All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test
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@booboo said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Machpants ive 100% seen a card for "deliberate knock down/on"...and it it wasn't even down, NPC game a couple of years ago, the Otago player reaches and pops the ball up...flys well out of his reach...runs and dives to regather but misses, yellow card, didn't have realistic chance of successfully intercepting
Just noting, as above, "down" is not illegal. Forward/on ... yes.
Become a thing because of wrong words in commentary.
I think some at least use down as I did…only becomes a problem when it hits the ground or someone else, you can knock the ball forward…and regather it with no issue
️@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@booboo said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Machpants ive 100% seen a card for "deliberate knock down/on"...and it it wasn't even down, NPC game a couple of years ago, the Otago player reaches and pops the ball up...flys well out of his reach...runs and dives to regather but misses, yellow card, didn't have realistic chance of successfully intercepting
Just noting, as above, "down" is not illegal. Forward/on ... yes.
Become a thing because of wrong words in commentary.
I think some at least use down as I did…only becomes a problem when it hits the ground or someone else, you can knock the ball forward…and regather it with no issue
️True but that's not a knock on.
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@booboo I have it on good authority that my post was a wind up.
I would like to see the same starting lineup, assuming the same outs are out.
Given they packed PGS at no8, I would hope they give Sotutu a go off the bench instead.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@booboo I have it on good authority that my post was a wind up.
I would like to see the same starting lineup, assuming the same outs are out.
Given they packed PGS at no8, I would hope they give Sotutu a go off the bench instead.
I did get that ...
... assuming for half a second it's true...
Maybe I should have said
... assuming for half a second it could come true...
Sillier things have happened
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I'm going for NZ by 40+ after that shitehawkery last weekend.
Players going down like ninepins. Flying add-in players too late.
It's a shit-show from start to finish.
If Ireland manage to win a match from here, I promise never to visit NZ.@Derm-McCrum said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm going for NZ by 40+ after that shitehawkery last weekend.
Players going down like ninepins. Flying add-in players too late.
It's a shit-show from start to finish.
If Ireland manage to win a match from here, I promise never to visit NZ.I can see you are hurting but Ireland were in it for large parts of the game and the 14 point turnaround by Reece's intercept/sexton injury really changed the flow of the game. The first Irish try was pure sex and they should have scored several more but were held up, knock ons etc.
Ireland had more possession and territory; they just need to be smarter with less errors and they can compete with the AB's. We will need to be on our game to win by that margin again.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
If SB is cited and found guilty there will have to be at least one change to the starting XV.
Lol nope. He's fine. What's a little head contact?
@NTA said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
If SB is cited and found guilty there will have to be at least one change to the starting XV.
Lol nope. He's fine. What's a little head contact?
What head contact?
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I'm going for NZ by 40+ after that shitehawkery last weekend.
Players going down like ninepins. Flying add-in players too late.
It's a shit-show from start to finish.
If Ireland manage to win a match from here, I promise never to visit NZ.@Derm-McCrum said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm going for NZ by 40+ after that shitehawkery last weekend.
Players going down like ninepins. Flying add-in players too late.
It's a shit-show from start to finish.
If Ireland manage to win a match from here, I promise never to visit NZ.Yeah held up over the line FIVE times, means the score certainly wasn’t indicative. Add in the mentioned intercept, plus Beaudies one too, I think the game will be close as, last time it was a DC drop goal, and the thrid will be the smashing.
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@Dan54 in that situation, it wasnt like a split second decision that he mis-timed and accidentally collected the guys head like so many of the cards we have seen this year...he was in an off side position, both his height and where he was attacking, he was always going to be hitting high on the opposition
Risk vs reward, which in that case, risk far outweighed the reward...but, he got lucky, lucky the Irish player ducked his head when he did, meaning nothing came of it.
I like him as a player, think he brings alot to the table, but he has cost us before, and it doesnt appear he has learnt a great deal, there is a fine line between controlled aggression and stupidity, he seems to be treading with a wide stance.
I hope he doesnt do it again, or worse still, cost us again.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Dan54 in that situation, it wasnt like a split second decision that he mis-timed and accidentally collected the guys head like so many of the cards we have seen this year...he was in an off side position, both his height and where he was attacking, he was always going to be hitting high on the opposition
Risk vs reward, which in that case, risk far outweighed the reward...but, he got lucky, lucky the Irish player ducked his head when he did, meaning nothing came of it.
I like him as a player, think he brings alot to the table, but he has cost us before, and it doesnt appear he has learnt a great deal, there is a fine line between controlled aggression and stupidity, he seems to be treading with a wide stance.
