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All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test

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    Out of curiosity are the midfield bombs where we gift possession to the opposite team a tactic or does BB and AS really think it's a good idea?

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    • canefanC canefan

      @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

      If Foster doesn't resign now what happens if we lose to Oz and Sa in the Championship. At what point do they make a change.

      Yup. Just kiss the RWC goodbye next year. Its done

      We should not even turn up and save the embarrassment.

      We're not turning up to games right now!

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      @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

      If Foster doesn't resign now what happens if we lose to Oz and Sa in the Championship. At what point do they make a change.

      Yup. Just kiss the RWC goodbye next year. Its done

      We should not even turn up and save the embarrassment.

      We're not turning up to games right now!

      That's the frustrating thing - we do turn up.

      And then, more often than not, we pack our bags and bugger off.

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      • M Mattasaurus

        BREAKING NEWS
        Kakapos are no long on their own as the most endangered species in NZ, Fozzie has inow joined the critically endangered species list.

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        @Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

        BREAKING NEWS
        Kakapos are no long on their own as the most endangered species in NZ, Fozzie has inow joined the critically endangered species list.

        But luckily, the Old Boys Club came to the rescue with a Jobs For the Boys card just in the nick of time for another season

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        • M Mattasaurus

          BREAKING NEWS
          Kakapos are no long on their own as the most endangered species in NZ, Fozzie has inow joined the critically endangered species list.

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          @Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

          BREAKING NEWS
          Kakapos are no long on their own as the most endangered species in NZ, Fozzie has inow joined the critically endangered species list.

          At least he won't starve to death.

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          • canefanC Away
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            canefan
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            #1450

            We had an amazing run. Between 2008 and 2018 we were the best team by miles. But like all good dynasties eventually they crumble as the quality of leadership declines. But we will rise anew from the ashes, we always do

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            • M Mattasaurus

              BREAKING NEWS
              Kakapos are no long on their own as the most endangered species in NZ, Fozzie has inow joined the critically endangered species list.

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              @Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

              BREAKING NEWS
              Kakapos are no long on their own as the most endangered species in NZ, Fozzie has inow joined the critically endangered species list.

              Sell any share in McDonalds & Burger King?

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              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                @gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                @stodders said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                @gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                @Frank Taylor, Retallick, Cane.

                Ha ha, snap.
                Maybe Stuart Barnes was right about Cane 🤔

                I love him, but he just looks slow.

                He’s working his ass off, but he’s not impactful and won’t be a better player next year. It’s not that he’s a poor player, he’s just no longer the best 7 in the country.

                He would be in the squad and he can help to develop Dalton, but he shouldn’t be captain and most likely shouldn’t be starting.

                I rate him as an All Black and don't anyone else would do better as Captain, but I have to question his quality of play. Whether it's the balance of the loose trio or he's longer got it, he just doesn't have the impact he once did

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                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                @gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                @stodders said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                @gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                @Frank Taylor, Retallick, Cane.

                Ha ha, snap.
                Maybe Stuart Barnes was right about Cane 🤔

                I love him, but he just looks slow.

                He’s working his ass off, but he’s not impactful and won’t be a better player next year. It’s not that he’s a poor player, he’s just no longer the best 7 in the country.

                He would be in the squad and he can help to develop Dalton, but he shouldn’t be captain and most likely shouldn’t be starting.

                I rate him as an All Black and don't anyone else would do better as Captain, but I have to question his quality of play. Whether it's the balance of the loose trio or he's longer got it, he just doesn't have the impact he once did

                Good post. I had a look at the stats and I’m reassessing my position. With a loosie down, its probably unfair to put it on Cane as his role is to be the worker of the group. That’s likely why having Paps paired with him doesn’t work, as Paps is basically bigger younger Sam Cane.

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                • canefanC canefan

                  We had an amazing run. Between 2008 and 2018 we were the best team by miles. But like all good dynasties eventually they crumble as the quality of leadership declines. But we will rise anew from the ashes, we always do

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                  @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                  We had an amazing run. Between 2008 and 2018 we were the best team by miles. But like all good dynasties eventually they crumble as the quality of leadership declines. But we will rise anew from the ashes, we always do

                  In the past, even our ashes still managed to keep records against Ireland and Argentina intact...

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                  • chimoausC chimoaus

                    Out of curiosity are the midfield bombs where we gift possession to the opposite team a tactic or does BB and AS really think it's a good idea?

                    canefanC Away
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                    canefan
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                    #1454

                    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                    Out of curiosity are the midfield bombs where we gift possession to the opposite team a tactic or does BB and AS really think it's a good idea?

                    It's team tactics. Has to be

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                    • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                      @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                      We had an amazing run. Between 2008 and 2018 we were the best team by miles. But like all good dynasties eventually they crumble as the quality of leadership declines. But we will rise anew from the ashes, we always do

                      In the past, even our ashes still managed to keep records against Ireland and Argentina intact...

                      canefanC Away
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                      canefan
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                      #1455

                      @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                      We had an amazing run. Between 2008 and 2018 we were the best team by miles. But like all good dynasties eventually they crumble as the quality of leadership declines. But we will rise anew from the ashes, we always do

                      In the past, even our ashes still managed to keep records against Ireland and Argentina intact...

