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Australia v England - 2nd Test

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  • antipodeanA Online
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    Some of you are showing the same misunderstanding of the laws as the Australian commentators. It's a clear knock on with no reasonable prospect of being an intercept and hence falls into foul play territory.

    All he did was throw an arm into the path of the ball.

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    • Canes4lifeC Online
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      Aus need to score next.

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      • M Mackerzzzz

        That is not a deliberate knock on

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        @Mackerzzzz said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

        That is not a deliberate knock on

        Not by the definition in the English language,
        But yes, by the definition/interpretation of World Rugby.
        Amazed, but happy, that wasn't a Penalty Try.

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          Aus need to score next.

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          @Canes4life said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

          Aus need to score next.

          They need a red card to spark them up.

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            @Mackerzzzz said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

            That is not a deliberate knock on

            Going for an intercept by throwing one arm in the air whilst jumping, yeah nah. Easy YC when the attacking team are in the red zone.

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            @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

            @Mackerzzzz said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

            That is not a deliberate knock on

            Going for an intercept by throwing one arm in the air whilst jumping, yeah nah. Easy YC when the attacking team are in the red zone.

            So any failed interception is a deliberate knock on...
            I thought the rule was not slapping the ball in a downward motion

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @nzzp it’s not because he’s clearly going for the intercept.

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              @Canes4life said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

              @nzzp it’s not because he’s clearly going for the intercept.

              yep. But
              https://www.world.rugby/the-game/laws/law/11

              It is not an intentional knock-on if, in the act of trying to catch the ball, the player knocks on provided that there was a reasonable expectation that the player could gain possession.

              Jumping one hander = not a reasonable expectation.

              Whatever your opinion, the way the game is reffed these days it's a YC if there is an overlap

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              • antipodeanA Online
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                That looked high on Lolesio.

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                • M Mattasaurus

                  @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                  @Mackerzzzz said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                  That is not a deliberate knock on

                  Going for an intercept by throwing one arm in the air whilst jumping, yeah nah. Easy YC when the attacking team are in the red zone.

                  So any failed interception is a deliberate knock on...
                  I thought the rule was not slapping the ball in a downward motion

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                  @Mattasaurus said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                  @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                  @Mackerzzzz said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                  That is not a deliberate knock on

                  Going for an intercept by throwing one arm in the air whilst jumping, yeah nah. Easy YC when the attacking team are in the red zone.

                  So any failed interception is a deliberate knock on...
                  I thought the rule was not slapping the ball in a downward motion

                  No, you saw one from England in this very game.

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @Canes4life said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                    @nzzp it’s not because he’s clearly going for the intercept.

                    yep. But
                    https://www.world.rugby/the-game/laws/law/11

                    It is not an intentional knock-on if, in the act of trying to catch the ball, the player knocks on provided that there was a reasonable expectation that the player could gain possession.

                    Jumping one hander = not a reasonable expectation.

                    Whatever your opinion, the way the game is reffed these days it's a YC if there is an overlap

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                    @nzzp said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                    @Canes4life said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                    @nzzp it’s not because he’s clearly going for the intercept.

                    yep. But
                    https://www.world.rugby/the-game/laws/law/11

                    It is not an intentional knock-on if, in the act of trying to catch the ball, the player knocks on provided that there was a reasonable expectation that the player could gain possession.

                    Jumping one hander = not a reasonable expectation.

                    Whatever your opinion, the way the game is reffed these days it's a YC if there is an overlap

                    I can take that...

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      @Canes4life said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                      He’s going for the intercept ffs.

                      And failed

                      High reward, high risk

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                      #120

                      @MiketheSnow said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                      @Canes4life said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                      He’s going for the intercept ffs.

                      And failed

                      High reward, high risk

                      Exactly this.

                      If you said it's not a deliberate knock-on unless the player was actually trying to smack it without catching it then the offence wouldn't exist.

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        I don’t think so. He’s going for the intercept.

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                        @Canes4life said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                        I don’t think so. He’s going for the intercept.

                        Since when has it been ruled like that? 2012? That is a clear YC under these interpretations. Whether it should be or not is another question. If that wasn't a YC, then it would be hard for any deliberate knock to be a YC,

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                          Mattasaurus
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                          Excellent cover tackle

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                          • M Mattasaurus

                            @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                            @Mackerzzzz said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                            That is not a deliberate knock on

                            Going for an intercept by throwing one arm in the air whilst jumping, yeah nah. Easy YC when the attacking team are in the red zone.

                            So any failed interception is a deliberate knock on...
                            I thought the rule was not slapping the ball in a downward motion

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                            gibbon rib
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                            @Mattasaurus said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                            @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                            @Mackerzzzz said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                            That is not a deliberate knock on

                            Going for an intercept by throwing one arm in the air whilst jumping, yeah nah. Easy YC when the attacking team are in the red zone.

                            So any failed interception is a deliberate knock on...
                            I thought the rule was not slapping the ball in a downward motion

                            I think that was a furphy invented by Aussie commentators / coaches/ fans a couple of years back to justify their rage at not being given a knock-on when Nick Tompkins
                            knocked it down (and backwards)

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                              England's kicking much better than ours. Kicks into space and keeping Australia deep in their own half.

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                                Excellent tactics by England. Getting in behind the Oz defensive line with their ball carries and short kicking game.

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  How overrated is Tupou?

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                                  @antipodean said in Australia v England - 2nd Test:

                                  How overrated is Tupou?

                                  but the Aus media love him!

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                                    Is it me or is this boring as fuck?

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                                      #128

                                      This is a complete mauling by England so far. Could have two series deciders next week which will be great viewing.

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                                        Mattasaurus
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                                        Dumb penalty given away there... What was he thinking 🙄

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                                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                          Is it me or is this boring as fuck?

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                                          @MiketheSnow England are winning and you’re Welsh.

                                          😀

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