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All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider

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  • canefanC canefan

    I can't ever remember being this disappointed as an AB supporter. 1998?

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    @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    I can't ever remember being this disappointed as an AB supporter. 1998?

    1999

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    • N Nevorian

      @WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      Will Jordan only person that can walk off that field holding his head high

      Thought BBBR was also leading the way before he had to leave

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      @Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      Will Jordan only person that can walk off that field holding his head high

      Thought BBBR was also leading the way before he had to leave

      Yes BBBRs best game

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @Winger said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

        Razor would want his own team so quite a cost.

        So pay it. It's costs more to keep these clowns on to further tarnish the ABs.

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        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

        @Winger said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

        Razor would want his own team so quite a cost.

        So pay it. It's costs more to keep these clowns on to further tarnish the ABs.

        Agree. But this is NZR

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          Two questions:

          1. why didn't the AB's take the three towards the end? This is test match rugby not super rugby!

          2. would Aki be AB's 12 now if he had stayed in NZ?

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          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            Razor will sort that out.

            Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

            It does when they are dropped.

            Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

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            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            Razor will sort that out.

            Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

            It does when they are dropped.

            Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

            These players didn't get shit overnight. They can be improved

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            • canefanC canefan

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

              @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

              Razor will sort that out.

              Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

              Players need support. This team could do with a Crusaders style system in place, that simplifies decision making. Because they can't make good decisions by themselves

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              @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

              @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

              Razor will sort that out.

              Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

              Players need support. This team could do with a Crusaders style system in place, that simplifies decision making. Because they can't make good decisions by themselves

              ANY system would be an improvement.

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                Great game to watch. NZ response at the beginning of the 2nd half was classically ominous, but Ireland have played the ABs often enough recently to withstand. Tadgh Beirne was huuuuuuge.

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                  We scored no tries off set piece or any structure all opportunitistic tries. Poor.coaching.

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                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                    Picked Ireland England SA today. Sadly ⅓ so far.

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                    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    Picked Ireland England SA today. Sadly ⅓ so far.

                    I'm one from 4, England, SA, Scotland next

                    Yep, once again, not just the loss. It's the lack of anything coherent as a team that makes it so annoying. You can see we have some stellar individuals (among with some dead weight that needs to be dropped, cane, Taylor, etc) so it's totally a coaching issue

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      Akira second top tackler for the ABs
                      Most run metres of any forward on the field

                      Good effort after a few weeks out with an injury

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                      @Duluth Not bad for a fat useless prick!

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                        Lost home series to Ireland - check

                        What's else could this season hold...

                        Lose both tests in SA
                        Lose Bledisloe
                        Lose to Scotland on EOYT
                        Lose to Wales on EOYT

                        That's the trajectory NZ are on right now. There is no fear. Opponents sense blood in the water. They know NZ have the capability of scoring something out of nothing, but so do Fiji!

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                        • L LABCAT

                          Two questions:

                          1. why didn't the AB's take the three towards the end? This is test match rugby not super rugby!

                          2. would Aki be AB's 12 now if he had stayed in NZ?

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                          @LABCAT said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                          Two questions:

                          1. why didn't the AB's take the three towards the end? This is test match rugby not super rugby!

                          2. would Aki be AB's 12 now if he had stayed in NZ?

                          3 not enough but should have gone for scrum or line out

                          No. Same scenario as Hadley Parkes

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                            @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            Picked Ireland England SA today. Sadly ⅓ so far.

                            I'm one from 4, England, SA, Scotland next

                            Yep, once again, not just the loss. It's the lack of anything coherent as a team that makes it so annoying. You can see we have some stellar individuals (among with some dead weight that needs to be dropped, cane, Taylor, etc) so it's totally a coaching issue

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                            @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            Picked Ireland England SA today. Sadly ⅓ so far.

                            I'm one from 4, England, SA, Scotland next

                            Yep, once again, not just the loss. It's the lack of anything coherent as a team that makes it so annoying. You can see we have some stellar individuals (among with some dead weight that needs to be dropped, cane, Taylor, etc) so it's totally a coaching issue

                            Yes. The leadership group HAS to be questioned now, as does the direction that the team is taking and all including the fisheads given a good clearout.

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                              The yc was a bit ridiculous, as the precedent had already been set within the same series, but Ireland fully deserved the win. Sad times. Codie Taylor still living from his reputation circa 2017.

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                              • StagS Stag

                                @Victor-Meldrew Razor would bring a complete overhaul of the team and the culture with him. And make McDonald his assistant.

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                                @Stag said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Victor-Meldrew Razor would bring a complete overhaul of the team and the culture with him. And make McDonald his assistant.

                                It's never that simple. And it's plain dumb to impose a culture - almost always ends badly.

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                                  What is our record at Westpac?

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                                    What is our record at Westpac?

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                                    @Nevorian Haven't won in the last four tests there?

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      I can't ever remember being this disappointed as an AB supporter. 1998?

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                                      @canefan probably the World Cup exits for me but outside that , this is it

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        Razor will sort that out.

                                        Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

                                        It does when they are dropped.

                                        Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        Razor will sort that out.

                                        Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

                                        It does when they are dropped.

                                        Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

                                        You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

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                                        • FrankF Frank

                                          I don't fuckin care if Razor picks the Cantablacks initially.
                                          I just want to see a coherent and unified gameplan that the players are fully committed to.

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                                          @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          I don't fuckin care if Razor picks the Cantablacks initially.
                                          I just want to see a coherent and unified gameplan that the players are fully committed to.

                                          Fuck any games planning watt all, beyond some of our players are pretty flash would do!

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