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    @nzzp Australia still sound like they want their own competition after next year. This club competition could be an alternative to Super rugby and hopefuly a step up.

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    Fuck it must be that pissy little window between NH season ending and starting again.

    With an added layer of "We beat you guys so now we want a club championship because we think we can win" mentality from the north, which will get crushed by various player unions in the name of safety.

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    My issue is the nature of having a select 16 from the start with no change. That will drive inequities to the comps they come from.
    Lets say that the Highlanders and Chiefs are left out from NZ. The other three franchises get more money, more games for supporter (more merch sales) and players flock to them for more opportunity meaning they can select stronger players. The other two franchises would become feeders.
    Any set up like this needs to be like a European Cup where you earn participation but even then I can see an uneven distribution of talent in our own comps just as it happens in other countries.

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    @Crucial said in So World club championship?:

    My issue is the nature of having a select 16 from the start with no change. That will drive inequities to the comps they come from.
    Lets say that the Highlanders and Chiefs are left out from NZ. The other three franchises get more money, more games for supporter (more merch sales) and players flock to them for more opportunity meaning they can select stronger players. The other two franchises would become feeders.
    Any set up like this needs to be like a European Cup where you earn participation but even then I can see an uneven distribution of talent in our own comps just as it happens in other countries.

    Agree. It would need to include all super rugby teams otherwise forget it. Make it a say a once every 4 years big event (replacing maybe end of year tours) with pools (say 8 pools with 5 teams = 40 teams playing home and away matches) then quarter finals etc. Or top 16.. With revenue shared between all teams in some way. Otherwise it will kill even more the weaker teams. The teams with ABs already get more money for their players so they are more likely to stay. If only 2 or 3 qualify it will make it more uneven without the weaker teams also getting a share of the money earned

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    @Crucial said in So World club championship?:

    My issue is the nature of having a select 16 from the start with no change. That will drive inequities to the comps they come from.
    Lets say that the Highlanders and Chiefs are left out from NZ. The other three franchises get more money, more games for supporter (more merch sales) and players flock to them for more opportunity meaning they can select stronger players. The other two franchises would become feeders.
    Any set up like this needs to be like a European Cup where you earn participation but even then I can see an uneven distribution of talent in our own comps just as it happens in other countries.

    It IS an "earn participation" set-up.
    Although - when it comes to the Southern Hemisphere sides... "the top seven sides from Super Rugby will qualify"... the bar is set pretty low.

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    There is already enough rugby, some would say too much, certainly for the player welfare side of things. If this sort of comp were to proceed, then realistically it would have to replace something or things but what?

    It’s just chasing £££ and $$$

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    @NTA said in So World club championship?:

    Fuck it must be that pissy little window between NH season ending and starting again.

    With an added layer of "We beat you guys so now we want a club championship because we think we can win" mentality from the north, which will get crushed by various player unions in the name of safety.

    No mate if you read it they talking about cutting NH comp ie no finals etc, so would think they would expect the same down here, once every 4 years. I still struggle to see it being that great, but guess if someone is going to put up enough money , are any unions/clubs finacially well off enough to say f*** off?
    I still fail to be convinced it will get any traction.

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    Most ideas like this are based on things that have been tried in soccer football.
    Didn't their concept like this prove a fizzer?

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    @Dan54 said in So World club championship?:

    No mate if you read it

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    This is the Fern!

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    It's an annual story. Somebody floats it. It dies.

    About time for the annual Hybrid Union-League story out of Australia ...

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    @booboo said in So World club championship?:

    It's an annual story. Somebody floats it. It dies.

    About time for the annual Hybrid Union-League story out of Australia ...

    Isn't that just Western force twiggy ball?

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    @Machpants kinda ... but that was usually rugby with some rule changes.

    Usually some ex-Wallabies come out and spout some bullshit about the All Blacks versing* the Kaneroos in some sort of loigue game with maybe lineouts added and no flankers and how the world is going to fall in love with the greatest game in the woooorld.. and nothing happens

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    @Machpants I think you're confusing it with rapid rugby (that's twiggy ball).

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    @Stargazer said in So World club championship?:

    @Machpants I think you're confusing it with rapid rugby (that's twiggy ball).

    Yup some sort of shit hybrid was my point, no one wants it.

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    What happened to that bullshit that Hansen was being paid to tout.

    Can't even remember how many aside it was going to he I was that interested.

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    Apparently this is a go-er:

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    Sixteen teams: eight from the Champions Cup, seven from Super Rugby Pacific, and one from Japan.

    Four pools of four, with semis and a final.

    Will replace the knockout stages of the Champion's Cup every four years and would see the domestic finals all brought forward in the calendar.

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    No Americas?

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    @Bones said in So World club championship?:

    No Americas?

    At this stage, no side from the Americas would be worth a shot.

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    @Bones said in So World club championship?:

    No Americas?

    Or Wales

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    @MiketheSnow said in So World club championship?:

    @Bones said in So World club championship?:

    No Americas?

    Or Wales

    Wales Argentina should do a combined Patagonia.

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