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  • boobooB booboo

    Question, and it's probably been mentioned ( @Stargazer ?), and I can make a guess as to the reason ...

    ... but why do the chicks go straight to Semi Finals, but the blokes have QFs?

    Insufficient competitive Commonwealth teams in women's comp?

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    @booboo said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - Sevens:

    Question, and it's probably been mentioned ( @Stargazer ?), and I can make a guess as to the reason ...

    ... but why do the chicks go straight to Semi Finals, but the blokes have QFs?

    Insufficient competitive Commonwealth teams in women's comp?

    A numbers game. The quarters would be a bit meaningless as you'd have the third placed pool teams.

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      @booboo said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - Sevens:

      Question, and it's probably been mentioned ( @Stargazer ?), and I can make a guess as to the reason ...

      ... but why do the chicks go straight to Semi Finals, but the blokes have QFs?

      Insufficient competitive Commonwealth teams in women's comp?

      A numbers game. The quarters would be a bit meaningless as you'd have the third placed pool teams.

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      @Crucial said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - Sevens:

      @booboo said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - Sevens:

      Question, and it's probably been mentioned ( @Stargazer ?), and I can make a guess as to the reason ...

      ... but why do the chicks go straight to Semi Finals, but the blokes have QFs?

      Insufficient competitive Commonwealth teams in women's comp?

      A numbers game. The quarters would be a bit meaningless as you'd have the third placed pool teams.

      That's kinda the point of my last question. Not enough to make 16 competitive teams?

      I obviously didn't take any interest in the comp set up.

      Only two pools of 4...

      New Zealand Australia
      Canada Fiji
      England Scotland
      Sri Lanka South Africa

      No:

      • Wales
      • Tonga
      • Samoa

      I suspect any teams additional to them would be dubious quality.

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      • boobooB booboo

        @Crucial said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - Sevens:

        @booboo said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - Sevens:

        Question, and it's probably been mentioned ( @Stargazer ?), and I can make a guess as to the reason ...

        ... but why do the chicks go straight to Semi Finals, but the blokes have QFs?

        Insufficient competitive Commonwealth teams in women's comp?

        A numbers game. The quarters would be a bit meaningless as you'd have the third placed pool teams.

        That's kinda the point of my last question. Not enough to make 16 competitive teams?

        I obviously didn't take any interest in the comp set up.

        Only two pools of 4...

        New Zealand Australia
        Canada Fiji
        England Scotland
        Sri Lanka South Africa

        No:

        • Wales
        • Tonga
        • Samoa

        I suspect any teams additional to them would be dubious quality.

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        @booboo said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - Sevens:

        @Crucial said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - Sevens:

        @booboo said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - Sevens:

        Question, and it's probably been mentioned ( @Stargazer ?), and I can make a guess as to the reason ...

        ... but why do the chicks go straight to Semi Finals, but the blokes have QFs?

        Insufficient competitive Commonwealth teams in women's comp?

        A numbers game. The quarters would be a bit meaningless as you'd have the third placed pool teams.

        That's kinda the point of my last question. Not enough to make 16 competitive teams?

        I obviously didn't take any interest in the comp set up.

        Only two pools of 4...

        New Zealand Australia
        Canada Fiji
        England Scotland
        Sri Lanka South Africa

        No:

        • Wales
        • Tonga
        • Samoa

        I suspect any teams additional to them would be dubious quality.

        Would be even lighter if it was a GB team. Hopefully the womens game gets going in places like Kenya and Uganda like it did in Fiji.

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        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

          Good match

          That Aussie winger is a gun

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          @MiketheSnow said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - Sevens:

          Good match

          That Aussie winger is a gun

          The Aussie women’s team are very good, well coached and have good balance. Caslick is a superstar and Levi who is still so young is coming on in leaps and bounds.

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            The Irish female team goes OK in the World Series, obviously without any players from Northern Ireland so it seems. Same must be said about the mens situation.

