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Australia v England - 1st Test

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  • CatograndeC Catogrande

    Gah! What a Shiloh Pitt. Well done to Aus for overcoming the injuries and the red card. Showed some real ticker and great accuracy during the ten minute spell that won the game.

    Smith will have many better games than that but very few that are worse. Our breakdown work and spoiling fell off dramatically when Curry was subbed. Ludlam carried well but we lost that speed and expertise that a genuine 7 brings. Who’d have thought it? Not Eddie it seems. Centre pairing just not working either, certainly not within Eddie’s new attacking structure. However, I think that this might just be the turning point. So much so I reckon we might just take this series 2-1.

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    @Catogrande said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

    Shiloh Pitt

    Don't bring Brangelina into this

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      I couldn’t give a flying fuck if you all think it was a bad game.

      We haven’t beaten the Poms since 2015. More than that, we haven’t gotten close to beating the Pons since 2015.

      We lost Quade in the warmup, then lost Banks, AAA and Swain inside the first half.

      And we FUCKEN WON. By rolling straight over the top of them.

      So it might have been ugly but I’m grinning from ear to ear today, no matter what all of you miserable Kiwi bastards think.

      10/10 game. A classic for the ages.

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      • barbarianB barbarian

        I couldn’t give a flying fuck if you all think it was a bad game.

        We haven’t beaten the Poms since 2015. More than that, we haven’t gotten close to beating the Pons since 2015.

        We lost Quade in the warmup, then lost Banks, AAA and Swain inside the first half.

        And we FUCKEN WON. By rolling straight over the top of them.

        So it might have been ugly but I’m grinning from ear to ear today, no matter what all of you miserable Kiwi bastards think.

        10/10 game. A classic for the ages.

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        @barbarian said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

        I couldn’t give a flying fuck if you all think it was a bad game.

        We haven’t beaten the Poms since 2015. More than that, we haven’t gotten close to beating the Pons since 2015.

        We lost Quade in the warmup, then lost Banks, AAA and Swain inside the first half.

        And we FUCKEN WON. By rolling straight over the top of them.

        So it might have been ugly but I’m grinning from ear to ear today, no matter what all of you miserable Kiwi bastards think.

        10/10 game. A classic for the ages.

        Hear hear

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        • barbarianB barbarian

          I couldn’t give a flying fuck if you all think it was a bad game.

          We haven’t beaten the Poms since 2015. More than that, we haven’t gotten close to beating the Pons since 2015.

          We lost Quade in the warmup, then lost Banks, AAA and Swain inside the first half.

          And we FUCKEN WON. By rolling straight over the top of them.

          So it might have been ugly but I’m grinning from ear to ear today, no matter what all of you miserable Kiwi bastards think.

          10/10 game. A classic for the ages.

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          @barbarian said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

          I couldn’t give a flying fuck if you all think it was a bad game.

          We haven’t beaten the Poms since 2015. More than that, we haven’t gotten close to beating the Pons since 2015.

          We lost Quade in the warmup, then lost Banks, AAA and Swain inside the first half.

          And we FUCKEN WON. By rolling straight over the top of them.

          So it might have been ugly but I’m grinning from ear to ear today, no matter what all of you miserable Kiwi bastards think.

          10/10 game. A classic for the ages.

          Dude chill out i actually yelled out loud and fist pumped when Samu scored. Loved it.

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          • barbarianB barbarian

            I couldn’t give a flying fuck if you all think it was a bad game.

            We haven’t beaten the Poms since 2015. More than that, we haven’t gotten close to beating the Pons since 2015.

            We lost Quade in the warmup, then lost Banks, AAA and Swain inside the first half.

            And we FUCKEN WON. By rolling straight over the top of them.

            So it might have been ugly but I’m grinning from ear to ear today, no matter what all of you miserable Kiwi bastards think.

            10/10 game. A classic for the ages.

