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All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider

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    Wholesale change would be a sign they are wrong

    So you can rule that out.

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      It's so hard to say much positive about many from last nights game..

      I feel Foster will largely rinse and repeat.
      For me it's playing three 7s that is strange... Paps was disappointing in 6 (I'm a fan of him in 7) and he wasn't alone in being disappointing... Lock is troubling... BBBR in his twilight, Patrick T didn't show me enough either... Brings me back to selections.,.. Would have been a perfect opportunity to blood someone like Josh Lord with the future in mind... But hey we know Fossie is not into developing player depth or a new game plan..

      I would be happy to see some changes in midfield... RI certainly worth persisting with at this stage.. But we really need to develop a solid combination in 12 13...quickly.

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        It's so hard to say much positive about many from last nights game..

        I feel Foster will largely rinse and repeat.
        For me it's playing three 7s that is strange... Paps was disappointing in 6 (I'm a fan of him in 7) and he wasn't alone in being disappointing... Lock is troubling... BBBR in his twilight, Patrick T didn't show me enough either... Brings me back to selections.,.. Would have been a perfect opportunity to blood someone like Josh Lord with the future in mind... But hey we know Fossie is not into developing player depth or a new game plan..

        I would be happy to see some changes in midfield... RI certainly worth persisting with at this stage.. But we really need to develop a solid combination in 12 13...quickly.

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        @Mattasaurus isn’t Lord injured?

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        • KirwanK Kirwan

          @Mattasaurus isn’t Lord injured?

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          @Kirwan said in ABs vs Ire - series decider:

          @Mattasaurus isn’t Lord injured?

          Oh I wasn't aware of that 👍

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            goodhue , laulala and clarke didnt warm up with team late night i think they were only ones.everyone else in squad were out there

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              @Kirwan said in ABs vs Ire - series decider:

              @Mattasaurus isn’t Lord injured?

              Oh I wasn't aware of that 👍

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              @Mattasaurus just looked it up, out for the rest of the ABs season this year. Bummer.

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              • KirwanK Kirwan

                @Mattasaurus just looked it up, out for the rest of the ABs season this year. Bummer.

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                @Kirwan said in ABs vs Ire - series decider:

                @Mattasaurus just looked it up, out for the rest of the ABs season this year. Bummer.

                Bugger...

                We certainly need more depth in the engine room. I can see SB cementing 6 if AI doesn't come back in and make it his (hope he does - but I'd like to see him play tighter than he did in SR)

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @Tim they said 12 days and was announced the Monday after wasnt it, so game day would be 12 days, so I'd say zero chance he plays unfortunately.

                  Bower, ST, Laulala
                  Barrett, Vaii
                  Akira, Sotutu, DP,
                  Smith, BB
                  Goodhue, Reiko
                  Reece, Jordie, Jordan

                  That'd be my starting 15, I suspect I'll be wrong by at least 5 players.

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                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Tim they said 12 days and was announced the Monday after wasnt it, so game day would be 12 days, so I'd say zero chance he plays unfortunately.

                  Bower, ST, Laulala
                  Barrett, Vaii
                  Akira, Sotutu, DP,
                  Smith, BB
                  Goodhue, Reiko
                  Reece, Jordie, Jordan

                  That'd be my starting 15, I suspect I'll be wrong by at least 5 players.

                  Savea best player in 1st test, DP anonymous in the 2nd. It’s like saying Frizzell was awesome in SR so he must make the starting XV. Has DP yet had a very good game for the ABs against proper opposition.

                  Provided Retallick and Vaai are fit I’d probably go SB again at 6, since he’s a jumper. Otherwise Akira.

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                    Sotutu has to be in the mix. PGS sadly has looked a bit overawed in both Tests off the bench.

                    Not sure if that would change if PGS was running on in the starting 15, but he's not (yet) good enough to warrant that.

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                      I mean the first Q is is Cane still captain? If yes he starts at 7. If not then who is captain (whitelock will be out)? If you keep cane then imo it’s SB at 6 and ardie at 8 and I’d have sotutu and akira on the bench (SB covering lock, dont want PT anywhere near the 23). If you dump your captain then I’d put ardie at 7, sotutu at 8 and akira and DP on the bench.