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              @MiketheSnow said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - Sevens:

              Good match

              That Aussie winger is a gun

              The Aussie women’s team are very good, well coached and have good balance. Caslick is a superstar and Levi who is still so young is coming on in leaps and bounds.

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              @ACT-Crusader said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - Sevens:

              @MiketheSnow said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - Sevens:

              Good match

              That Aussie winger is a gun

              The Aussie women’s team are very good, well coached and have good balance. Caslick is a superstar and Levi who is still so young is coming on in leaps and bounds.

              Her sister Teagan is also a star in the making.

              https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/meet-the-incredible-australian-sisters-being-chased-by-three-footy-codes-20220607-p5ars3.html

              Meet the ‘incredible’ Australian sisters being chased by three footy codes

              Imagine having a daughter who has been tipped to dominate professional rugby union, rugby league or Aussie rules, depending on what sport she decides to pursue.

              Imagine having another daughter, still in her teens and 16 months younger, with just as much potential who sits at the same dinner table every night.

              Imagine if those talented girls were mentored and managed by a guy like Mat Rogers, one of Australia’s most recognisable dual internationals.

              Then you’d get the Levi sisters.

              Meet Teagan (18) and Maddi (20), the close-as-could-be sisters being chased by multiple clubs across three major football codes who will make their Commonwealth Games debuts next Friday with the all-conquering women’s Australian rugby sevens side.

              Teagan and Maddi Levi were born in south-west Sydney but grew up on the Gold Coast, dreaming of travelling the world as dancers on a cruise ship.

              Now they’re dancing on the footy field.

              Described by their coach as “incredible athletes”, the pair have Rogers, the former Wallabies and Kangaroos legend, guiding them every step of the way.

              “Maddi Levi is a phenomenal athlete [who is six foot tall] ... and Teagan is just so tough,” says Australian coach Tim Walsh. “Physically and mentally, they are absolute competitors.”

              Rogers is one of Australia’s greatest code-hoppers. He played 200 NRL matches, State of Origin for Queensland and 11 league games for his country, as well as 45 Tests for the Wallabies that included a World Cup final in 2003.

              e knows a thing or two about exceeding on the world stage.

              In the late 90s, Rogers played league against a bloke named Jason Levi, who used to run out for Manly.

              The pair stayed in touch over the years - their kids both went to the same school - as they built their lives on the Gold Coast.

              Levi’s daughters might not be household names just yet, but there’s every chance they will be in the near future.

              “We come from a sporty family, which has helped our genetics,” Maddi says. “Dad played footy for Manly in the rezzies [reserves] and a few first grade games. Mum played netball.

              “Our first dream was to dance on a cruise ship. We would dance every day after school from 4pm until 9pm.

              “Now we’re travelling the world and we get to play footy.”

              When Maddi was in Year 10, she wanted to play rugby, but her mum wouldn’t let her.

              “But she let her play,” says Maddi, pointing at her younger - and shorter - sister. “Teagan had a bit of mongrel in her.”

              Once both caught the footy bug, nothing could stop the Levi sisters. They juggled Aussie rules and rugby commitments, knowing they had the luxury of doing so in their teens.

              They played Aussie rules for Miami High, then for Bond University in the QAFLW, with Maddi up front and Teagan in the midfield.

              While still chipping away at rugby - and succeeding - the pair were drafted by the Gold Coast Suns in the AFLW.

              Maddi represented Australia at the Tokyo Olympics last year before it was announced in October the pair had turned their back on Aussie rules, for the time being, to accept full-time contracts in the sevens program.

              “AFLW and NRLW is still there, which later down the track we’d love to give a go, but for now our heart is set on sevens,” Maddi says.

              “In sevens there is so much opportunity and it’s a growing sport. With the Olympics coming up and World Series [tournaments] every year, travelling the world with your best friend ... there’s no other sport that compares to that.”

