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@nzzp said in Other Cricket:
@Catogrande said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@nzzp said in Other Cricket:
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@nzzp said in Other Cricket:
Chandimal goes 6 6 to get to 200 with a no 11 at the other end. SL 554/9, lead by 190 and still batting. It's ridiculous - Australia bowled them out twice in 80 overs, and are now 180 overs in.
Lyon's rested, only 6 overs today. Swepson bowling plenty now. Carn Sri Lanka
Tests in Sri Lanka sure are high scoring affairs.
Makes Muralis 800 wickets even more impressive to be fair.
Murali bowled the msot balls in test cricket history. He worked for his wickets for sure. Dead set legend.
Oh for sure. Throwing or not his record is just fucken ridiculous. THIRTY more Michelles than Warnie……
Here’s another stat. Very good bowlers like Bob Willis, Joel Garner, Jason Gillespie, Brett Lee, Morne Morkel and Neil Wagner ( I love Wags ) never got ten wickets in a match….Murali did it TWENTY TWO times !!!!
Bloody hell, mind boggling stuff.
He’s clearly as much Sri Lanka’s greatest cricketer as Paddles is ours ( well, Sangakkara was incredible too )
Think how many more wickets Warnie might have got if he didn’t have McGrath down the other end taking over 500 of the bastards.
Think of how many I would have got if I was actually any good at cricket
Seriously though, you're right - but Warne didn't have to bowl at the good Aussie batsmen either. It's like Paddles - there were more wickets available, but you do a LOT more bowling as a result.
I think that illustrates one of the beauties of cricket, the many variables that can influence the stats in what is a really stats heavy game.
Did Warne pick up more wickets due to the pressure that McGrath caused at the other end or was he denied wickets he might have had due to McGrath’s excellence? If Sri Lanka had a really good long time partner for Murali, would he have got more or less wickets? Is Paddles’ record more impressive be cause he never got to bowl against the NZ batsmen of the time? Would Botham have got more wickets if he did any training and lost weight or would he have been injured all the time like most English bowlers that were any good?
@Catogrande said in Other Cricket:
@nzzp said in Other Cricket:
@Catogrande said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@nzzp said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@nzzp said in Other Cricket:
Chandimal goes 6 6 to get to 200 with a no 11 at the other end. SL 554/9, lead by 190 and still batting. It's ridiculous - Australia bowled them out twice in 80 overs, and are now 180 overs in.
Lyon's rested, only 6 overs today. Swepson bowling plenty now. Carn Sri Lanka
Tests in Sri Lanka sure are high scoring affairs.
Makes Muralis 800 wickets even more impressive to be fair.
Murali bowled the msot balls in test cricket history. He worked for his wickets for sure. Dead set legend.
Oh for sure. Throwing or not his record is just fucken ridiculous. THIRTY more Michelles than Warnie……
Here’s another stat. Very good bowlers like Bob Willis, Joel Garner, Jason Gillespie, Brett Lee, Morne Morkel and Neil Wagner ( I love Wags ) never got ten wickets in a match….Murali did it TWENTY TWO times !!!!
Bloody hell, mind boggling stuff.
He’s clearly as much Sri Lanka’s greatest cricketer as Paddles is ours ( well, Sangakkara was incredible too )
Think how many more wickets Warnie might have got if he didn’t have McGrath down the other end taking over 500 of the bastards.
Think of how many I would have got if I was actually any good at cricket
Seriously though, you're right - but Warne didn't have to bowl at the good Aussie batsmen either. It's like Paddles - there were more wickets available, but you do a LOT more bowling as a result.
I think that illustrates one of the beauties of cricket, the many variables that can influence the stats in what is a really stats heavy game.
Did Warne pick up more wickets due to the pressure that McGrath caused at the other end or was he denied wickets he might have had due to McGrath’s excellence? If Sri Lanka had a really good long time partner for Murali, would he have got more or less wickets? Is Paddles’ record more impressive be cause he never got to bowl against the NZ batsmen of the time? Would Botham have got more wickets if he did any training and lost weight or would he have been injured all the time like most English bowlers that were any good?
I think the variables is far more applicable to bowlers.
