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All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test

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  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

    Whitelock is a big out for us given his high tackle rate and the fact heโ€™s an 80 minute player. Assuming Ioane is still out I think we have to play Papaliโ€™i at 6 as a high workrate option.

    Although I wonder if Fozzie is thinking of throwing Patty T straight into the starting lineup and leaving Barrett at blindside. Get 40-50 minutes out of Patty T and then bring on the impact?

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    @ACT-Crusader Pat T & Brodie...yikes.

    But yeah, this probably forces some shuffling in the lock / loosie dept.

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    • NepiaN Nepia

      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @Nepia Grace would be prepping for the Maori match and given they are down south they just need someone to run so went with a local that knows the stuff to run against the starters.

      Dickson is in the same boat with the Maori. And for the local, I covered that with the part local MMT. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      I actually wouldn't be surprised if he was selected to start at 6 this week. Angry yep.

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      @Nepia said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @Nepia Grace would be prepping for the Maori match and given they are down south they just need someone to run so went with a local that knows the stuff to run against the starters.

      Dickson is in the same boat with the Maori. And for the local, I covered that with the part local MMT. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      I actually wouldn't be surprised if he was selected to start at 6 this week. Angry yep.

      I think Big Peter Gus will be starting now.

      But, if something happens to him in the next few days - and assuming Akira's foot isn't 100% then Shannon is another big body and familiar with the systems.

      So, "training with the squad but not part of it".

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        Whitelock nearly took out Retallick with friendly fire to his eye, so it could have been much worse.

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          In another twist, Dickson, who represented the New Zealand Mฤori against Ireland in their victory in Hamilton last week, is training with his phone on as his wife is expecting their child.

          I wonder whether the MABs have brought in an extra lock as cover for Dickon?

          https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/07/05/more-disruptions-for-all-blacks-as-sam-whitelock-ruled-out/

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            Whitelock nearly took out Retallick with friendly fire to his eye, so it could have been much worse.

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            @Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

            Whitelock nearly took out Retallick with friendly fire to his eye, so it could have been much worse.

            ...especially if Scott was banned for six weeks!!! ๐Ÿ™‚

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              Since Sam is out, Scott needs to move back into lock. Patty T coming back from Japan should be slimmer and fitter than when he left which should help his ability to get around the park for 25-30mins if required.

              If Akira's foot precludes him, I'd expect they'll look to have a backrow of Gus, Cane, Ardie.

              None of this is ideal, we seem to be doing our best to give Ireland more than a fighting chance.

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @Nepia said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                @Nepia Grace would be prepping for the Maori match and given they are down south they just need someone to run so went with a local that knows the stuff to run against the starters.

                Dickson is in the same boat with the Maori. And for the local, I covered that with the part local MMT. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                I actually wouldn't be surprised if he was selected to start at 6 this week. Angry yep.

                I think Big Peter Gus will be starting now.

                But, if something happens to him in the next few days - and assuming Akira's foot isn't 100% then Shannon is another big body and familiar with the systems.

                So, "training with the squad but not part of it".

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                @Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                @Nepia said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                @Nepia Grace would be prepping for the Maori match and given they are down south they just need someone to run so went with a local that knows the stuff to run against the starters.

                Dickson is in the same boat with the Maori. And for the local, I covered that with the part local MMT. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                I actually wouldn't be surprised if he was selected to start at 6 this week. Angry yep.

                I think Big Peter Gus will be starting now.

                But, if something happens to him in the next few days - and assuming Akira's foot isn't 100% then Shannon is another big body and familiar with the systems.

                So, "training with the squad but not part of it".

                I don't think being a big body and familiar with the systems really matters if your boy is hopeless at using his big body and is average within in the system.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  In another twist, Dickson, who represented the New Zealand Mฤori against Ireland in their victory in Hamilton last week, is training with his phone on as his wife is expecting their child.

                  I wonder whether the MABs have brought in an extra lock as cover for Dickon?

                  https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/07/05/more-disruptions-for-all-blacks-as-sam-whitelock-ruled-out/

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                  @Stargazer Who? MSR would start with Hicks on the bench.

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                    Given the way Fozzie was talking last week I'd say it's more likely Papalii is at 6 and Sowakula is on the bench (Sowakula came on at 8 didn't he?). I'd like to see PGS get a crack at 6 though.

