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All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider

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  • KiwiMurphK Online
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    I wonder if Samisoni is injured.

    RTS in the 23 jersey is an upgrade on Ennor in the 23 jersey from test 1.

    Poor old Hoskins can't get a run.

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Duluth Havili, RTS...

      Has either played 13? I don't think RTS has. DH is a poor defender at 12, will be worse our wider.

      JB?

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      @Kirwan has JB...empty cupboard was what I was leaning at....stay safe Rieko.

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        Well didn't see RTS , Akira or even Coles on bench, but makes for intersting team, although have liked what Tipaea has done think maybe Havili is good pick, another kicking option, and not having LF there is one less.
        Bring it on and go well boys

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          Oh fuck off. I've officially joined the death to Foster camp now.

          Taylor has been shite, Sami has to have Covid/injury, right?
          Scooter is not a 6 and despite the hype over his last two matches he's topping the missed tackles and turnovers conceded for the team.

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            On the same show yesterday on Senz that gave the rumour about joe joining the Allblacks coaching ,

            Also Mentioned there will be a massive debut off the bench this week.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @Kirwan has JB...empty cupboard was what I was leaning at....stay safe Rieko.

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              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

              has JB...empty cupboard was what I was leaning at....stay safe Rieko.

              I would go for Jordie. He hasn't played 13 for a few seasons but he's started 8 SR games there

              Asking to much of RTS on debut & Havili is still learning 12

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                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                has JB...empty cupboard was what I was leaning at....stay safe Rieko.

                I would go for Jordie. He hasn't played 13 for a few seasons but he's started 8 SR games there

                Asking to much of RTS on debut & Havili is still learning 12

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                @Duluth of the options, I go with Rieko playing 80...

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @Kirwan has JB...empty cupboard was what I was leaning at....stay safe Rieko.

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                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Kirwan has JB...empty cupboard was what I was leaning at....stay safe Rieko.

                  Jordie played centre for both Canterbury and has for the Canes

                  Touchwood but Ioane is pretty durable so I don’t think we are replacing him unless we are well and truly up (als Test 1). And congrats to the young fella for racking up 50 tests.

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                    Cue post match interview with Ardie: "I didn't know Ireland had never won a series in New Zealand..."

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                      All Blacks by 20 (assuming no red cards.. or the same amount of red cards to both sides)

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                        All Blacks by 20 (assuming no red cards.. or the same amount of red cards to both sides)

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                        @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                        All Blacks by 20 (assuming no red cards.. or the same amount of red cards to both sides)

                        That was my pick last week too 🙂

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                          For all the talk about New Zealand fans are very knowledgeable, I just checked out the comments section on Facebook.

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                            so, yep, change at tighthead absolutely called for.
                            No change at hooker bar getting rid of our best one is, interesting (again i assume he's hurt or sick)
                            Whitelock in a no brainer
                            The like SB at 6 so him going back there a no brainer
                            Savea is the best player in the world so him staying a no brainer
                            It was obvious to everyone that the reason we lost was QT played fucking shit so getting DH back in a no brainer
                            Jordan had to play, no brainer.

                            Bench picks itself given the above selections, except RTS which is, interesting to say the least

                            we are nothing if not predictable.

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                              @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                              All Blacks by 20 (assuming no red cards.. or the same amount of red cards to both sides)

                              That was my pick last week too 🙂

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                              @Kirwan

                              The cards had a huge impact. A poor All Blacks side that played a bit shit tired them out and won by 23 in the first Test

                              Keep 15 on the field and keep the game moving

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                We are tied in a test series and 4th on the rankings in world rugby, and while being a bit disppointed, not as disappointed as maybe the reaction on forums by so called AB supporters, there seems almost no credit given to Ireland for winning 2nd test, only tearing clothes and screaming about how poor ABs were, want to know something Irish were bloody good and made us look poor, and we 4th on rankings, prehaps French (in my opinion clearly best team), Ireland , and Boks (though I feel some of theirs is residual points from year off) just deserve to be in the positions they are in.