                      The gap has closed to be fair

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        We had an amazing run. Between 2008 and 2018 we were the best team by miles. But like all good dynasties eventually they crumble as the quality of leadership declines. But we will rise anew from the ashes, we always do

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                        @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                        We had an amazing run. Between 2008 and 2018 we were the best team by miles. But like all good dynasties eventually they crumble as the quality of leadership declines. But we will rise anew from the ashes, we always do

                        I'm old enough to have seen this 2-3 times - just never as bad as this.

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                          Out of curiosity are the midfield bombs where we gift possession to the opposite team a tactic or does BB and AS really think it's a good idea?

                          It's team tactics. Has to be

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                          @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                          @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                          Out of curiosity are the midfield bombs where we gift possession to the opposite team a tactic or does BB and AS really think it's a good idea?

                          It's team tactics. Has to be

                          Is Ian Foster actually Leigh Hart in disguise?

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                          • canefanC canefan

                            @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                            Out of curiosity are the midfield bombs where we gift possession to the opposite team a tactic or does BB and AS really think it's a good idea?

                            It's team tactics. Has to be

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                            nzzp
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                            #1458

                            @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                            @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                            Out of curiosity are the midfield bombs where we gift possession to the opposite team a tactic or does BB and AS really think it's a good idea?

                            It's team tactics. Has to be

                            I'm still spitting about the 'taking the player past the ruck' calls. there's some made up shit in there

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                            • CanerbryC Canerbry

                              @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                              Ireland has done us a favour.
                              Test rugby has always been about the team that makes the less mistakes wins. As a person who experienced test rugby in the 70s (can't remember much to be honest), the 80s, 90s up to now, the rugby that the ABs play now doesn't feel like test rugby. There is a lack of territorial awareness which means a lack of pragmatic kicking, they invite chaos near their line which more often than not has negative results, etc, etc.
                              It is hard to explain but in the Foster era, they give it up too easily.

                              We have no desire to play the territory game

                              Because our 10 has a shit territory game.

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                              @Canerbry said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                              Ireland has done us a favour.
                              Test rugby has always been about the team that makes the less mistakes wins. As a person who experienced test rugby in the 70s (can't remember much to be honest), the 80s, 90s up to now, the rugby that the ABs play now doesn't feel like test rugby. There is a lack of territorial awareness which means a lack of pragmatic kicking, they invite chaos near their line which more often than not has negative results, etc, etc.
                              It is hard to explain but in the Foster era, they give it up too easily.

                              We have no desire to play the territory game

                              Because our 10 has a shit territory game.

                              Richie will be better next time.

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                We had an amazing run. Between 2008 and 2018 we were the best team by miles. But like all good dynasties eventually they crumble as the quality of leadership declines. But we will rise anew from the ashes, we always do

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                                @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                We had an amazing run. Between 2008 and 2018 we were the best team by miles. But like all good dynasties eventually they crumble as the quality of leadership declines. But we will rise anew from the ashes, we always do

                                Did you steal that from the Canes changing room?

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                                  Stargazer
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                                  Hey Fozzie

                                  https://twitter.com/OptaJonny/status/1545702544739278850

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                                  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                    Foster sounds about as inspiring as a Funeral Director.

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                                    @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                    Foster sounds about as inspiring as a Funeral Director.

                                    but less re-hearsed.

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                                      #1463

                                      On the Ardie sub who should they have picked to go off instead? They needed to take someone off for the scrum. Probably LF and play without a winger for the match?

                                      The standard move is to go without a loosie. I think Dalton was already off for the previous YC for that reason

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                                        Let's hope for some actual media scrutiny this week. A good start:

                                        https://twitter.com/marchintonffx/status/1545696511517790208

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          @Canerbry said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                          @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                          Ireland has done us a favour.
                                          Test rugby has always been about the team that makes the less mistakes wins. As a person who experienced test rugby in the 70s (can't remember much to be honest), the 80s, 90s up to now, the rugby that the ABs play now doesn't feel like test rugby. There is a lack of territorial awareness which means a lack of pragmatic kicking, they invite chaos near their line which more often than not has negative results, etc, etc.
                                          It is hard to explain but in the Foster era, they give it up too easily.

                                          We have no desire to play the territory game

                                          Because our 10 has a shit territory game.

                                          Richie will be better next time.

                                          Victor MeldrewV Offline
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                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                          @Canerbry said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                          @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                          Ireland has done us a favour.
                                          Test rugby has always been about the team that makes the less mistakes wins. As a person who experienced test rugby in the 70s (can't remember much to be honest), the 80s, 90s up to now, the rugby that the ABs play now doesn't feel like test rugby. There is a lack of territorial awareness which means a lack of pragmatic kicking, they invite chaos near their line which more often than not has negative results, etc, etc.
                                          It is hard to explain but in the Foster era, they give it up too easily.

                                          We have no desire to play the territory game

                                          Because our 10 has a shit territory game.

                                          Richie will be better next time.

                                          Wasn't that what was said last time?

                                          He's great at SR level, good when the AB's are in charge, has skills to burn but just doesn't seem able to take the final step.

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