If you’re a good batsman you’ll get runs, simple as that…..
Paddles would have ripped through his own batting line ups with ease. No padding his stats with minnows in his days ( although some piston wristed gibbons argue the Australian team of 85 was weak )
Botham in the first half of his career was ridiculous, then he was pretty much there solely on reputation for the second half. Hard to say exactly why.
I mentioned Joel Garner before. 59 tests and just the seven Michelles and no 10fers. On first glance that would put him in a pretty ordinary sort of bracket til you realise his average is a ridiculous 20.98 ( just over a run better than Paddles ). The thing with Garner was he rarely opened the bowling, Holding, Roberts or Croft did then Marshall and even Walsh later in his career. Garner was the perfect third seamer who came on, bounced batsmen, put pressure on and got lots of 2-40 or 3-60 type figures. He had to essentially fight with three other awesome pace bowlers to get a share of the ten wickets.
McGrath and Warne were just a special duo. Not sure cricket has seen anything like that quality……but then again that top seven batting line up ( can’t forget Gilly at 5th drop ) made their lives so easy a lot of the time.
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Jason Gillespie, the 3rd guy in the attack, took 260 @ 26
Brett Lee is the 4th guy and he took 310 @ 31
it's basically the most ridiculous fucking attack. How easy did Ponting fucking have it?
Fuck, my two all-time great bowlers need a break, i'll toss the ball to a couple of guys who would open the bowling for literally any team in the world
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Jason Gillespie, the 3rd guy in the attack, took 260 @ 26
Brett Lee is the 4th guy and he took 310 @ 31
it's basically the most ridiculous fucking attack. How easy did Ponting fucking have it?
Fuck, my two all-time great bowlers need a break, i'll toss the ball to a couple of guys who would open the bowling for literally any team in the world
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
Jason Gillespie, the 3rd guy in the attack, took 260 @ 26
Brett Lee is the 4th guy and he took 310 @ 31
it's basically the most ridiculous fucking attack. How easy did Ponting fucking have it?
Fuck, my two all-time great bowlers need a break, i'll toss the ball to a couple of guys who would open the bowling for literally any team in the world
Even the “lesser” players like those two, Langer, Martyn etc were still bloody good. What a team.
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Can I please not live in a world where test cricket becomes 100% Bazball? If it gets to the stage where every team just throws the bat from ball 1 and make 280 all out in 53 overs or 437-1 in a day if their luck is in then the format will die pretty fast.
For batsmen with dodgy technique but great eye and power and playing on good pitches without bounce (and with short boundaries), they may start to bat like this making the odd 83 in 72 balls between the inevitable low scores not to mention the occasional 164 in 146 balls. Who wants to watch that in test cricket? Once batsmen no longer worry about getting out, let's abandon all cricket that lasts longer than a day.
Rant over.
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Can I please not live in a world where test cricket becomes 100% Bazball? If it gets to the stage where every team just throws the bat from ball 1 and make 280 all out in 53 overs or 437-1 in a day if their luck is in then the format will die pretty fast.
For batsmen with dodgy technique but great eye and power and playing on good pitches without bounce (and with short boundaries), they may start to bat like this making the odd 83 in 72 balls between the inevitable low scores not to mention the occasional 164 in 146 balls. Who wants to watch that in test cricket? Once batsmen no longer worry about getting out, let's abandon all cricket that lasts longer than a day.
Rant over.
@KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:
Can I please not live in a world where test cricket becomes 100% Bazball? If it gets to the stage where every team just throws the bat from ball 1 and make 280 all out in 53 overs or 437-1 in a day if their luck is in then the format will die pretty fast.
For batsmen with dodgy technique but great eye and power and playing on good pitches without bounce (and with short boundaries), they may start to bat like this making the odd 83 in 72 balls between the inevitable low scores not to mention the occasional 164 in 146 balls. Who wants to watch that in test cricket? Once batsmen no longer worry about getting out, let's abandon all cricket that lasts longer than a day.
Rant over.
Settle down Boycott, times have to move on sometimes. It puts more onus on the bowlers. I like it.
