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All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

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  • canefanC canefan

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    How come last year or two we have been underpowered in the forwards playing SA, France, Ireland with the bulk of the forwards the same as today. Taylor, Ofa, SW, BBBR, Sam C, Ardie, ScoBa.
    This time they were great. Loved the error free play and ball retention.

    Sam Whitelock deserves a knighthood

    Think we should bring in a next gen prop to give experience Newell, Norris

    It’s called sport 😉

    Sometimes it’s your night and sometimes it’s not.

    Sure I want it to be our night every night, but I’m not 15yo anymore where I think it’s an injustice or some world shattering event when it’s not.

    Maybe the players and coaches were mentally and physically tired after a stressful covid19 affected season. We never really fired on the NHEOYT and the coaches weren't able to flip the script. Last night we played like a team that had a point to prove. Hopefully they can follow up next weekend

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    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    Hopefully they can follow up next weekend

    thats the key isnt it, in how we respond to this first outing....sure we know the Irish will respond and no doubt be better for the hitout, but so will we, so need to prove that the past 2 covid disrupted seasons were blips and the ABs are building again....albeit with a bunch of players who may or may not make next years RWC

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      @Stargazer Complete with yacht rock backing track

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        Goodhue and Havili will be rueing getting Covid and giving Tupaea a chance to start with another season of SR under his belt. Tupaea really has to start again next week after being one of our best last night and combining well with Rieko

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        • No QuarterN No Quarter

          Goodhue and Havili will be rueing getting Covid and giving Tupaea a chance to start with another season of SR under his belt. Tupaea really has to start again next week after being one of our best last night and combining well with Rieko

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          @No-Quarter Yep, he didn't put a foot wrong and made every post a winner. I can only see Jordan being a change this week in the starting backline.

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            Goodhue and Havili will be rueing getting Covid and giving Tupaea a chance to start with another season of SR under his belt. Tupaea really has to start again next week after being one of our best last night and combining well with Rieko

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            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

            Goodhue and Havili will be rueing getting Covid and giving Tupaea a chance to start with another season of SR under his belt. Tupaea really has to start again next week after being one of our best last night and combining well with Rieko

            how many tests to the RWC? We have to know our top midfield and play it consistently. And loosies ... and halves. Got to get combinations working in time for next year

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              assume it was covered earlier in the thread, but why did our coaching box have masks, but the Irish not?

              How good was it seeing our props working as they did, and we contested lineouts, sure a couple on our line the game was already ours, but so good seeing them put someone in the air and disrupt!

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                assume it was covered earlier in the thread, but why did our coaching box have masks, but the Irish not?

                How good was it seeing our props working as they did, and we contested lineouts, sure a couple on our line the game was already ours, but so good seeing them put someone in the air and disrupt!

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                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                assume it was covered earlier in the thread, but why did our coaching box have masks, but the Irish not?

                How good was it seeing our props working as they did, and we contested lineouts, sure a couple on our line the game was already ours, but so good seeing them put someone in the air and disrupt!

                Bower, Ofa and AT all offer more than scrummaging which is a bonus. If they can hold their own vs SA then their mobility is an asset. I'm not sure KT, Nepo offer enough around the park.

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                • chimoausC chimoaus

                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  assume it was covered earlier in the thread, but why did our coaching box have masks, but the Irish not?

                  How good was it seeing our props working as they did, and we contested lineouts, sure a couple on our line the game was already ours, but so good seeing them put someone in the air and disrupt!

                  Bower, Ofa and AT all offer more than scrummaging which is a bonus. If they can hold their own vs SA then their mobility is an asset. I'm not sure KT, Nepo offer enough around the park.

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                  @chimoaus was great seeing how well they stood up at scrum time too given the struggles we have had in recent years and how highly rated Tadhg is, and especially Ofa who has struggled in recent weeks.

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    assume it was covered earlier in the thread, but why did our coaching box have masks, but the Irish not?

                    How good was it seeing our props working as they did, and we contested lineouts, sure a couple on our line the game was already ours, but so good seeing them put someone in the air and disrupt!

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                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    assume it was covered earlier in the thread, but why did our coaching box have masks, but the Irish not?

                    How good was it seeing our props working as they did, and we contested lineouts, sure a couple on our line the game was already ours, but so good seeing them put someone in the air and disrupt!

                    Assume because they had the plague this week.

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                    • boobooB booboo

                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      assume it was covered earlier in the thread, but why did our coaching box have masks, but the Irish not?

                      How good was it seeing our props working as they did, and we contested lineouts, sure a couple on our line the game was already ours, but so good seeing them put someone in the air and disrupt!

                      Assume because they had the plague this week.

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                      @booboo but they were over it, or they shouldn't have been there...?

                      Either way, thought it looked daft with one box all masked up, and the other not.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @booboo but they were over it, or they shouldn't have been there...?

                        Either way, thought it looked daft with one box all masked up, and the other not.

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                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @booboo but they were over it, or they shouldn't have been there...?

                        Either way, thought it looked daft with one box all masked up, and the other not.

                        Don't know what the protocols are? Is there a requirement for masks for a certain period thereafter?