                      TBH I think the tactics are more of a problem. You can change the team but if it’s just midfield bombs and wide passes from AS then result will be the same.

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                        Foz has confirmed Clarke won't be fit.

                        So like Lord that's a second wasted spot in the original squad.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          Foz has confirmed Clarke won't be fit.

                          So like Lord that's a second wasted spot in the original squad.

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                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                          Foz has confirmed Clarke won't be fit.

                          So like Lord that's a second wasted spot in the original squad.

                          Also mentioned whitelock is a possibility, somehow

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            Foz has confirmed Clarke won't be fit.

                            So like Lord that's a second wasted spot in the original squad.

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                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            Foz has confirmed Clarke won't be fit.

                            So like Lord that's a second wasted spot in the original squad.

                            At least we got to have a look at Faingaanuku and he got to learn some harsh lessons. I can't see him repeating that performance.

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                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                              @Tim they said 12 days and was announced the Monday after wasnt it, so game day would be 12 days, so I'd say zero chance he plays unfortunately.

                              Bower, ST, Laulala
                              Barrett, Vaii
                              Akira, Sotutu, DP,
                              Smith, BB
                              Goodhue, Reiko
                              Reece, Jordie, Jordan

                              That'd be my starting 15, I suspect I'll be wrong by at least 5 players.

                              Savea best player in 1st test, DP anonymous in the 2nd. It’s like saying Frizzell was awesome in SR so he must make the starting XV. Has DP yet had a very good game for the ABs against proper opposition.

                              Provided Retallick and Vaai are fit I’d probably go SB again at 6, since he’s a jumper. Otherwise Akira.

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                              @Billy-Tell that us rhe team I'd pick.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                Foz has confirmed Clarke won't be fit.

                                So like Lord that's a second wasted spot in the original squad.

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                                @KiwiMurph Reece moves to left wing, Will from Harcourts starts on the right.

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                  Foz has confirmed Clarke won't be fit.

                                  So like Lord that's a second wasted spot in the original squad.

                                  Also mentioned whitelock is a possibility, somehow

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                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                  Foz has confirmed Clarke won't be fit.

                                  So like Lord that's a second wasted spot in the original squad.

                                  Also mentioned whitelock is a possibility, somehow

                                  Our turn to rush a player back in after a head knock out of desperation

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                                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    Foz has confirmed Clarke won't be fit.

                                    So like Lord that's a second wasted spot in the original squad.

                                    Also mentioned whitelock is a possibility, somehow

                                    Our turn to rush a player back in after a head knock out of desperation

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                                    @No-Quarter Worked for the Irish.

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                                      I think we'll go for something like this in Wellington:

                                      1. Bower
                                      2. ST
                                      3. Laulaula
                                      4. Rettalick
                                      5. Whitelock
                                      6. Barrett
                                      7. Cane (c)
                                      8. Savea
                                      9. Smith
                                      10. B Barrett
                                      11. Reece
                                      12. Tupaea
                                      13. Ioane
                                      14. Jordan
                                      15. J Barrett
                                      16. Coles
                                      17. Ross
                                      18. Tu'ungafasi
                                      19. Sotutu
                                      20. Papali'i
                                      21. Fakatava
                                      22. Mo'unga
                                      23. Goodhue
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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        I think we'll go for something like this in Wellington:

                                        1. Bower
                                        2. ST
                                        3. Laulaula
                                        4. Rettalick
                                        5. Whitelock
                                        6. Barrett
                                        7. Cane (c)
                                        8. Savea
                                        9. Smith
                                        10. B Barrett
                                        11. Reece
                                        12. Tupaea
                                        13. Ioane
                                        14. Jordan
                                        15. J Barrett
                                        16. Coles
                                        17. Ross
                                        18. Tu'ungafasi
                                        19. Sotutu
                                        20. Papali'i
                                        21. Fakatava
                                        22. Mo'unga
                                        23. Goodhue
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                                        @Canes4life not bad, but either swap QT and Goodhue or don’t have Goodhue in the 23.

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                                          We could really mess with the Irish and go

                                          Bower, ST, Ta’avao, Vaa’i, Barrett, PGS, Papalii, Sotutu, Fakatava, Perofeta, Clarke, RTS, Fainga’anuku, Reece, Jordan

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