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            @barbarian famous victories aren’t famous for no reason 😀

            Congrats bro. Enjoy this one after a long drought.

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            • barbarianB barbarian

              I couldn’t give a flying fuck if you all think it was a bad game.

              We haven’t beaten the Poms since 2015. More than that, we haven’t gotten close to beating the Pons since 2015.

              We lost Quade in the warmup, then lost Banks, AAA and Swain inside the first half.

              And we FUCKEN WON. By rolling straight over the top of them.

              So it might have been ugly but I’m grinning from ear to ear today, no matter what all of you miserable Kiwi bastards think.

              10/10 game. A classic for the ages.

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              @barbarian

              Great post.

              It’s a fucking cliche, but its really true for me -
              I support two teams, the All Blacks and anyone playing England.

              I only saw the second half, but I really enjoyed it.

              Btw, they are followed by anyone playing you fluffybunnies, but those fluffybunnies are worse.

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              • gt12G gt12

                @barbarian

                Great post.

                It’s a fucking cliche, but its really true for me -
                I support two teams, the All Blacks and anyone playing England.

                I only saw the second half, but I really enjoyed it.

                Btw, they are followed by anyone playing you fluffybunnies, but those fluffybunnies are worse.

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                @gt12 said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                I support two teams, the All Blacks and anyone playing England.
                I only saw the second half, but I really enjoyed it.
                Btw, they are followed by anyone playing you fluffybunnies, but those fluffybunnies are worse.

                Uh ... Thanks?

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                • NTAN NTA

                  @gt12 said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                  I support two teams, the All Blacks and anyone playing England.
                  I only saw the second half, but I really enjoyed it.
                  Btw, they are followed by anyone playing you fluffybunnies, but those fluffybunnies are worse.

                  Uh ... Thanks?

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                  @NTA said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                  @gt12 said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                  I support two teams, the All Blacks and anyone playing England.
                  I only saw the second half, but I really enjoyed it.
                  Btw, they are followed by anyone playing you fluffybunnies, but those fluffybunnies are worse.

                  Uh ... Thanks?

                  You should see how conflicted us Kiwis used to get when your cricket boys played Pakistan...

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    @barbarian

                    Great post.

                    It’s a fucking cliche, but its really true for me -
                    I support two teams, the All Blacks and anyone playing England.

                    I only saw the second half, but I really enjoyed it.

                    Btw, they are followed by anyone playing you fluffybunnies, but those fluffybunnies are worse.

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                    @gt12 said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                    I only saw the second half, but I really enjoyed it.

                    You're bloody lucky. I suffered through the first half and went to bed. You got the clean end of the stick

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                    • barbarianB barbarian

                      I couldn’t give a flying fuck if you all think it was a bad game.

                      We haven’t beaten the Poms since 2015. More than that, we haven’t gotten close to beating the Pons since 2015.

                      We lost Quade in the warmup, then lost Banks, AAA and Swain inside the first half.

                      And we FUCKEN WON. By rolling straight over the top of them.

                      So it might have been ugly but I’m grinning from ear to ear today, no matter what all of you miserable Kiwi bastards think.

                      10/10 game. A classic for the ages.

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                      @barbarian said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                      I couldn’t give a flying fuck if you all think it was a bad game.

                      We haven’t beaten the Poms since 2015. More than that, we haven’t gotten close to beating the Pons since 2015.

                      We lost Quade in the warmup, then lost Banks, AAA and Swain inside the first half.

                      And we FUCKEN WON. By rolling straight over the top of them.

                      So it might have been ugly but I’m grinning from ear to ear today, no matter what all of you miserable Kiwi bastards think.

                      10/10 game. A classic for the ages.

                      It was a bad game from England, not so sure for Oz. Showed great heart to keep in the game and really roll over the top of England. Second half they were great.

                      Unbelievably stupid red card though.

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                        Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.

                        They really do have some cracking players.

                        But god they are awful.

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                        • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                          Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.

                          They really do have some cracking players.

