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All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test

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  • chimoausC Offline
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    I gotta say the WC next year will be the most competitive yet. Ireland and France may finally join the club.

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      Gregor Paul sums it all up nicely.

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      • MajorPomM MajorPom

        Complete fucking thumping.

        End of the legacy, end of the dynasty.

        Lost to the argies, owned by the Irish, just terrible.

        Foster & the whole team MUST be sacked. MUST be.

        Cane. Your time is up too mate. Sorry.

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        @MajorRage said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

        Complete fucking thumping.

        End of the legacy, end of the dynasty.

        Lost to the argies, owned by the Irish, just terrible.

        Foster & the whole team MUST be sacked. MUST be.

        Cane. Your time is up too mate. Sorry.

        Takes 100 years to build a legacy. Takes one term of Foster to shred it 🙈

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        • antipodeanA antipodean

          The level of skill deficit makes this All Blacks team unrecognisable from the highlights of the last 20 years. Passes to no one, if the pass does by some miracle go to the intended recipient, they'll drop it as often as catch it. There's no bodies in motion so it makes no difference if we have Aaron Smith throwing passes or Quentin Kenihan.

          Ireland knew we'd be playing wider off the ruck and simply had another player come forward so we weren't attacking the fold. No pick and goes to keep them tighter. Our kicking game is dreadful because our chase is non-existent.

          And then the crowning turd in the water pipe is attempting low percentage plays to make a difference, only to cheaply hand back possession and territory.

          It's unfathomable that this is the result of professional coaching.

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          @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

          Ireland knew we'd be playing wider off the ruck and simply had another player come forward so we weren't attacking the fold. No pick and goes to keep them tighter. Our kicking game is dreadful because our chase is non-existent.

          So the exact same failings as end of year tour last year.

          But I thought it was because we were 'tired'.....

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          • CanerbryC Canerbry

            @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

            @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

            Ireland has done us a favour.
            Test rugby has always been about the team that makes the less mistakes wins. As a person who experienced test rugby in the 70s (can't remember much to be honest), the 80s, 90s up to now, the rugby that the ABs play now doesn't feel like test rugby. There is a lack of territorial awareness which means a lack of pragmatic kicking, they invite chaos near their line which more often than not has negative results, etc, etc.
            It is hard to explain but in the Foster era, they give it up too easily.

            We have no desire to play the territory game

            Because our 10 has a shit territory game.

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            @Canerbry said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

            @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

            @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

            Ireland has done us a favour.
            Test rugby has always been about the team that makes the less mistakes wins. As a person who experienced test rugby in the 70s (can't remember much to be honest), the 80s, 90s up to now, the rugby that the ABs play now doesn't feel like test rugby. There is a lack of territorial awareness which means a lack of pragmatic kicking, they invite chaos near their line which more often than not has negative results, etc, etc.
            It is hard to explain but in the Foster era, they give it up too easily.

            We have no desire to play the territory game

            Because our 10 has a shit territory game.

            It's not just on the player. It's our patterns and tactics

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              The level of skill deficit makes this All Blacks team unrecognisable from the highlights of the last 20 years. Passes to no one, if the pass does by some miracle go to the intended recipient, they'll drop it as often as catch it. There's no bodies in motion so it makes no difference if we have Aaron Smith throwing passes or Quentin Kenihan.

              Ireland knew we'd be playing wider off the ruck and simply had another player come forward so we weren't attacking the fold. No pick and goes to keep them tighter. Our kicking game is dreadful because our chase is non-existent.

              And then the crowning turd in the water pipe is attempting low percentage plays to make a difference, only to cheaply hand back possession and territory.

              It's unfathomable that this is the result of professional coaching.

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              @antipodean It kind of went to shit when Wayne Smith and that AFL skill coach left.

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              • DamoD Damo

                I don't rule out the possibility NZR might ask Foster to go. That was a pretty shambolic performance. A repeat next week and/or in the RC and Robertson might sweep in.

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                @Damo said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                I don't rule out the possibility NZR might ask Foster to go. That was a pretty shambolic performance. A repeat next week and/or in the RC and Robertson might sweep in.

                They have investors to keep happy now

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                  these commentators are superifical and shit. FFS.

                  They live The Fern motto

                  "Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight. Wrong about pretty much everything"

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                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                  @nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                  these commentators are superifical and shit. FFS.

                  They live The Fern motto

                  "Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight. Wrong about pretty much everything"

                  Difference is we get upvotes for all of that and they get none!

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                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                    @Canerbry said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                    I hate this

                    Innate to day the Crusaders team would be an improvement on this dross.

                    They would at least have been able to get the ball to Mo'unga and Jordan.

                    Mo'unga had 30 odd minutes and didn't do a fucking thing. Because our 10s aren't the problem, our coaching group is. Absolutely brainless performance, made all the worse as we have both Razor and Rennie, NZers, that would love to coach the ABs, and one is stuck in SR and the other we let go overseas. Picking Foster as the head coach after Hansen was fucking insane at the time, and after loses to Argentina and Ireland at home in amongst other dross served up by a talented group of players, is even more insane now in hindsight. Jobs for fucking mates and we're paying the price.

