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All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @bayimports actually that's a good point about the bench

    if we have two guys that will probably play 80 in the loosies why two on the bench? One lock will sit down, and SB will shift. who else goes?

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @bayimports actually that's a good point about the bench

    if we have two guys that will probably play 80 in the loosies why two on the bench? One lock will sit down, and SB will shift. who else goes?

    In game one Cane subbed off didn't he?

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      1. Andrew Porter (Leinster/UCD) 45 caps
      2. Dan Sheehan (Leinster/Lansdowne) 9 caps
      3. Tadhg Furlong (Leinster/Clontarf) 59 caps
      4. Tadhg Beirne (Munster/Lansdowne) 32 caps
      5. James Ryan (Leinster/UCD) 45 caps
      6. Peter O'Mahony (Munster/Cork Constitution) 86 caps
      7. Josh van der Flier (Leinster/UCD) 42 caps
      8. Caelan Doris (Leinster/St Mary's College) 19 caps
      9. Jamison Gibson Park (Leinster) 19 caps
      10. Johnny Sexton (Leinster/St Mary's College) 107 caps CAPTAIN
      11. James Lowe (Leinster) 14 caps
      12. Bundee Aki (Connacht/Galwegians) 39 caps
      13. Robbie Henshaw (Leinster/Buccaneers) 59 caps
      14. Mack Hansen (Connacht) 5 caps
      15. Hugo Keenan (Leinster/UCD) 22 caps

      Reserves:

      1. Rob Herring (Ulster/Ballynahinch) 27 caps
      2. Cian Healy (Leinster/Clontarf) 117 caps
      3. Finlay Bealham (Connacht/Buccaneers) 24 caps
      4. Kieran Treadwell (Ulster/Ballymena) 7 caps
      5. Jack Conan (Leinster/Old Belvedere) 29 caps
      6. Conor Murray (Munster/Garryowen) 98 caps
      7. Joey Carbery (Munster/Clontarf) 34 caps
      8. Keith Earls (Munster/Young Munster) 97 caps
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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @Crucial Sullivan definitely has the potential. He needs time at 10.

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        @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

        @Crucial Sullivan definitely has the potential. He needs time at 10.

        Yep, of the names mentioned he is a possibility. Pity he isn't playing 10 though and is unlikely to if he stays at the Blues.

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        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

          @kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

          ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

          If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

          I can (sadly) report that I watched every single one of RTS’s Warriors games. Yes I am tragic.

          I think he reads the play well and is actually a better tackler when he goes low which is better for rugby as a 2nd 5 than a league fullback.

          I’m interested in what the strategy is for his injection into the match. Barring injuries, when do they want him to come on.

          Sometimes the big games need the big call 😉

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          @ACT-Crusader yeah he is a great player. The skill set for rugby is different. Just think he is being rushed.

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          • JCJ JC

            @kev But who is he intended to sub for do you think? Haven’t seen much to suggest he’s an international standard centre to sub Reiko, and if he subs Havili has he got a decent positional kicking game?

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            @JC said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            @kev But who is he intended to sub for do you think? Haven’t seen much to suggest he’s an international standard centre to sub Reiko, and if he subs Havili has he got a decent positional kicking game?

            At this point he is only a 2nd five who can’t kick.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

              @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

              Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

              and coached
              and served on the committee for a decade

              but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

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              @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

              @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

              @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

              Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

              and coached
              and served on the committee for a decade

              but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

              I think it’s hard to take you seriously when you have a profile pic that appears to be President Camacho!

              I’ll pile in on the ST WTF? Aside from that, and it’s a big one - not like Taylor or Coles need more games, the 23 pretty much as I’d guess. I was sure RTS would get one go, the only thing is Sotutu, but the desire for BBSB 🙄 in at 6 meant that would be the case

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                The Irish team listed like that just reiterates that they already have a ready-made provincial combination with Leinster. Put Ringrose back in, and the influence is even greater in the starting XV. Back to the Cantablacks of Mitchell and Deans.

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                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                  Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                  and coached
                  and served on the committee for a decade

                  but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

                  I think it’s hard to take you seriously when you have a profile pic that appears to be President Camacho!

                  I’ll pile in on the ST WTF? Aside from that, and it’s a big one - not like Taylor or Coles need more games, the 23 pretty much as I’d guess. I was sure RTS would get one go, the only thing is Sotutu, but the desire for BBSB 🙄 in at 6 meant that would be the case

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                  @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  profile pic that appears to be President Camacho!

                  I'm Rick James bitch!

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    profile pic that appears to be President Camacho!

                    I'm Rick James bitch!

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                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    profile pic that appears to be President Camacho!

                    I'm Rick James bitch!

                    Haha I know but I always think

                    https://i.etsystatic.com/11329076/r/il/ab4f16/3536552629/il_1588xN.3536552629_eysr.jpg

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                      @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                      Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                      and coached
                      and served on the committee for a decade

                      but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

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                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                      @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                      @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                      Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                      and coached
                      and served on the committee for a decade

                      but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

                      didn't realise that, which club?

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                        NZ TAB odds:

                        NZ $1.25
                        IRE $4.00
                        Draw $21.00

                        9 point spread.

                        https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/event/1486520/rugby-union/international/international-matches/new-zealand-v-ireland

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                          you should get down to club rugby and stand on sidelines in rain etc, gives you appreciation of what rugby is in real world.

                          lol fuck off

                          no nerve touched, i just wonder why people like you even come here?

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                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                          @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                          you should get down to club rugby and stand on sidelines in rain etc, gives you appreciation of what rugby is in real world.