I hope he doesnt do it again, or worse still, cost us again.
I'm not sure if there is much of a duck, it just looks like Scott's contact makes his head fold in.
I think there is some head contact before hitting the shoulder, but I think the most dangerous part is how it ends up being like a crusher tackle. You can see Scott's weight on top of O'Mahony's head/neck which jams his head in. Not surprised when O'Mahony gets up he clutches the back of his neck a couple of times.
Add in the no arms, offside and coming from the side, and it's just all round silly.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Dan54 in that situation, it wasnt like a split second decision that he mis-timed and accidentally collected the guys head like so many of the cards we have seen this year...he was in an off side position, both his height and where he was attacking, he was always going to be hitting high on the opposition
Risk vs reward, which in that case, risk far outweighed the reward...but, he got lucky, lucky the Irish player ducked his head when he did, meaning nothing came of it.
I like him as a player, think he brings alot to the table, but he has cost us before, and it doesnt appear he has learnt a great deal, there is a fine line between controlled aggression and stupidity, he seems to be treading with a wide stance.
I hope he doesnt do it again, or worse still, cost us again.
I'm not sure if there is much of a duck, it just looks like Scott's contact makes his head fold in.
I think there is some head contact before hitting the shoulder, but I think the most dangerous part is how it ends up being like a crusher tackle. You can see Scott's weight on top of O'Mahony's head/neck which jams his head in. Not surprised when O'Mahony gets up he clutches the back of his neck a couple of times.
Add in the no arms, offside and coming from the side, and it's just all round silly.
@Dice said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Dan54 in that situation, it wasnt like a split second decision that he mis-timed and accidentally collected the guys head like so many of the cards we have seen this year...he was in an off side position, both his height and where he was attacking, he was always going to be hitting high on the opposition
Risk vs reward, which in that case, risk far outweighed the reward...but, he got lucky, lucky the Irish player ducked his head when he did, meaning nothing came of it.
I like him as a player, think he brings alot to the table, but he has cost us before, and it doesnt appear he has learnt a great deal, there is a fine line between controlled aggression and stupidity, he seems to be treading with a wide stance.
I hope he doesnt do it again, or worse still, cost us again.
I'm not sure if there is much of a duck, it just looks like Scott's contact makes his head fold in.
I think there is some head contact before hitting the shoulder, but I think most dangerous part is how it ends up being like a crusher tackle. You can see Scott's weight on top of O'Mahony's head/neck which jams his head in. Not surprised when O'Mahony gets up he clutches the back of his neck a couple of times.
Add in the no arms, offside and coming from the side, and it's just all round silly.
as i said before, i'd be pretty annoyed if someone did that to us
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what. a. Dumb fluffybunny.
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surely we have someone young and up and coming to replace Vaa'i...what does Tuipulotu bring to the table when we're building towards the next world cup
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surely we have someone young and up and coming to replace Vaa'i...what does Tuipulotu bring to the table when we're building towards the next world cup
@Kiwiwomble The young up and comers are Vaai and Lord. Pari Pari is probably another (injured).
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@Kiwiwomble The young up and comers are Vaai and Lord. Pari Pari is probably another (injured).
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Kiwiwomble The young up and comers are Vaai and Lord. Pari Pari is probably another (injured).
The Canterbury lock Gallagher looked good from what I saw of him.
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@Kiwiwomble The young up and comers are Vaai and Lord. Pari Pari is probably another (injured).
@KiwiMurph they've shown theyer going to esy the youngs guys in so why not identify the next young guys, just dont see the logic in replacing a youngs guys with an "old" one
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@KiwiMurph they've shown theyer going to esy the youngs guys in so why not identify the next young guys, just dont see the logic in replacing a youngs guys with an "old" one
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@Kiwiwomble "Experience".
@Stargazer said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Kiwiwomble "Experience".
....but we didn;t feel we needed that spot to be filled with much experience before
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Kiwiwomble The young up and comers are Vaai and Lord. Pari Pari is probably another (injured).
The Canterbury lock Gallagher looked good from what I saw of him.
@Frank said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Kiwiwomble The young up and comers are Vaai and Lord. Pari Pari is probably another (injured).
The Canterbury lock Gallagher looks good in what what I saw of him.
He's 20 years old. I'm a fan but let's not rush him in too early. He could be a great candidate for the All Black XV at the end of the year.
I'm not a huge fan of Tuipulotu as an AB but I can see the logic in this situation where you are coming in halfway through test week 2 of a 3 match series.
