All Blacks vs Wales Test #2
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<p>I didn't pay enough attention to this on Saturday. How did Pat T go in the scrums on Saturday? I saw him disrupt lineout ball and charge around the field to great effect. But a couple of years ago a double substitution of him and Charlie F in a few tests had us struggling. </p>
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<p>From memory the scrums were fine when he and Charlie came on but I suspect those big Welsh teletubbies were conserving their energy at that point.</p> -
<p>The team is (with Test caps in brackets):<br><br><strong>Starting XV</strong><br><br>
1. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2400'>Joe Moody</a> (12)<br>
2. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1396'>Dane Coles</a> (37)<br>
3. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1825'>Owen Franks</a> (79)<br>
4. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2131'>Brodie Retallick</a> (48)<br>
5. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1800'>Sam Whitelock</a> (73)<br>
6. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/539'>Jerome Kaino</a> (68)<br>
7. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1922'>Sam Cane</a> (32)<br>
8. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1282'>Kieran Read</a> – captain (85)<br>
9. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1856'>Aaron Smith</a> (48)<br>
10. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1900'>Aaron Cruden</a> (38)<br>
11. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2121'>Waisake Naholo</a>(4)<br>
12. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1784'>Ryan Crotty</a> (16)<br>
13. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2399'>Malakai Fekitoa</a> (14)<br>
14. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1832'>Ben Smith</a> (49)<br>
15. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1620'>Israel Dagg</a> (49)<br><br><strong>Reserves</strong><br><br>
16. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2170'>Nathan Harris</a> (3)<br>
17. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1466'>Wyatt Crockett</a> (46)<br>
18. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1824'>Charlie Faumuina</a> (34)<br>
19. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2152'>Patrick Tuipulotu</a> (8)<br>
20.<strong> </strong><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2134'>Ardie Savea</a> (1)<br>
21. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2122'>TJ Perenara</a> (17)<br>
22. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1965'>Beauden Barrett</a> (36)<br>
23. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2578'>Seta Tamanivalu</a> (1)<br><br>
The All Blacks matchday 23 features just two changes from the team that played last weekendâ€
s opening Test match: 73-Test lock Samuel Whitelock returns to the side, replacing Luke Romano, while Israel Dagg has been named at fullback for what will be his 50th Test match, with Ben Smith, who is also playing his 50th Test, moving to the left wing, replacing Julian Savea. The bench is unchanged.</p>
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<p>Congratulations to Israel Dagg and Ben Smith on their 50th test.<br>
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<p>Great :ireful: :truce:</p>
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Another totally predictable team. <br><br>
With which I am entirely happy. <br><br>
Add in NMS due back for the EOYT and the coaches seeing Naholo as an 11 option: you've been warned Julian. <br><br>
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<p>Axing of Savea had to be done. Hopefully Savea will look to Dagg as motivation to get back into the starting XV. Dagg is going to be into everything on Saturday, so I'm excited to see what he does. </p>
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<p>Retallick / Whitelock / Tuipulotu - awesome locking trio.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="588399" data-time="1466014019"><p>Hopefully Harris laying down the gauntlet spectacularly last week will bring the very best out of Coles.</p></blockquote>
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The Harris Vs Taylor Vs Coles debate. Bring it on! <br><br>
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<p>The writing was on the wall when they moved Naholo over to the left , </p>
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<p>And not so much that Savea would be dropped , but more so that these two may be competing for the same spot soon </p> -
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So glad they ponied up and dropped Savea.</p></blockquote>
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Me too, it's not a World Cup year. They can't spend all season getting him fit.<br><br>
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<p>Me too, it's not a World Cup year. They can't spend all season getting him fit.<br><br>
Interested to see how he responds for the remainder of the super season</p>
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<p>Yeah, me too. I just think it's a bit sad that this is the thing he needs to ignite him rather than just being so damn proud to be an All Black that he doesn't train his bum off!!</p> -
<p>Absolutely had to sacrifice Savea. Impossible to continue to preach "better than last year" and "take it to another level" when you have the antithesis of what they are trying to do on the left wing.</p>
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<p>The door is certainly open for him to reclaim his spot but I'd say with about 80% certainty he won't get the 11 jersey back permanently. Too competitive, too many new players coming through.</p> -
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<p>Absolutely had to sacrifice Savea. Impossible to continue to preach "better than last year" and "take it to another level" when you have the antithesis of what they are trying to do on the left wing.</p>
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<p>The door is certainly open for him to reclaim his spot but I'd say with about 80% certainty he won't get the 11 jersey back permanently. Too competitive, too many new players coming through.</p>
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<p>I think if he is fit he will get the jersey, so in saying that I agree with you in that he will never get it back permanently becasue he is too lazy (In my view)</p> -
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<p>I think if he is fit he will get the jersey, so in saying that I agree with you in that he will never get it back permanently becasue he is too lazy (In my view)</p>
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<p>reading between the lines, he has other stuff going on in his life aside from Rugby. Hansen is a great believer that off field stability/quality = good performance on the field. He may well be back later.</p>
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<p>What Savea offers (on form) is the ability to smash set defensive lines. I don't see this in other players - he can just run through 2-3 tackles, suck in cover and create space. However, when fat and uninterested he's a liability. </p>