                          But god they are awful.

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                          @MajorRage said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                          Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.

                          They really do have some cracking players.

                          But god they are awful.

                          this is standard Eddie Jones though isn't it? i feel like you hire him for 3 years maximum.

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @MajorRage said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                            Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.

                            They really do have some cracking players.

                            But god they are awful.

                            this is standard Eddie Jones though isn't it? i feel like you hire him for 3 years maximum.

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                            @mariner4life said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                            @MajorRage said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                            Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.

                            They really do have some cracking players.

                            But god they are awful.

                            this is standard Eddie Jones though isn't it? i feel like you hire him for 3 years maximum.

                            Yep. Good old "Shelf Life" Jones.

                            Everyone here remembers the RWC2003 semi-final. Nobody thinks about his almost religious determination to ignore or even devolve our scrum.

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @MajorRage said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                              Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.

                              They really do have some cracking players.

                              But god they are awful.

                              this is standard Eddie Jones though isn't it? i feel like you hire him for 3 years maximum.

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                              @mariner4life said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                              @MajorRage said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                              Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.

                              They really do have some cracking players.

                              But god they are awful.

                              this is standard Eddie Jones though isn't it? i feel like you hire him for 3 years maximum.

                              Yep, I'm not sure what more people expect of Eddie? He specialises in one-off victories against the All Blacks, and he's already delivered that so I don't think he has much more to offer England now. Time for him to move to the next team that wants a famous win against us.

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                              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                @mariner4life said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                @MajorRage said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.

                                They really do have some cracking players.

                                But god they are awful.

                                this is standard Eddie Jones though isn't it? i feel like you hire him for 3 years maximum.

                                Yep, I'm not sure what more people expect of Eddie? He specialises in one-off victories against the All Blacks, and he's already delivered that so I don't think he has much more to offer England now. Time for him to move to the next team that wants a famous win against us.

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                                @No-Quarter said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                @mariner4life said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                @MajorRage said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.

                                They really do have some cracking players.

                                But god they are awful.

                                this is standard Eddie Jones though isn't it? i feel like you hire him for 3 years maximum.

                                Yep, I'm not sure what more people expect of Eddie? He specialises in one-off victories against the All Blacks

                                Because it's all about you 🙄

                                😉

                                In his defence: Jones took a failed RWC2015 Test team and turned them around in pretty short order, which is his specialty. Grand Slam, two other 6N titles, undefeated in a calendar year. RWC final and a few wins on the trot against us as well.

                                You could easily say he took the massive resources of RFU and just pointed it in the right direction, but that clearly wasn't as easy as first thought because England have underperformed so massively overall when you look at their results. The problem with having a huge resource base is sometimes too many choices. Particularly when some of the talent in your local comp is foreign.

                                His main issue is stagnation. It happened nearly everywhere he went - and really your head coach should be 3-4 years at most IMHO.

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                                • NTAN NTA

                                  @No-Quarter said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                  @mariner4life said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                  @MajorRage said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                  Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.

                                  They really do have some cracking players.

                                  But god they are awful.

                                  this is standard Eddie Jones though isn't it? i feel like you hire him for 3 years maximum.

                                  Yep, I'm not sure what more people expect of Eddie? He specialises in one-off victories against the All Blacks

                                  Because it's all about you 🙄

                                  😉

                                  In his defence: Jones took a failed RWC2015 Test team and turned them around in pretty short order, which is his specialty. Grand Slam, two other 6N titles, undefeated in a calendar year. RWC final and a few wins on the trot against us as well.

                                  You could easily say he took the massive resources of RFU and just pointed it in the right direction, but that clearly wasn't as easy as first thought because England have underperformed so massively overall when you look at their results. The problem with having a huge resource base is sometimes too many choices. Particularly when some of the talent in your local comp is foreign.

                                  His main issue is stagnation. It happened nearly everywhere he went - and really your head coach should be 3-4 years at most IMHO.

