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All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider

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  • DamoD Damo

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?

    Not interviewed yet.

    First question at the press conference is surely

    "Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".

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    #1536

    @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?

    Not interviewed yet.

    First question at the press conference is surely

    "Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".

    He has to go. The only decent thing he can do. If Foster stays we are in for a very bad few years.

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    • No QuarterN No Quarter

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      Razor will sort that out.

      Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

      It does when they are dropped.

      Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

      You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

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      Victor Meldrew
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      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      Razor will sort that out.

      Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

      It does when they are dropped.

      Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

      You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

      Not really. He can lead and identify the change needed, but that will only work if the players are on board so the culture change comes from the bottom up.

      Threatening players with being dropped if they don't conform (which @Frank suggested) almost always has the opposite effect.

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        Ireland tonight reminded me of a team I used to know.

        Stoked for them

        Completely destroyed us

        Reiko Ionie is a poke centre.

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        • L LABCAT

          Two questions:

          1. why didn't the AB's take the three towards the end? This is test match rugby not super rugby!

          2. would Aki be AB's 12 now if he had stayed in NZ?

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          @LABCAT said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          Two questions:

          1. why didn't the AB's take the three towards the end? This is test match rugby not super rugby!

          2. would Aki be AB's 12 now if he had stayed in NZ?

          1. Attempt to heap pressure on Ireland
          2. Probably not. I had a gripe that we don’t invest long term in guys like him but we can’t. Money talks.
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          • menceyM mencey

            @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?

            Not interviewed yet.

            First question at the press conference is surely

            "Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".

            He has to go. The only decent thing he can do. If Foster stays we are in for a very bad few years.

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            @mencey said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?

            Not interviewed yet.

            First question at the press conference is surely

            "Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".

            He has to go. The only decent thing he can do. If Foster stays we are in for a more very bad few years.

            Yup

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            • HoorooH Hooroo

              Ireland tonight reminded me of a team I used to know.

              Stoked for them

              Completely destroyed us

              Reiko Ionie is a poke centre.

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              Machpants
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              #1541

              @Hooroo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

              Ireland tonight reminded me of a team I used to know.

              Stoked for them

              Completely destroyed us

              Reiko Ionie is a poke centre.

              Is poke good or bad?

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                Kirwan
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                #1542

                Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

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                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

                  No, he can keep the title. Just don't let him near the team.

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                    #1544

                    Well done to Ireland. I actually don't think they are an amazing team, but they do the basics really really well.

                    Cane being subbed at 65 mins (as Fitzy just said on tv) is not a good look.

                    Foster has fucked up his outhalves. fucked up his centres. fucked up the back row.

                    Lastly. The referring inconsistencies from week to week are fucking embarrassing. Ireland had 2 red cards today by current standards. I don't think they are reds personally but if the offences were committed by black shirts there would be gifs, Alastair Campbell presentations, tweets and screams of thuggery. On the UK sky sports they didn't even show a replay of the incidents post match. The whole fucking game hinged on them, The second test hinged on them.

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                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                      Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

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                      #1545

                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                      Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

                      Him resigning means he admits he's wrong, him being said NZR amid they were wrong. Neither will happen until we are in s much worse place

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                        No Quarter
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                        #1546

                        He's proud of how we came back in the 2nd half, and there were some nice signs there. Good stuff. Can't wait to see if we can topple the mighty Argentina this year.

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                          There's no way he'll resign. The man has zero insight. He's an embodiment of the TSF slogan. He's almost as thick as the NZRU administrators who hired him.

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                            So they select Karl T and give him 10 minutes. What was the point behind that selection?????

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                              And while I thought Ireland had a good chance of winning, never did I suspect they would get over 30 points. We leak like a sieve.

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                Razor will sort that out.

                                Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

                                It does when they are dropped.

                                Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

                                You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

                                Not really. He can lead and identify the change needed, but that will only work if the players are on board so the culture change comes from the bottom up.

                                Threatening players with being dropped if they don't conform (which @Frank suggested) almost always has the opposite effect.

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1550

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                Razor will sort that out.

                                Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

                                It does when they are dropped.

                                Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

                                You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

                                Not really. He can lead and identify the change needed, but that will only work if the players are on board so the culture change comes from the bottom up.

                                Threatening players with being dropped if they don't conform (which @Frank suggested) almost always has the opposite effect.

                                We had the same problems since the end of Hansen’s tenure. We are not winning rucks, collisions, like we used too, we kick the ball away like we do, and we have players whose error rate for test rugby is too high.

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

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                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                  Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

                                  I didn’t expect him to , probably feels some kind of loyalty to the players in a survival instinct kind of way , ,I think he will have to be tapped on the shoulder

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                                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                                    Ireland tonight reminded me of a team I used to know.

                                    Stoked for them

                                    Completely destroyed us

                                    Reiko Ionie is a poke centre.

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                                    No Quarter
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                                    #1552

                                    @Hooroo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    Ireland tonight reminded me of a team I used to know.

                                    Stoked for them

                                    Completely destroyed us

                                    Reiko Ionie is a poke centre.

                                    Hardout, we used to do what Ireland did to us. We'd be the better team overall and would weather the storm (e.g. our 3rd quarter) then would pull away and win comfortably.

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                                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                                      Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

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                                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

                                      Well something needs to change drastically.

                                      The same pattern over and over again. Get a good win and see progress, play completely crap and lose badly. Then in the 3rd Test reverse the order for the 1st & second halves and lose again.

                                      It's the complete lack of acknowledgement that serious changes are needed, from NZR down to the water-carriers, I find so infuriating

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                                      • canefanC Away
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                                        canefan
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                                        Reado says we looked like strangers. Goldie names the coaches as culpable. This is truth

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                                          KiwiMurph
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                                          #1555

                                          I highly doubt they have the guts to sack Foster.

                                          I hope i'm wrong

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