                          lol fuck off

                          no nerve touched, i just wonder why people like you even come here?

                          Because I enjoy the sensible discussion about rugby when it's here. And although I not very good at getting across what I want and may seem harsh and everything , but I love the game and generally like talking to rugby people.
                          Mind you I will add of all the people who I know from rugby etc I am probably only one dumb enough to come into these forums lol, so perhaps that says something huh?

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                            Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                            and coached
                            and served on the committee for a decade

                            but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

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                            @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                            Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                            and coached
                            and served on the committee for a decade

                            but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

                            again I say who ever said that about you? As I say abit defensive there sunshine. lol
                            Seems I said I don't like the idea that we don't give due respect and kudos to Ireland (and othet teams) and that got you upset etc, so with all due respect to you if that upsets you I think it says more about you than me. I will just carry on just the same thanks.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              NZ TAB odds:

                              NZ $1.25
                              IRE $4.00
                              Draw $21.00

                              9 point spread.

                              https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/event/1486520/rugby-union/international/international-matches/new-zealand-v-ireland

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                              @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                              NZ TAB odds:

                              NZ $1.25
                              IRE $4.00
                              Draw $21.00

                              9 point spread.

                              https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/event/1486520/rugby-union/international/international-matches/new-zealand-v-ireland

                              Well there seems to be a few people on TSF picking the AB's to lose

                              Time for them to make same easy money. Bet big on Ireland. Post receipts.

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                                Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                                and coached
                                and served on the committee for a decade

                                but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

                                Must be the impression you give 🙂

                                no, that impression of being a bombastic know-it-all but with little clue is actually real, but not because i have no clubland links

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                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                                Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                                and coached
                                and served on the committee for a decade

                                but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

                                Must be the impression you give 🙂

                                no, that impression of being a bombastic know-it-all but with little clue is actually real, but not because i have no clubland links

                                But someone who can only answer any criticism with insults , and not even at you , but as you were mate.

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                                  @Duluth I'm with you in that I think our players are too good for Ireland at home, despite our obvious issues under Foster. The fact Ireland only managed to score 23 points and beat us by 11 despite our red card and two yellows speaks volumes really, they just don't have enough points in them if we keep 15 players on the field.

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    @kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

                                    ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

                                    If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

                                    I can (sadly) report that I watched every single one of RTS’s Warriors games. Yes I am tragic.

                                    I think he reads the play well and is actually a better tackler when he goes low which is better for rugby as a 2nd 5 than a league fullback.

                                    I’m interested in what the strategy is for his injection into the match. Barring injuries, when do they want him to come on.

                                    Sometimes the big games need the big call 😉

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                                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    @kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

                                    ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

                                    If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

                                    I can (sadly) report that I watched every single one of RTS’s Warriors games. Yes I am tragic.

                                    I think he reads the play well and is actually a better tackler when he goes low which is better for rugby as a 2nd 5 than a league fullback.

                                    I’m interested in what the strategy is for his injection into the match. Barring injuries, when do they want him to come on.

                                    Sometimes the big games need the big call 😉

                                    Interesting thing RTS was saying in an interview last week when discussing how hard he was finding game, he said in league he made probably 2 tackles a agme and finding extra work in union bloody tiring, as I never watch league, I was surprised.

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      For all the talk about New Zealand fans are very knowledgeable, I just checked out the comments section on Facebook.

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                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      For all the talk about New Zealand fans are very knowledgeable, I just checked out the comments section on Facebook.

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                                      In fairness what did you expect to find on Facebook 😂

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        NZ TAB odds:

                                        NZ $1.25
                                        IRE $4.00
                                        Draw $21.00

                                        9 point spread.

                                        https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/event/1486520/rugby-union/international/international-matches/new-zealand-v-ireland

                                        Well there seems to be a few people on TSF picking the AB's to lose

                                        Time for them to make same easy money. Bet big on Ireland. Post receipts.

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                                        @Duluth I think we will lose, won't be surprised if we win, but have never bet against the ABs, and don't intend starting....

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                                        • Dan54D Dan54

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

                                          ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

                                          If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

                                          I can (sadly) report that I watched every single one of RTS’s Warriors games. Yes I am tragic.

                                          I think he reads the play well and is actually a better tackler when he goes low which is better for rugby as a 2nd 5 than a league fullback.

                                          I’m interested in what the strategy is for his injection into the match. Barring injuries, when do they want him to come on.

                                          Sometimes the big games need the big call 😉

                                          Interesting thing RTS was saying in an interview last week when discussing how hard he was finding game, he said in league he made probably 2 tackles a agme and finding extra work in union bloody tiring, as I never watch league, I was surprised.

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                                          @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

                                          ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

                                          If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

                                          I can (sadly) report that I watched every single one of RTS’s Warriors games. Yes I am tragic.

                                          I think he reads the play well and is actually a better tackler when he goes low which is better for rugby as a 2nd 5 than a league fullback.

                                          I’m interested in what the strategy is for his injection into the match. Barring injuries, when do they want him to come on.

                                          Sometimes the big games need the big call 😉

                                          Interesting thing RTS was saying in an interview last week when discussing how hard he was finding game, he said in league he made probably 2 tackles a agme and finding extra work in union bloody tiring, as I never watch league, I was surprised.

                                          League fullbacks don’t make a lot of tackles because they are rarely in the line. The tackles they make are often scrambling.

                                          Take last nights Origin, the two fullbacks had phenomenal games but the Qld fullback, Ponga who got player of the match only made 2 tackles and Tedesco is more of a physical style fullback made 5 tackles. That is in a game that had 600+ tackles made and about 100 missed tackles.

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