              Teagan adds: “Mads has been my best friend since day one. I guess we do fight a little bit, but as we’ve grown older I wouldn’t change it for the world to finally play in an Aussie sevens team together. It’s a dream come true.”

              Maddi chimes back in. There is a synchronicity about the duo who don’t seem to stop smiling.

              “Although we’re always travelling, you’ve still got a part of home with you,” Maddi says. “She’s my biggest critic and I’m her biggest critic.”

              So, what next? Rogers, contacted by the Herald and The Age weeks after the initial interviews with the Levi sisters, said he was blown away by their ability.

              “They are in demand, I can assure you of that,” Rogers says. “We’ve had four NRL clubs want their signatures and the Gold Coast Suns have tabled an offer for Teagan. They are freak talents. They could comfortably play and excel in all three codes. They have worked their tails off.

              “In the last 12 months things have skyrocketed for them. They are just the most beautiful, humble young girls that have a work ethic of few that I’ve seen before. They just want it so badly. That’s a unique trait. With skill level and desire and work ethic, put those things together and you get freak athletes like LeBron James or Tom Trbojevic or those sort of players that dominate.

              “Their highlight reels are pretty mind-blowing.”

              The praise goes both ways.

              “Having Mat Rogers in our corner is one of the best things we have chosen to do,” Teagan says. “We did catch the back end of his career.”

              Maddi adds: “He’s played both codes, so he knows what’s best.”

              The Levi sisters are one of three sets of siblings in Birmingham competing for Australia, with the others being Angela and Jack Yu (badminton), as well as Nathan and Josh Katz (judo).

              They are certainly not the finished product. Maddi is the more established player for Australia. She scored 24 tries in 34 sevens matches during the recent World Series circuit, while Teagan is highly regarded by those inside the sevens set-up.

              Earlier this year, Australia won their first World Sevens Series title since 2018 but are chasing Commonwealth Games redemption against New Zealand, who secured a 17-12 victory in the final on the Gold Coast four years ago.

              “We want to show the world where we’ve come since the Olympics,” Maddi says.

              Post Commonwealth Games, the phone calls to Rogers will continue to roll in.

              Do the Levi sisters consider themselves a package deal? They are off contract with the sevens program at the end of 2023 but do have the 2024 Paris Olympics on their mind.

              “I wouldn’t say they’re 100 per cent a package deal, but at this stage it’s probably leaning that way,” Rogers says.

              Maddi and Teagan say they are open to going their separate ways down the track.

              “It’s not like a one-in, all-in [situation],” Maddi says.

              Teagan adds: “If you want to try and crack the team like I am - I think playing one code is what my main goal is. Hopefully I can make the Olympics. That’s a dream.

              “But it doesn’t mean I’ll shut doors to other options.”

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              • StargazerS Offline
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                I missed both games. Convincing result from the AB7s, but very disappointing to see the girls miss out on a spot in the Final. But I knew that was a strong possibility with the squad they (the Aussies) have. Now, you know why I posted this. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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                They should be able to win bronze.

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                • NTAN NTA

                  @ACT-Crusader said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - Sevens:

                  @MiketheSnow said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - Sevens:

                  Good match

                  That Aussie winger is a gun

                  The Aussie women’s team are very good, well coached and have good balance. Caslick is a superstar and Levi who is still so young is coming on in leaps and bounds.

                  Her sister Teagan is also a star in the making.

                  https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/meet-the-incredible-australian-sisters-being-chased-by-three-footy-codes-20220607-p5ars3.html

                  Meet the ‘incredible’ Australian sisters being chased by three footy codes

                  Imagine having a daughter who has been tipped to dominate professional rugby union, rugby league or Aussie rules, depending on what sport she decides to pursue.

                  Imagine having another daughter, still in her teens and 16 months younger, with just as much potential who sits at the same dinner table every night.

                  Imagine if those talented girls were mentored and managed by a guy like Mat Rogers, one of Australia’s most recognisable dual internationals.