                                I think the issue is not the losses so much, it's the manner of the losses/performances.

                                If you look at things the ABs can control, things like their attacking shape, their defensive system, their kicking game, there are real problems there - the same problems that came up last year.

                                There's almost no sign of progress or change being made with the ABs.

                                Despite 12 months of superior form from Samisoni the likes of Codie Taylor are nailed on starters etc.

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                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                We are tied in a test series and 4th on the rankings in world rugby, and while being a bit disppointed, not as disappointed as maybe the reaction on forums by so called AB supporters, there seems almost no credit given to Ireland for winning 2nd test, only tearing clothes and screaming about how poor ABs were, want to know something Irish were bloody good and made us look poor, and we 4th on rankings, prehaps French (in my opinion clearly best team), Ireland , and Boks (though I feel some of theirs is residual points from year off) just deserve to be in the positions they are in.

                                I think the issue is not the losses so much, it's the manner of the losses/performances.

                                If you look at things the ABs can control, things like their attacking shape, their defensive system, their kicking game, there are real problems there - the same problems that came up last year.

                                There's almost no sign of progress or change being made with the ABs.

                                Despite 12 months of superior form from Samisoni the likes of Codie Taylor are nailed on starters etc.

                                Yep and that is more a sensible post, and not against them mate, just the rantings of many on here, and not looking at other good teams. , and their strengths. Irish are I still say a bloody good rugby team, and do think the NH do tend to be able to change game plans better than us, , and I think is helped by their club and 6N comps wheer they play such a variety of teams and styles week in and out. I also think we seeing the loss of SA from super starting to show.

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                                  Why start Nepo? It's not like our scrum creaks against Ireland with that second row pushing. And Nepo offers less than nothing around the ground.

                                  Hooker with the most impact can't get into the 23.

                                  Most ineffective blindside flanker to start.

                                  Greatest second half impact backrower starts.

                                  Sotutu must have a broken leg.

                                  At least Havili is there to straighten the line...

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    so, yep, change at tighthead absolutely called for.
                                    No change at hooker bar getting rid of our best one is, interesting (again i assume he's hurt or sick)
                                    Whitelock in a no brainer
                                    The like SB at 6 so him going back there a no brainer
                                    Savea is the best player in the world so him staying a no brainer
                                    It was obvious to everyone that the reason we lost was QT played fucking shit so getting DH back in a no brainer
                                    Jordan had to play, no brainer.

                                    Bench picks itself given the above selections, except RTS which is, interesting to say the least

                                    we are nothing if not predictable.

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                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    so, yep, change at tighthead absolutely called for.
                                    No change at hooker bar getting rid of our best one is, interesting (again i assume he's hurt or sick)
                                    Whitelock in a no brainer
                                    The like SB at 6 so him going back there a no brainer
                                    Savea is the best player in the world so him staying a no brainer
                                    It was obvious to everyone that the reason we lost was QT played fucking shit so getting DH back in a no brainer
                                    Jordan had to play, no brainer.

                                    Bench picks itself given the above selections, except RTS which is, interesting to say the least

                                    we are nothing if not predictable.

                                    I agree with Havili as he offers us versatily at 12 that perhaps Tupaea doesn't offer (and I a Tupaea fan), I too wonder if ST is injured or something(or is it scrumming?), though maybe we mssied something. I a little surprised that RTS is ahead of Goodhue in reserves, but again not sure how he has recovered from covid, some take a bit of getting over it.

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                                      Gone for experience. Mostly ok, would have had Jack for his defensive qualities starting. But if he doesn’t start then he won’t make the bench. RTS is just odd. Given his error rate, a big call.

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        I wonder if Samisoni is injured.

                                        RTS in the 23 jersey is an upgrade on Ennor in the 23 jersey from test 1.

                                        Poor old Hoskins can't get a run.

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                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        I wonder if Samisoni is injured.

                                        That can be the only reason he isn't in the 23, or rightfully starting. Otherwise - WTF!!!

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                                          I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

                                          ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

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