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Hurricanes 2023

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  • M Mackerzzzz

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129366622/jason-ryan-to-join-all-blacks-coaching-team-as-john-plumtree-brad-mooar-sacked

    I wonder if plum will come back to the Canes?

    He may not have been a good ABs coach, but he was OK for hurricanes. And anybody is better than what's there at the moment

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    @Mackerzzzz said in Hurricanes 2023:

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129366622/jason-ryan-to-join-all-blacks-coaching-team-as-john-plumtree-brad-mooar-sacked

    I wonder if plum will come back to the Canes?

    He may not have been a good ABs coach, but he was OK for hurricanes. And anybody is better than what's there at the moment

    I hope not. The decline started when Boyd left.
    Besides, they won't demote Holland. Don't think for a minute that Plumtree will join the Canes as Holland's assistant.

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      Come to think of it, didn't I read on here that Chris Boyd is back in NZ? Bring him back with Plumtree, and Holland can drop down another peg

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      • canefanC canefan

        Come to think of it, didn't I read on here that Chris Boyd is back in NZ? Bring him back with Plumtree, and Holland can drop down another peg

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        @canefan said in Hurricanes 2023:

        Come to think of it, didn't I read on here that Chris Boyd is back in NZ? Bring him back with Plumtree, and Holland can drop down another peg

        Boyd back on board with Plumtree and Holland up to the ABs as assistant....

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          @canefan said in Hurricanes 2023:

          Come to think of it, didn't I read on here that Chris Boyd is back in NZ? Bring him back with Plumtree, and Holland can drop down another peg

          Boyd back on board with Plumtree and Holland up to the ABs as assistant....

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          @gt12 said in Hurricanes 2023:

          @canefan said in Hurricanes 2023:

          Come to think of it, didn't I read on here that Chris Boyd is back in NZ? Bring him back with Plumtree, and Holland can drop down another peg

          Boyd back on board with Plumtree and Holland up to the ABs as assistant....

          NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

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            Congrats Canes fan it's Official y'all got Big Match Brett!

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              BC is the new DC

              https://www.instagram.com/p/Cgc3kqEhfQh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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                Media release:

                https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/whanganui-born-first-five-brett-cameron-signs-with-the-hurricanes/

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                • canefanC canefan

                  https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300642895/ngani-laumape-might-find-resurgence-in-new-zealand-rugby

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                  @canefan said in Hurricanes 2023:

                  https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300642895/ngani-laumape-might-find-resurgence-in-new-zealand-rugby

                  Read somewhere that he is back in France now. The article said his family found it hard to settle in Paris so eh returned in the off season. Also his form wasn't great

                  Would be good but surprised if he returns. 29 now and the money overseas would be much better

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    Media release:

                    https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/whanganui-born-first-five-brett-cameron-signs-with-the-hurricanes/

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                    @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                    Media release:

                    https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/whanganui-born-first-five-brett-cameron-signs-with-the-hurricanes/

                    I don't think Morgan or Love are ready yet. So hope he steps up. And has a VG clearing punt

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                      @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                      Media release:

                      https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/whanganui-born-first-five-brett-cameron-signs-with-the-hurricanes/

                      I don't think Morgan or Love are ready yet. So hope he steps up. And has a VG clearing punt

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                      @Winger Definitely an upgrade from JGB. Cameron can run, too!

                      Agree about Morgan and Love, although I think Morgan has already shown more potential at 10 than Love.

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                        @Winger Definitely an upgrade from JGB. Cameron can run, too!

                        Agree about Morgan and Love, although I think Morgan has already shown more potential at 10 than Love.

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                        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                        @Winger Definitely an upgrade from JGB. Cameron can run, too!

                        Agree about Morgan and Love, although I think Morgan has already shown more potential at 10 than Love.

                        I feel like Morgan will be better than Cameron long term but at the raw age of 20 he's not ready to take on the role week in, week out. I think Cameron will start in the big games for us in 2023/2024, whereas Morgan (who is already better than someone like JGB) will get occasional start to ensure he progresses his development.

                        I think you'll find that Love will probably move away from that position and focus purely on 15, where I think he's more effective with his speed. (as seen against Ireland).

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                          @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                          @Winger Definitely an upgrade from JGB. Cameron can run, too!

                          Agree about Morgan and Love, although I think Morgan has already shown more potential at 10 than Love.

                          I feel like Morgan will be better than Cameron long term but at the raw age of 20 he's not ready to take on the role week in, week out. I think Cameron will start in the big games for us in 2023/2024, whereas Morgan (who is already better than someone like JGB) will get occasional start to ensure he progresses his development.