                    I'm not too worried about losing Rennie tbh, not saying he is a bad coach but he doesn't seem to have (so far) catalysed the Wallabies?

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                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                    @Canerbry said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                    I hate this

                    Innate to day the Crusaders team would be an improvement on this dross.

                    They would at least have been able to get the ball to Mo'unga and Jordan.

                    Mo'unga had 30 odd minutes and didn't do a fucking thing. Because our 10s aren't the problem, our coaching group is. Absolutely brainless performance, made all the worse as we have both Razor and Rennie, NZers, that would love to coach the ABs, and one is stuck in SR and the other we let go overseas. Picking Foster as the head coach after Hansen was fucking insane at the time, and after loses to Argentina and Ireland at home in amongst other dross served up by a talented group of players, is even more insane now in hindsight. Jobs for fucking mates and we're paying the price.

                    I'm not too worried about losing Rennie tbh, not saying he is a bad coach but he doesn't seem to have (so far) catalysed the Wallabies?

                    The Wallabies are showing signs of improving and building towards something. Might this be the year the ABs and Wallabies trajectories cross over?

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                      @Damo said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                      I don't rule out the possibility NZR might ask Foster to go. That was a pretty shambolic performance. A repeat next week and/or in the RC and Robertson might sweep in.

                      They have investors to keep happy now

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                      @stodders said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                      @Damo said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                      I don't rule out the possibility NZR might ask Foster to go. That was a pretty shambolic performance. A repeat next week and/or in the RC and Robertson might sweep in.

                      They have investors to keep happy now

                      I’ve not been a fan of it, but they could be the ones who will act in our best interest here.

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                        I would love to hear what AS and co really think of Foster. They would never say it but surely they would know having been under good coaches.

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                          Worst All Blacks Coach Ever.

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                          • chimoausC chimoaus

                            @antipodean It kind of went to shit when Wayne Smith and that AFL skill coach left.

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                            @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                            @antipodean It kind of went to shit when Wayne Smith and that AFL skill coach left.

                            As Squidge Rugby said in his video about the first test: the All Blacks game plan is basically centred around individual brilliance and having better skills than everyone else.

                            Doesn't always work

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                            • chimoausC chimoaus

                              @MN5 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                              ‘The guys hung in there and did really well’

                              What the actual fuck Foster ? Are you hearing what you’re saying ?

                              He's blind to his own failings and that will always be an issue.

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                              @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                              @MN5 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                              ‘The guys hung in there and did really well’

                              What the actual fuck Foster ? Are you hearing what you’re saying ?

                              He's blind to his own failings and that will always be an issue.

                              This is why he needs to be fired, he won't walk. But NZRFU are into accountability right now as much as NZC. Dark days for NZ sports fans

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                              • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                Worst All Blacks Coach Ever.

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                                @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                Worst All Blacks Coach Ever.

                                Let’s be fair, worst coaching team. I don’t even think Foster is the worst on the team. They have Mooar remember.

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                                  @Damo said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                  I don't rule out the possibility NZR might ask Foster to go. That was a pretty shambolic performance. A repeat next week and/or in the RC and Robertson might sweep in.

                                  They have investors to keep happy now

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                                  @stodders said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                  @Damo said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                  I don't rule out the possibility NZR might ask Foster to go. That was a pretty shambolic performance. A repeat next week and/or in the RC and Robertson might sweep in.

                                  They have investors to keep happy now

                                  Investors will be happy. Interest in playing the ABs has skyrocketed as tier 1 and tier 2 teams sense their opportunity….

                                  Investors will be laughing all the way to the bank

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                                    @MajorRage said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                    Complete fucking thumping.

                                    End of the legacy, end of the dynasty.

                                    Lost to the argies, owned by the Irish, just terrible.

                                    Foster & the whole team MUST be sacked. MUST be.

                                    Cane. Your time is up too mate. Sorry.

                                    Takes 100 years to build a legacy. Takes one term of Foster to shred it 🙈

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                                    @stodders said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                    Takes 100 years to build a legacy. Takes one term of Foster to shred it 🙈

                                    We haven't lost to the World XV yet like Mains. Those were truely dark days.

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                                      We've now lost four of the last six tests. Dump these clown coaches, and chop the deadwood from the team.

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                                      • DamoD Damo

                                        I don't rule out the possibility NZR might ask Foster to go. That was a pretty shambolic performance. A repeat next week and/or in the RC and Robertson might sweep in.

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                                        @Damo said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                        I don't rule out the possibility NZR might ask Foster to go. That was a pretty shambolic performance. A repeat next week and/or in the RC and Robertson might sweep in.

                                        Schmidt is already in the system, might agree to an interim head coach role. NZR could see this a way to save a little face.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          We've now lost four of the last six tests. Dump these clown coaches, and chop the deadwood from the team.

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                                          @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                          We've now lost four of the last six tests. Dump these clown coaches, and chop the deadwood from the team.

                                          Shit when you put it like that it's pretty fucken bad. Worst since 98?

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