All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
In this interview Paul O'Connell says that Hooker Dave Heffernan is out this week with concussion. They will miss him, he was outstanding for them on Saturday.
Think you’re mixing up your hookers there. Sheehan was the starting hooker and he was very good.
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
In this interview Paul O'Connell says that Hooker Dave Heffernan is out this week with concussion. They will miss him, he was outstanding for them on Saturday.
Think you’re mixing up your hookers there. Sheehan was the starting hooker and he was very good.
Yeah Sheehan was by far and away the best in green. Did you notice, along with all his tackles, and runs, that he was the one that brought down Reece over the try line - that's guts and speed for a hooker
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
In this interview Paul O'Connell says that Hooker Dave Heffernan is out this week with concussion. They will miss him, he was outstanding for them on Saturday.
Think you’re mixing up your hookers there. Sheehan was the starting hooker and he was very good.
@Billy-Tell Oh yeah Sheehan it was that I was thinking of. He was Irelands best player I thought. I'm glad that we'll get to see him again this week.
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we/he is lucky, id be furious is someone did that to us, pretty in the side , no arms and to the shoulder/neck area
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we/he is lucky, id be furious is someone did that to us, pretty in the side , no arms and to the shoulder/neck area
@Kiwiwomble yep. Such a low percentage play too. Still a dumb player at times.
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i still don't understand how he wasn't penalised for in the side
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i still don't understand how he wasn't penalised for in the side
@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
i still don't understand how he wasn't penalised for in the side
I thought he was. He was definitely penalised for it.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
i still don't understand how he wasn't penalised for in the side
I thought he was. He was definitely penalised for it.
@antipodean said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
i still don't understand how he wasn't penalised for in the side
I thought he was. He was definitely penalised for it.
okay my bad
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
i still don't understand how he wasn't penalised for in the side
I thought he was. He was definitely penalised for it.
@antipodean thats right, he played advantage and they had a couple of cracks at the line over a few phases then went back.
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we/he is lucky, id be furious is someone did that to us, pretty in the side , no arms and to the shoulder/neck area
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
we/he is lucky, id be furious is someone did that to us, pretty in the side , no arms and to the shoulder/neck area
I would actually describe not having one of our meathead players punished for a meathead act in an 80th+(?) minute of a comfortable win - as bad luck.
I just know that karma will catch-up with that, at a much worse time .... Or a less mystical explanation: "meathead no learn".
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the more i look at that still the angrier i get
fucking why Scott? you're no chance to turn it over. It's just at best giving away a penalty in an attempt to hurt someone, at worst old mate doesn't duck and you've got another red to add to the collection.
look at the technique FFS, he's at full stretch just after contact, so even if he's from teh back he's in no position to drive once he wins contact. There is nothing good there at all.
This is coming up in review.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
we/he is lucky, id be furious is someone did that to us, pretty in the side , no arms and to the shoulder/neck area
I would actually describe not having one of our meathead players punished for a meathead act in an 80th+(?) minute of a comfortable win - as bad luck.
I just know that karma will catch-up with that, at a much worse time .... Or a less mystical explanation: "meathead no learn".
@Rapido yeah, "lucky" wasn't really the right word
one day i would love for a coach to have the nuts to come out and say...."we didn't like it and so are standing him down for a week"
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i still don't understand how he wasn't penalised for in the side
@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
i still don't understand how he wasn't penalised for in the side
He actually didn't come in from side, that icture is rubbish, as that's where he ended up. I must be old, butFFS if that a card it's time to pack game in, it was and even in picture clearly shoulder on shoulder contact, and if you can't do that you can't clear out at ruck/maul.
And why would you do it, the same reason as you hit most rucks scrums etc etc etc, even when other team has it, to make tha ball as messy as possible. I not being rude, but thank f*** you fellas never played in teams with me or teams I coached, if you think going passive when opposition got ball!! -
@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
i still don't understand how he wasn't penalised for in the side
He actually didn't come in from side, that icture is rubbish, as that's where he ended up. I must be old, butFFS if that a card it's time to pack game in, it was and even in picture clearly shoulder on shoulder contact, and if you can't do that you can't clear out at ruck/maul.
And why would you do it, the same reason as you hit most rucks scrums etc etc etc, even when other team has it, to make tha ball as messy as possible. I not being rude, but thank f*** you fellas never played in teams with me or teams I coached, if you think going passive when opposition got ball!!@Dan54 said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
i still don't understand how he wasn't penalised for in the side
He actually didn't come in from side, that icture is rubbish, as that's where he ended up. I must be old, butFFS if that a card it's time to pack game in, it was and even in picture clearly shoulder on shoulder contact, and if you can't do that you can't clear out at ruck/maul.
And why would you do it, the same reason as you hit most rucks scrums etc etc etc, even when other team has it, to make tha ball as messy as possible. I not being rude, but thank f*** you fellas never played in teams with me or teams I coached, if you think going passive when opposition got ball!!I thought the point was more 'if you're going to do something, do it properly/well'. I think most of us increasingly aging posters on here once played in the days of rucking, so I doubt there are many strangers to aggressive play posting.
And in reciprocity, I suspect in the days that you played and coached, there weren't 20-odd cameras at the ground, tough rules around head contact, nor a feral and parochial social media highlighting every last event and non-event. The intent I get, but it was pretty low percentage execution.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
i still don't understand how he wasn't penalised for in the side
He actually didn't come in from side, that icture is rubbish, as that's where he ended up. I must be old, butFFS if that a card it's time to pack game in, it was and even in picture clearly shoulder on shoulder contact, and if you can't do that you can't clear out at ruck/maul.
And why would you do it, the same reason as you hit most rucks scrums etc etc etc, even when other team has it, to make tha ball as messy as possible. I not being rude, but thank f*** you fellas never played in teams with me or teams I coached, if you think going passive when opposition got ball!!@Dan54 i very much disagree, here are the 2 frames before, pretty clear to me he's not coming through the middle and i would say he was offside in general, should be back on the line
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
i still don't understand how he wasn't penalised for in the side
He actually didn't come in from side, that icture is rubbish, as that's where he ended up. I must be old, butFFS if that a card it's time to pack game in, it was and even in picture clearly shoulder on shoulder contact, and if you can't do that you can't clear out at ruck/maul.
And why would you do it, the same reason as you hit most rucks scrums etc etc etc, even when other team has it, to make tha ball as messy as possible. I not being rude, but thank f*** you fellas never played in teams with me or teams I coached, if you think going passive when opposition got ball!!@Dan54 said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
i still don't understand how he wasn't penalised for in the side
He actually didn't come in from side, that icture is rubbish, as that's where he ended up. I must be old, butFFS if that a card it's time to pack game in, it was and even in picture clearly shoulder on shoulder contact, and if you can't do that you can't clear out at ruck/maul.
And why would you do it, the same reason as you hit most rucks scrums etc etc etc, even when other team has it, to make tha ball as messy as possible. I not being rude, but thank f*** you fellas never played in teams with me or teams I coached, if you think going passive when opposition got ball!!oh shut up Dan
I've just watched it, he absolutely came in the side. You old fuck, learn about the gate.
"going passive" jesus christ really? why didn't he just ruck a few dudes too. You know, that used to be totally okay 30 years ago as well
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i'll go a step further, if he was anywhere near clearing out legally he'd be clearing the irish 7!
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actually you know the worst bit about it? We are right on our line, Scotty Boy sets himself as the pillar defender, and then abandons it to dive in the side of the ruck. It did not cost us, but that is a bit hole inside Ta'avao now