                          I think you'll find that Love will probably move away from that position and focus purely on 15, where I think he's more effective with his speed. (as seen against Ireland).

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                          @Canes4life Yep, 15 seems to suit Love more. That's why I have my doubts about Godfrey signing with the Canes. He'd never get game time. Not at his preferred 10 position, and not at 15. Unless, as I supsect, he's better than some of the already contracted players. Which wouldn't surprise me at all.

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                            @Canes4life Yep, 15 seems to suit Love more. That's why I have my doubts about Godfrey signing with the Canes. He'd never get game time. Not at his preferred 10 position, and not at 15. Unless, as I supsect, he's better than some of the already contracted players. Which wouldn't surprise me at all.

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                            @Stargazer yeah, we have quite a few good young 10/15s coming through. If you add in Moorby playing fullback and Jordie switching between 12/15 it’s certainly not a problem area going forward.

                            Can Godfrey play 14 maybe?

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                              @Stargazer yeah, we have quite a few good young 10/15s coming through. If you add in Moorby playing fullback and Jordie switching between 12/15 it’s certainly not a problem area going forward.

                              Can Godfrey play 14 maybe?

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                              @Canes4life He's a great prospect at 10; also a great prospect at 15. Why on earth would you move him to another spot, just to fit him in? He may just be better off somewhere else.

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                                @Canes4life He's a great prospect at 10; also a great prospect at 15. Why on earth would you move him to another spot, just to fit him in? He may just be better off somewhere else.

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                                @Stargazer because he has the skillset. I.e Cory Jane was a fullback but 14 ended up being his best position. If he can ply multiple positions then he’s definitely a player the Canes won’t want to let slip through their grasp.

                                At the end of the day 15 isn't too dissimilar to the right wing in the modern game.

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  @Stargazer because he has the skillset. I.e Cory Jane was a fullback but 14 ended up being his best position. If he can ply multiple positions then he’s definitely a player the Canes won’t want to let slip through their grasp.

                                  At the end of the day 15 isn't too dissimilar to the right wing in the modern game.

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                                  @Canes4life He has - for someone so young - already great game management skills. Those skills would be wasted on the wing. I've nothing against moving Love to the wing though. 😉

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                                    @Stargazer yeah, we have quite a few good young 10/15s coming through. If you add in Moorby playing fullback and Jordie switching between 12/15 it’s certainly not a problem area going forward.

                                    Can Godfrey play 14 maybe?

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                                    @Canes4life any first five being played on the wing would remind me of Todd Blackadder playing Colin Slade on the wing at the crusaders🙂😂

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                                      @Canes4life any first five being played on the wing would remind me of Todd Blackadder playing Colin Slade on the wing at the crusaders🙂😂

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                                      @FakatavaAllBlack Godfrey is more of a fullback than a first five isn’t he? If he’s trying to crack the Canes as a first five I think he’s better to look elsewhere. Where that is I’m not sure because he’ll be behind talented players wherever he goes.

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                                        @FakatavaAllBlack Godfrey is more of a fullback than a first five isn’t he? If he’s trying to crack the Canes as a first five I think he’s better to look elsewhere. Where that is I’m not sure because he’ll be behind talented players wherever he goes.

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                                        @Canes4life Godfrey was a 1st 5 at Whanganui Collegiate in combination with Adam Lennox (halfback).

                                        With Love and Morgan, in the NZ age-group teams they've played in together, Morgan has always been the 1st 5. Love has more utility value so could play in other positions. In the NZ Schools game against Aust, he started on the wing and ended up at 2nd 5.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @Winger Definitely an upgrade from JGB. Cameron can run, too!

                                          Agree about Morgan and Love, although I think Morgan has already shown more potential at 10 than Love.

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                                          @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                          @Winger Definitely an upgrade from JGB. Cameron can run, too!

                                          Agree about Morgan and Love, although I think Morgan has already shown more potential at 10 than Love.

                                          I haven't seen him play but I hope he's good. Hes been pumped up playing for Manawatu

                                          But comparing him to JGB. He lost form after he returned from injury and was close to useless. He was never great but did have some good games before he was out for a year or so.

                                          What about Jordie Barrett. We need to keep him but so far I haven't read anything about his plans. He's easily our best back now. While some are rated I think all the rest have limitations.

                                          Im unsure if the Canes try to attract top players and can't or just can't identify potential AB talent now. Chiefs are still doing well but Hurricanes like the Highlanders are missing out

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