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                                  @NTA said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                  @No-Quarter said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                  @mariner4life said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                  @MajorRage said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                  Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.

                                  They really do have some cracking players.

                                  But god they are awful.

                                  this is standard Eddie Jones though isn't it? i feel like you hire him for 3 years maximum.

                                  Yep, I'm not sure what more people expect of Eddie? He specialises in one-off victories against the All Blacks

                                  Because it's all about you 🙄

                                  😉

                                  In his defence: Jones took a failed RWC2015 Test team and turned them around in pretty short order, which is his specialty. Grand Slam, two other 6N titles, undefeated in a calendar year. RWC final and a few wins on the trot against us as well.

                                  You could easily say he took the massive resources of RFU and just pointed it in the right direction, but that clearly wasn't as easy as first thought because England have underperformed so massively overall when you look at their results. The problem with having a huge resource base is sometimes too many choices. Particularly when some of the talent in your local comp is foreign.

                                  His main issue is stagnation. It happened nearly everywhere he went - and really your head coach should be 3-4 years at most IMHO

                                  And we're into our second decade with basically the same coach 😞

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                                  • NTAN NTA

                                    @No-Quarter said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                    @mariner4life said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                    @MajorRage said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                    Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.

                                    They really do have some cracking players.

                                    But god they are awful.

                                    this is standard Eddie Jones though isn't it? i feel like you hire him for 3 years maximum.

                                    Yep, I'm not sure what more people expect of Eddie? He specialises in one-off victories against the All Blacks

                                    Because it's all about you 🙄

                                    😉

                                    In his defence: Jones took a failed RWC2015 Test team and turned them around in pretty short order, which is his specialty. Grand Slam, two other 6N titles, undefeated in a calendar year. RWC final and a few wins on the trot against us as well.

                                    You could easily say he took the massive resources of RFU and just pointed it in the right direction, but that clearly wasn't as easy as first thought because England have underperformed so massively overall when you look at their results. The problem with having a huge resource base is sometimes too many choices. Particularly when some of the talent in your local comp is foreign.

                                    His main issue is stagnation. It happened nearly everywhere he went - and really your head coach should be 3-4 years at most IMHO.

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                                    @NTA said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                    In his defence: Jones took a failed RWC2015 Test team and turned them around in pretty short order, which is his specialty. Grand Slam, two other 6N titles, undefeated in a calendar year. RWC final and a few wins on the trot against us as well.

                                    There's a view which says Eddie is great at taking on a team on the cusp and riding to glory on the back of his predecessors hard work.

                                    His main issue is stagnation. It happened nearly everywhere he went - and really your head coach should be 3-4 years at most IMHO.

                                    He's had plenty of quality players to pick from but just seems incapable of developing them much once they come into his squad. Often he has the opposite effect which is worse than stagnation.

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                                      Has anyone asked that squealy kid from reddit to update his hot take on England winning the RWC after that performance?

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                                        Has anyone asked that squealy kid from reddit to update his hot take on England winning the RWC after that performance?

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                                        @antipodean said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                        squealy kid from reddit

                                        fuuuuck the rugby reddit makes this place look like a meeting between Graham Henry, Wayne Smith, Fred Allen and Rod McQueen.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @MajorRage said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                          Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.

                                          They really do have some cracking players.

                                          But god they are awful.

                                          this is standard Eddie Jones though isn't it? i feel like you hire him for 3 years maximum.

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                                          @mariner4life said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                          @MajorRage said in Australia v England - 1st Test:

                                          Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.

                                          They really do have some cracking players.

                                          But god they are awful.

                                          this is standard Eddie Jones though isn't it? i feel like you hire him for 3 years maximum.

                                          Yep. He's great at lifting a team up then working out a game plan for them to specialise on which yields strong results.

                                          I think his downfall is not moving on quick enough from said game plan. I think he's one of the great rugby brains, but just doesn't seem to have the ability to adapt a team more than once.

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