All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test

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@stodders said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@Frank said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

and chop the deadwood from the team.

Which players are deadwood in your opinion?

Ofa.
Taylor.
Sowakula.
Retallick.
Leicester.

Leicester had a bad night. Happens early in test career. He'll be ok. Same with Sowakula.

Older ABs are creaking

Trouble is QT, LF, PGS collectively made a number of mistakes. We needed them to hold the ball. Make their tackles etc. Test Match rugby requires less mistakes. Don’t think it was good enough.

[Bovidae]

It's ironic that the one prop (Bower) who many were questioning his inclusion in the squad has been easily the best of them. TH remains the big problem. Time for an injection of youth.

[JayCee]

@Tim you're missing out Italy and the US

[stodders]

@nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

christ I'm really pissed off.

Foster, Mooar and McLeod can fuck off. They aren't a coach's arsehole. We've seen it for some time, this is the red card that highlights the lack of quality coaching. These guys are idiots;

Rope in any decent coach, grab Henry Hansen and Schmidt as advisers, and win some fucking test matches.

Nervous about the Aussies right now.

Hansen told NZRU to select Foster. How exactly do you think he would get the coaching team to change?

[Tim]

@JayCee said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

Italy and the US

Tier 2 doesn't count. Wales were included.

[stodders]

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

We've now lost four of the last six tests. Dump these clown coaches, and chop the deadwood from the team.

That’s terrible…if it were true

It’s 4 of the last 7 against Ireland. That includes tonight.

Dunedin 2022 - Ireland
Auckland 2022 - ABs
Dublin 2021 - Ireland
Yokohama 2019 - ABs
Dublin 2018 - Ireland
Dublin 2016 - ABs
Chicago 2016 - Ireland

So based on that pattern, we win next week

If ABs lose the series, is that the "fall on the sword" moment for Foster?

[chimoaus]

@JayCee said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@Tim you're missing out Italy and the US

Because they are tier 2 nations

[nzzp]

@stodders said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

We've now lost four of the last six tests. Dump these clown coaches, and chop the deadwood from the team.

That’s terrible…if it were true

It’s 4 of the last 7 against Ireland. That includes tonight.

Dunedin 2022 - Ireland
Auckland 2022 - ABs
Dublin 2021 - Ireland
Yokohama 2019 - ABs
Dublin 2018 - Ireland
Dublin 2016 - ABs
Chicago 2016 - Ireland

So based on that pattern, we win next week

If ABs lose the series, is that the "fall on the sword" moment for Foster?

ha ha ha ha yeah right

[Victor Meldrew]

@gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@stodders said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@Frank Taylor, Retallick, Cane.

Ha ha, snap.
Maybe Stuart Barnes was right about Cane

I love him, but he just looks slow.

He’s working his ass off, but he’s not impactful and won’t be a better player next year. It’s not that he’s a poor player, he’s just no longer the best 7 in the country.

He would be in the squad and he can help to develop Dalton, but he shouldn’t be captain and most likely shouldn’t be starting.

I rate him as an All Black and don't anyone else would do better as Captain, but I have to question his quality of play. Whether it's the balance of the loose trio or he's longer got it, he just doesn't have the impact he once did

[JayCee]

@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@JayCee said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@Tim you're missing out Italy and the US

Because they are tier 2 nations

I'll take these wins when I can these days.

[Bones]

@Victor-Meldrew Bower, Paps or Smith to captain.

[chimoaus]

If Foster doesn't resign now what happens if we lose to Oz and Sa in the Championship. At what point do they make a change.

[Chris]

@stodders said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

We've now lost four of the last six tests. Dump these clown coaches, and chop the deadwood from the team.

That’s terrible…if it were true

It’s 4 of the last 7 against Ireland. That includes tonight.

Dunedin 2022 - Ireland
Auckland 2022 - ABs
Dublin 2021 - Ireland
Yokohama 2019 - ABs
Dublin 2018 - Ireland
Dublin 2016 - ABs
Chicago 2016 - Ireland

So based on that pattern, we win next week

If ABs lose the series, is that the "fall on the sword" moment for Foster?

Nah we are stuck with Foster to after the WC even if we lose the series to Ireland lose to SA in SA and lose to the Wallabies.
Which all could happen.

[antipodean]

@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

If Foster doesn't resign now what happens if we lose to Oz and Sa in the Championship. At what point do they make a change.

[canefan]

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

If Foster doesn't resign now what happens if we lose to Oz and Sa in the Championship. At what point do they make a change.

Yup. Just kiss the RWC goodbye next year. Its done

[chimoaus]

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

If Foster doesn't resign now what happens if we lose to Oz and Sa in the Championship. At what point do they make a change.

Probably why Razor is in Fiji lining life and coaching the Barbarians later in the year.

[Donsteppa]

@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

If Foster doesn't resign now what happens if we lose to Oz and Sa in the Championship. At what point do they make a change.

Well, imagine how good we'll be next week once Foster has had two whole weeks running the squad...

[Chris]

@canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

If Foster doesn't resign now what happens if we lose to Oz and Sa in the Championship. At what point do they make a change.

Yup. Just kiss the RWC goodbye next year. Its done

We should not even turn up and save the embarrassment.

[Victor Meldrew]

@stodders said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

If ABs lose the series, is that the "fall on the sword" moment for Foster?

You would hope that there would be some serious thinking going on. But after the Ardie sub fuck-up tonight, I'm not so sure.

Maybe Sam, being a decent bloke, will step down as captain and that might spark some change

[canefan]

@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

If Foster doesn't resign now what happens if we lose to Oz and Sa in the Championship. At what point do they make a change.

Yup. Just kiss the RWC goodbye next year. Its done

We should not even turn up and save the embarrassment.

We're not turning up to games right now!