                  Then you’d get the Levi sisters.

                  Meet Teagan (18) and Maddi (20), the close-as-could-be sisters being chased by multiple clubs across three major football codes who will make their Commonwealth Games debuts next Friday with the all-conquering women’s Australian rugby sevens side.

                  Teagan and Maddi Levi were born in south-west Sydney but grew up on the Gold Coast, dreaming of travelling the world as dancers on a cruise ship.

                  Now they’re dancing on the footy field.

                  Described by their coach as “incredible athletes”, the pair have Rogers, the former Wallabies and Kangaroos legend, guiding them every step of the way.

                  “Maddi Levi is a phenomenal athlete [who is six foot tall] ... and Teagan is just so tough,” says Australian coach Tim Walsh. “Physically and mentally, they are absolute competitors.”

                  Rogers is one of Australia’s greatest code-hoppers. He played 200 NRL matches, State of Origin for Queensland and 11 league games for his country, as well as 45 Tests for the Wallabies that included a World Cup final in 2003.

                  e knows a thing or two about exceeding on the world stage.

                  In the late 90s, Rogers played league against a bloke named Jason Levi, who used to run out for Manly.

                  The pair stayed in touch over the years - their kids both went to the same school - as they built their lives on the Gold Coast.

                  Levi’s daughters might not be household names just yet, but there’s every chance they will be in the near future.

                  “We come from a sporty family, which has helped our genetics,” Maddi says. “Dad played footy for Manly in the rezzies [reserves] and a few first grade games. Mum played netball.

                  “Our first dream was to dance on a cruise ship. We would dance every day after school from 4pm until 9pm.

                  “Now we’re travelling the world and we get to play footy.”

                  When Maddi was in Year 10, she wanted to play rugby, but her mum wouldn’t let her.

                  “But she let her play,” says Maddi, pointing at her younger - and shorter - sister. “Teagan had a bit of mongrel in her.”

                  Once both caught the footy bug, nothing could stop the Levi sisters. They juggled Aussie rules and rugby commitments, knowing they had the luxury of doing so in their teens.

                  They played Aussie rules for Miami High, then for Bond University in the QAFLW, with Maddi up front and Teagan in the midfield.

                  While still chipping away at rugby - and succeeding - the pair were drafted by the Gold Coast Suns in the AFLW.

                  Maddi represented Australia at the Tokyo Olympics last year before it was announced in October the pair had turned their back on Aussie rules, for the time being, to accept full-time contracts in the sevens program.

                  “AFLW and NRLW is still there, which later down the track we’d love to give a go, but for now our heart is set on sevens,” Maddi says.

                  “In sevens there is so much opportunity and it’s a growing sport. With the Olympics coming up and World Series [tournaments] every year, travelling the world with your best friend ... there’s no other sport that compares to that.”

                  Teagan adds: “Mads has been my best friend since day one. I guess we do fight a little bit, but as we’ve grown older I wouldn’t change it for the world to finally play in an Aussie sevens team together. It’s a dream come true.”

                  Maddi chimes back in. There is a synchronicity about the duo who don’t seem to stop smiling.

                  “Although we’re always travelling, you’ve still got a part of home with you,” Maddi says. “She’s my biggest critic and I’m her biggest critic.”

                  So, what next? Rogers, contacted by the Herald and The Age weeks after the initial interviews with the Levi sisters, said he was blown away by their ability.

                  “They are in demand, I can assure you of that,” Rogers says. “We’ve had four NRL clubs want their signatures and the Gold Coast Suns have tabled an offer for Teagan. They are freak talents. They could comfortably play and excel in all three codes. They have worked their tails off.

                  “In the last 12 months things have skyrocketed for them. They are just the most beautiful, humble young girls that have a work ethic of few that I’ve seen before. They just want it so badly. That’s a unique trait. With skill level and desire and work ethic, put those things together and you get freak athletes like LeBron James or Tom Trbojevic or those sort of players that dominate.

