Rugby Championship 2022
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I forgot there was no extra Bled.
FFS the web dude at allblacks.com needs a slapping. So there is only one Bled, and it is not part of the RC? They both should be in one or the other. And could they fucking put them in chronological order!
@Machpants Indeed, that table on the official website is awful. Amateurs!
Just in case it still needs clarification, both tests beween NZ and Australia are part of the RC, and both are for the Bledisloe Cup.
It's correct that they've reduced the number of Bledisloe Cup tests from three to two though.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/127878956/all-blacks-v-wallabies-bledisloe-cup-series-to-be-reduced-from-three-tests-to-two -
Also posted in the Aussie Rugby thread:
https://wallabies.rugby/news/wallabies-confirm-squad-for-argentina-tour-2022720
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Pumas squad
Media release in Spanish:
https://www.uar.com.ar/2022/07/20/los-pumas-para-la-serie-con-australia-por-el-rugby-championship/
Article in English:
https://www.americasrugbynews.com/2022/07/20/lucas-mensa-one-of-three-pumas-call-ups-for-rugby-championship/ -
Pumas squad
Media release in Spanish:
https://www.uar.com.ar/2022/07/20/los-pumas-para-la-serie-con-australia-por-el-rugby-championship/
Article in English:
https://www.americasrugbynews.com/2022/07/20/lucas-mensa-one-of-three-pumas-call-ups-for-rugby-championship/This post is deleted! -
Match officials for the RC:
https://www.world.rugby/the-game/high-performance/officiating/730029
@Stargazer is the ref for Argie 1 the Georgian who got bad wraps for SA v Wales 1?
Didn't actually watch the game, but how bad was he?
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@Tim as much as i fucking haaaaate the current framework
this is a dumb ass decision that only negatively affects the teams involved in the long run. This is never going ahead in the rest of the rugby world (where there appears to be zero appetite) so why play at all under these conditions?
Also can we stop asking Owens to have a say in anything because he occasionally said funny stuff while reffing?
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@Tim as much as i fucking haaaaate the current framework
this is a dumb ass decision that only negatively affects the teams involved in the long run. This is never going ahead in the rest of the rugby world (where there appears to be zero appetite) so why play at all under these conditions?
Also can we stop asking Owens to have a say in anything because he occasionally said funny stuff while reffing?
@mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Also can we stop asking Owens to have a say in anything because he occasionally said funny stuff while reffing?
Homophobe.
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@Tim as much as i fucking haaaaate the current framework
this is a dumb ass decision that only negatively affects the teams involved in the long run. This is never going ahead in the rest of the rugby world (where there appears to be zero appetite) so why play at all under these conditions?
Also can we stop asking Owens to have a say in anything because he occasionally said funny stuff while reffing?
@mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Tim as much as i fucking haaaaate the current framework
this is a dumb ass decision that only negatively affects the teams involved in the long run. This is never going ahead in the rest of the rugby world (where there appears to be zero appetite) so why play at all under these conditions?
Also can we stop asking Owens to have a say in anything because he occasionally said funny stuff while reffing?
Its a sad reflection that it is not seen as a positive move elsewhere, but I agree unless it garners a genuine chance of implementation elsewhere, I think its pointless playing under these rules.
If management deemed that is was seen that we needed to adapt better to the full card scenarios then this also doesn't help force change in some areas because you can potentially cope for twenty minutes
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@mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Tim as much as i fucking haaaaate the current framework
this is a dumb ass decision that only negatively affects the teams involved in the long run. This is never going ahead in the rest of the rugby world (where there appears to be zero appetite) so why play at all under these conditions?
Also can we stop asking Owens to have a say in anything because he occasionally said funny stuff while reffing?
Its a sad reflection that it is not seen as a positive move elsewhere, but I agree unless it garners a genuine chance of implementation elsewhere, I think its pointless playing under these rules.
If management deemed that is was seen that we needed to adapt better to the full card scenarios then this also doesn't help force change in some areas because you can potentially cope for twenty minutes
@bayimports said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
you can potentially cope for twenty minutes
it definitely changes your risk profiles anyway
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@Machpants Really good decision!
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The NH logic doesn't stand up.
Does a 'full' RC in the 61st minute therefore not carry enough deterrent? Therefore are players likely to be more deliberately reckless at that point in the game?
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@Tim as much as i fucking haaaaate the current framework
this is a dumb ass decision that only negatively affects the teams involved in the long run. This is never going ahead in the rest of the rugby world (where there appears to be zero appetite) so why play at all under these conditions?
Also can we stop asking Owens to have a say in anything because he occasionally said funny stuff while reffing?
@mariner4life yeah this really is the ambulance stuck on a ledge halfway down the cliff!
Needs to be some work done with players, coaches, refs as well as plenty of rules or interpretations need work to reduce the number of cards.
Only need to look at the ass of humanity that is social media to see all the calls for more cards! Man, imagine if Mealamu & Tana had tried to murder BoD in the age of social media!!
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@bayimports said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
you can potentially cope for twenty minutes
it definitely changes your risk profiles anyway
@mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@bayimports said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
you can potentially cope for twenty minutes
it definitely changes your risk profiles anyway
Agreed. We become more accepting of actions that can lead to RCs. That's not going to help us outside of this comp.
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@mariner4life yeah this really is the ambulance stuck on a ledge halfway down the cliff!
Needs to be some work done with players, coaches, refs as well as plenty of rules or interpretations need work to reduce the number of cards.
Only need to look at the ass of humanity that is social media to see all the calls for more cards! Man, imagine if Mealamu & Tana had tried to murder BoD in the age of social media!!
@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@mariner4life yeah this really is the ambulance stuck on a ledge halfway down the cliff!
Needs to be some work done with players, coaches, refs as well as plenty of rules or interpretations need work to reduce the number of cards.
Only need to look at the ass of humanity that is social media to see all the calls for more cards! Man, imagine if Mealamu & Tana had tried to murder BoD in the age of social media!!
that really depends on the direction of the card. I saw much much less after test 3 than i did after, say, test 1 and 2?
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Vast majority of these RCs are 'foul play' due to being adjudged as reckless. That should be a difficult judgement to make from short slo-mo clips shown on stadium screens.
I would be more than happy for YCs and a judiciary appearance (on report) in these cases.
In no way does that mean acceptance of poor technique (which is what they are trying to achieve). Maybe the addition of fines (proceeds to player welfare organisations) would ensure more corporate adherence to the principles of risk reduced technique via coaching. -
@Bovidae pity SA don't play the game later. 5-7am would just mean up early. But 3-5am is too early and too late
@Winger said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Bovidae pity SA don't play the game later. 5-7am would just mean up early. But 3-5am is too early and too late
Yuck. I only just realised that. Back to the old days of cheese toasties and milo in the early hours.