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                          Just another thing on the commentators - they credited Cane with that huge hit in the first half that was actually by Ofa.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @booboo but they were over it, or they shouldn't have been there...?

                            Either way, thought it looked daft with one box all masked up, and the other not.

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                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                            @booboo but they were over it, or they shouldn't have been there...?

                            Either way, thought it looked daft with one box all masked up, and the other not.

                            One country has totally moved on from covid19. One hasn't

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                            • boobooB booboo

                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                              @booboo but they were over it, or they shouldn't have been there...?

                              Either way, thought it looked daft with one box all masked up, and the other not.

                              Don't know what the protocols are? Is there a requirement for masks for a certain period thereafter?

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                              @booboo if there are, I wasnt aware, which is entirely possible

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                assume it was covered earlier in the thread, but why did our coaching box have masks, but the Irish not?

                                How good was it seeing our props working as they did, and we contested lineouts, sure a couple on our line the game was already ours, but so good seeing them put someone in the air and disrupt!

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                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                assume it was covered earlier in the thread, but why did our coaching box have masks, but the Irish not?

                                How good was it seeing our props working as they did, and we contested lineouts, sure a couple on our line the game was already ours, but so good seeing them put someone in the air and disrupt!

                                Ofa was out to prove a point and really put down a marker - poss. his best game in Black. Some of his hits were really hurting the Irish pack. Another Test or two like that and he'll have the jersey nailed on.

                                I know bugger-all about front-row play, but noticed a drop-off in forward momentum when Karl T came on.

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                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                  assume it was covered earlier in the thread, but why did our coaching box have masks, but the Irish not?

                                  How good was it seeing our props working as they did, and we contested lineouts, sure a couple on our line the game was already ours, but so good seeing them put someone in the air and disrupt!

                                  Ofa was out to prove a point and really put down a marker - poss. his best game in Black. Some of his hits were really hurting the Irish pack. Another Test or two like that and he'll have the jersey nailed on.

                                  I know bugger-all about front-row play, but noticed a drop-off in forward momentum when Karl T came on.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                  assume it was covered earlier in the thread, but why did our coaching box have masks, but the Irish not?

                                  How good was it seeing our props working as they did, and we contested lineouts, sure a couple on our line the game was already ours, but so good seeing them put someone in the air and disrupt!

                                  Ofa was out to prove a point and really put down a marker - poss. his best game in Black. Some of his hits were really hurting the Irish pack. Another Test or two like that and he'll have the jersey nailed on.

                                  I know bugger-all about front-row play, but noticed a drop-off in forward momentum when Karl T came on.

                                  Our level dropped as the subs came on

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                                  • nzzpN nzzp

                                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    Goodhue and Havili will be rueing getting Covid and giving Tupaea a chance to start with another season of SR under his belt. Tupaea really has to start again next week after being one of our best last night and combining well with Rieko

                                    how many tests to the RWC? We have to know our top midfield and play it consistently. And loosies ... and halves. Got to get combinations working in time for next year

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                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    Goodhue and Havili will be rueing getting Covid and giving Tupaea a chance to start with another season of SR under his belt. Tupaea really has to start again next week after being one of our best last night and combining well with Rieko

                                    how many tests to the RWC? We have to know our top midfield and play it consistently. And loosies ... and halves. Got to get combinations working in time for next year

                                    I’m not huge on Tupaea as a player but last night showed why kind of player works best in the 12 jersey in between BB and RI. So for me it has to be him or Goodhue going forward through to the RWC. If Mounga is in the 10, then you may choose Havili

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                                    • StagS Stag

                                      @African-Monkey 6 runs for 1 meter gained and 14 tackles is hardly earth shattering for an All Black 7 and captain.

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                                      @Stag said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      @African-Monkey 6 runs for 1 meter gained and 14 tackles is hardly earth shattering for an All Black 7 and captain.

                                      really, 14 tackles and a good percentage of them dominant, christ some of you probably need to learn about the game. it's not about stats, but who makes a difference on field and Cane surely does!

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                                        @nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                        Goodhue and Havili will be rueing getting Covid and giving Tupaea a chance to start with another season of SR under his belt. Tupaea really has to start again next week after being one of our best last night and combining well with Rieko

                                        how many tests to the RWC? We have to know our top midfield and play it consistently. And loosies ... and halves. Got to get combinations working in time for next year

                                        I’m not huge on Tupaea as a player but last night showed why kind of player works best in the 12 jersey in between BB and RI. So for me it has to be him or Goodhue going forward through to the RWC. If Mounga is in the 10, then you may choose Havili

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                                        @junior This! BB needs a "get out of jail" No.12 alongside him. Big Havili fan but a BB, Havili combo doesn't seem to work.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @booboo but they were over it, or they shouldn't have been there...?

                                          Either way, thought it looked daft with one box all masked up, and the other not.

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                                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          @booboo but they were over it, or they shouldn't have been there...?

                                          Either way, thought it looked daft with one box all masked up, and the other not.

                                          Do we use safety gear for what looks daft to someone on TV or for what they think is best for safety.

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