                  “Their highlight reels are pretty mind-blowing.”

                  The praise goes both ways.

                  “Having Mat Rogers in our corner is one of the best things we have chosen to do,” Teagan says. “We did catch the back end of his career.”

                  Maddi adds: “He’s played both codes, so he knows what’s best.”

                  The Levi sisters are one of three sets of siblings in Birmingham competing for Australia, with the others being Angela and Jack Yu (badminton), as well as Nathan and Josh Katz (judo).

                  They are certainly not the finished product. Maddi is the more established player for Australia. She scored 24 tries in 34 sevens matches during the recent World Series circuit, while Teagan is highly regarded by those inside the sevens set-up.

                  Earlier this year, Australia won their first World Sevens Series title since 2018 but are chasing Commonwealth Games redemption against New Zealand, who secured a 17-12 victory in the final on the Gold Coast four years ago.

                  “We want to show the world where we’ve come since the Olympics,” Maddi says.

                  Post Commonwealth Games, the phone calls to Rogers will continue to roll in.

                  Do the Levi sisters consider themselves a package deal? They are off contract with the sevens program at the end of 2023 but do have the 2024 Paris Olympics on their mind.

                  “I wouldn’t say they’re 100 per cent a package deal, but at this stage it’s probably leaning that way,” Rogers says.

                  Maddi and Teagan say they are open to going their separate ways down the track.

                  “It’s not like a one-in, all-in [situation],” Maddi says.

                  Teagan adds: “If you want to try and crack the team like I am - I think playing one code is what my main goal is. Hopefully I can make the Olympics. That’s a dream.

                  “But it doesn’t mean I’ll shut doors to other options.”

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                  @NTA travelling the world and going to Comms Games and Olympics is still a massive draw card for 7s compared to the AFLW and NRL womens - especially when the pay still isn’t great for footy and league just yet.

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                    I'm surprised that Ozzie 7s yellow wasn't a penalty try. Take the hair pulling out of the equation, woodman likely to score, it was only the hair pulling that slowed her down so the other defender got there.

                    Not very practical hair for contact sports, really

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                    • M Machpants

                      I'm surprised that Ozzie 7s yellow wasn't a penalty try. Take the hair pulling out of the equation, woodman likely to score, it was only the hair pulling that slowed her down so the other defender got there.

                      Not very practical hair for contact sports, really

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                      @Machpants said in Commonwealth Games (2022) - Sevens:

                      I'm surprised that Ozzie 7s yellow wasn't a penalty try. Take the hair pulling out of the equation, woodman likely to score, it was only the hair pulling that slowed her down so the other defender got there.

                      Not very practical hair for contact sports, really

                      If I remember rightly Brian O’Driscoll pulled out one of George Smiths dreads back in the day.

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                        Who was the ref in the NZ-Aust SF? Davidson?

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          Who was the ref in the NZ-Aust SF? Davidson?

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                          @Bovidae Yep.

                          https://results.birmingham2022.com/#/team-players/RUG/W/TEAM7-------------/SFNL/000100--

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                            On the long hair thing: tbh it is like jumping into a tackle for me i.e. if you leave your hair out, you're asking for an infringement.

                            You're reducing the tackle area through an unskilled means. Mens or womens - put it up.

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                              Bit embarrassing for Wales here... quite likely to lose to England after having zero idea what to do with the ball.

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                                Let's go boys!

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                                  Just channel surfing and stumbled onto Fiji vs AB7s in the semi. Hopefully the boys can go one better than the girls

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                                    One of the Fijians looks in a bad way. We started little slow but we are getting into our work now

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                                      I don't remember the last time I saw a high tackle in 7s not get carded. But there we go, Fiji swinging arm is only worth a penalty if it's against NZ.

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                                        Looks like held up in goal

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                                          Penalty try!

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