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                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                      In breaking news, Caneโ€™s injury from earlier this season has flared up and heโ€™s been ruled out, Whitelock has caught COVID, Ardie has symptoms - Scott Barrett has been named AB captain

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                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                      In breaking news, Caneโ€™s injury from earlier this season has flared up and heโ€™s been ruled out, Whitelock has caught COVID, Ardie has symptoms - Scott Barrett has been named AB captain

                      You can piss off too, Nostradamus!

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @Kiwiwomble The young up and comers are Vaai and Lord. Pari Pari is probably another (injured).

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                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                        @Kiwiwomble The young up and comers are Vaai and Lord. Pari Pari is probably another (injured).

                        MSR ... but "better people .."

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                        • boobooB booboo

                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                          @Kiwiwomble The young up and comers are Vaai and Lord. Pari Pari is probably another (injured).

                          MSR ... but "better people .."

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                          @booboo coughfrizellcough

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @Frank You're picking Gallagher above, but once Quinten was fit again for the Crusaders, Razor picked him as the bench lock for the Super final.

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                            @Chris-B eh.. strange looked promising two years ago, been plagued with Injuries since, Josh Dickson is currently in the best form of his career & won't look out of place if he's wearing 19 on Saturday๐Ÿคž

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                              @Nepia Grace would be prepping for the Maori match and given they are down south they just need someone to run so went with a local that knows the stuff to run against the starters.

                              Dickson is in the same boat with the Maori. And for the local, I covered that with the part local MMT. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                              I actually wouldn't be surprised if he was selected to start at 6 this week. Angry yep.

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                              @Nepia said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                              @Nepia Grace would be prepping for the Maori match and given they are down south they just need someone to run so went with a local that knows the stuff to run against the starters.

                              Dickson is in the same boat with the Maori. And for the local, I covered that with the part local MMT. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                              I actually wouldn't be surprised if he was selected to start at 6 this week. Angry yep.

                              Looks like Dickson is at home on baby watch!

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                @Nepia Grace would be prepping for the Maori match and given they are down south they just need someone to run so went with a local that knows the stuff to run against the starters.

                                Dickson is in the same boat with the Maori. And for the local, I covered that with the part local MMT. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                I actually wouldn't be surprised if he was selected to start at 6 this week. Angry yep.

                                Looks like Dickson is at home on baby watch!

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                                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                @Nepia Grace would be prepping for the Maori match and given they are down south they just need someone to run so went with a local that knows the stuff to run against the starters.

                                Dickson is in the same boat with the Maori. And for the local, I covered that with the part local MMT. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                I actually wouldn't be surprised if he was selected to start at 6 this week. Angry yep.

                                Looks like Dickson is at home on baby watch!

                                That is handy for him and the excuses for Shannon. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  Given the way Fozzie was talking last week I'd say it's more likely Papalii is at 6 and Sowakula is on the bench (Sowakula came on at 8 didn't he?). I'd like to see PGS get a crack at 6 though.

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                                  @KiwiMurph yep. I canโ€™t see PGS starting unless we lost maybe one, possibly two others.

                                  I think he packed at number 8 on that one attacking scrum where he scored and had Papaliโ€™i on the blind and Ardie on the openside.

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                                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                                    Since Sam is out, Scott needs to move back into lock. Patty T coming back from Japan should be slimmer and fitter than when he left which should help his ability to get around the park for 25-30mins if required.

                                    If Akira's foot precludes him, I'd expect they'll look to have a backrow of Gus, Cane, Ardie.

                                    None of this is ideal, we seem to be doing our best to give Ireland more than a fighting chance.

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                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                    None of this is ideal

                                    Now imagine if Aaron Smith goes down ๐Ÿ˜

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                      None of this is ideal

                                      Now imagine if Aaron Smith goes down ๐Ÿ˜

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                      None of this is ideal

                                      Now imagine if Aaron Smith goes down ๐Ÿ˜

                                      Do you mind not doing any more crystal ball gazing? ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                        None of this is ideal

                                        Now imagine if Aaron Smith goes down ๐Ÿ˜

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                        None of this is ideal

                                        Now imagine if Aaron Smith goes down ๐Ÿ˜

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                                        • GrooterG Grooter

                                          @Chris-B eh.. strange looked promising two years ago, been plagued with Injuries since, Josh Dickson is currently in the best form of his career & won't look out of place if he's wearing 19 on Saturday๐Ÿคž

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                                          @FakatavaAllBlack Yeah - every time he gets an opportunity to have a run of starts for the Crusaders, he gets injured himself.

                                          Quinten can play though - and he's got a hard edge to him. He won't jump over Dickson this week as cover, but "he won't be far away".

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