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@KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:
Can I please not live in a world where test cricket becomes 100% Bazball? If it gets to the stage where every team just throws the bat from ball 1 and make 280 all out in 53 overs or 437-1 in a day if their luck is in then the format will die pretty fast.
For batsmen with dodgy technique but great eye and power and playing on good pitches without bounce (and with short boundaries), they may start to bat like this making the odd 83 in 72 balls between the inevitable low scores not to mention the occasional 164 in 146 balls. Who wants to watch that in test cricket? Once batsmen no longer worry about getting out, let's abandon all cricket that lasts longer than a day.
Rant over.
Settle down Boycott, times have to move on sometimes. It puts more onus on the bowlers. I like it.
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:
Can I please not live in a world where test cricket becomes 100% Bazball? If it gets to the stage where every team just throws the bat from ball 1 and make 280 all out in 53 overs or 437-1 in a day if their luck is in then the format will die pretty fast.
For batsmen with dodgy technique but great eye and power and playing on good pitches without bounce (and with short boundaries), they may start to bat like this making the odd 83 in 72 balls between the inevitable low scores not to mention the occasional 164 in 146 balls. Who wants to watch that in test cricket? Once batsmen no longer worry about getting out, let's abandon all cricket that lasts longer than a day.
Rant over.
Settle down Boycott, times have to move on sometimes. It puts more onus on the bowlers. I like it.
It'll only take teams being rolled for a hundred a few times and things will move.
This looked good partly due to batting, partly the ball going to sleep and partly injuries and bowling.
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@Donsteppa Once played a cricket match close to Broadmoor, the high-security psychiatric hospital - during the game, we noticed that the boundary was being lined by police facing into the forest that our pitch bordered. We carried on as well.
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Momentous knock in County cricket. Could spurn a movie. "Fourth by Northeast" . What a blaster. 410 runs from Sam.
@ARHS said in Other Cricket:
Momentous knock in County cricket. Could spurn a movie. "Fourth by Northeast" . What a blaster. 410 runs from Sam.
referencing this for those not active onc ricketing websites:
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sam-northeast-410-i-had-a-lot-more-nerves-in-the-190s-than-in-the-390s-which-sounds-ridiculous-1325992 -
In honour of left handed day I saw this on a cricket thread…..
Here’s my all time left handed XI. Some really good batsmen like Graeme Pollock, Justin Langer, Mike Hussey, Shiv Chanderpaul, David Gower and Graeme Smith miss out….harder to find really amazing bowlers though hence our boy Trent sneaks in !
1 Matthew Hayden
2 Alastair Cook
3 Brian Lara
4 Kumar Sangakkara
5 Allan Border
6 Garry Sobers
7 Adam Gilchrist
8 Wasim Akram
9 Alan Davidson
10 Derek Underwood
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@Donsteppa said in Other Cricket:
I wonder if Hadlee can sneak in as a left handed bat.
Good point. A lot of guys are “natural” right handers who happen to bat left handed but given his primary skill is bowling probably not unfortunately.
Boult bats right handed as an example and Lara bowls right handed too.
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@Bovidae said in Other Cricket:
England and BMac come crashing back to earth against SA.
Baz-ball back-fires….
Proteas bowling lineup is top drawer. Batting is very hit and miss, but their bowling is quick, can swing and I’m looking forward to them getting a go on the Aussie decks later this year.
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@Bovidae said in Other Cricket:
England and BMac come crashing back to earth against SA.
Baz-ball back-fires….
Proteas bowling lineup is top drawer. Batting is very hit and miss, but their bowling is quick, can swing and I’m looking forward to them getting a go on the Aussie decks later this year.
@ACT-Crusader said in Other Cricket:
@Bovidae said in Other Cricket:
England and BMac come crashing back to earth against SA.
Baz-ball back-fires….
Proteas bowling lineup is top drawer. Batting is very hit and miss, but their bowling is quick, can swing and I’m looking forward to them getting a go on the Aussie decks later this year.
There some dreadful shots played by English batsmen, playing expansive shots instead of digging in. Heard an interview with Stokes afterwards and he was all "we won the first 4 tests of the summer playing this way" so obviously a first innings collapse is their chosen method of victory.
