one 7.12.

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                            @Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                            @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                            @Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                            Would like to see Cane at 6 - Paps at 7 - with Ardie at 8 combo. PGS some good go forward off the bench - is there any love left for Akira though?

                            Three 7s, sounds like a plan!

                            Two 6.5s and one 7.12.

                            Has Sam played much at 6?

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                              Not going to read the thread.

                              Yay, good guys won.

                              Fozzie is fat.

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                              • A akan004

                                @Old-Samurai-Jack Why did he put himself in that position though? 2 minutes to go, game in the bag, the Irish player moves his head ever so slightly the other way and it's direct contact. Unnecessary.

                                Agree about the whinging, they are worse than the saffas.

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                                @akan004 Yeah, he has to watch himself (obviously cos of his history) but the number of "twitter short videos" that will be in circulation this week showing AB transgressions will correspond to the number of points scored against Ireland. They are a bunch of Karens.

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                                  Yeah sure the Barrett clean out might not reach the red card threshold, but fuck what's the point in what he did? Beyond stupid, like his 3-4 dives over the ruck early in the game for absolutely zero result other than giving us shit ball and the ref a reason to penalise us. Someone needs to sit him down with these clips and ask him why, tell him to pull his head in.

                                  Edit: without that shit it was a top notch locks game.

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                                    And the Oscar for narcissism goes to:

                                    https://twitter.com/jerryflannery/status/1543221272464719872?t=UAPWs1v7cwp6wYCrbQ4HPw&s=19

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      And the Oscar for narcissism goes to:

                                      https://twitter.com/jerryflannery/status/1543221272464719872?t=UAPWs1v7cwp6wYCrbQ4HPw&s=19

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                                      @sparky not sure if serious...but this was a lovely retort.

                                      https://twitter.com/Beggsy_7/status/1543255729641082881?t=LM4zTirEJeHqr0I5zidSjA&s=19

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @sparky not sure if serious...but this was a lovely retort.

                                        https://twitter.com/Beggsy_7/status/1543255729641082881?t=LM4zTirEJeHqr0I5zidSjA&s=19

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                        @sparky not sure if serious...but this was a lovely retort.

                                        Liked this one as well.

                                        ac892f77-22f2-4293-a9fa-6e28bbc599ef-image.png

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          @sparky not sure if serious...but this was a lovely retort.

                                          Liked this one as well.

                                          ac892f77-22f2-4293-a9fa-6e28bbc599ef-image.png

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew a lot of people taking it seriously!

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