Springboks v All Blacks 2
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@Donsteppa said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Based on not much, but I was expecting a bigger roll of the dice than that.
Remember, they are only small changes away from it all clicking. So, that's a brand new front row, Frizell parachuted back in (I think Vaa'i can play 6 and would be good at it) and a change of half backs.
So what can we glean from this? Foster has no clue who his best front row are apart from the belated understanding that Taukei'aho is the no.1 hooker. Good news that Fletcher is on the bench as De Groot, Taukei'aho, Bower and Newell are all young and if developed nicely will provide NZ with a pretty good front row core. I think Ryan has had a say in that.
He doesn't think Ioane is suited to starting at 6 against the Boks. But he thinks Frizell is. OK.....Ioane to come off the bench may be an inspired move. Who knows. It does suggest the ABs will be trying to go more direct this game. Then again, it probably means they will continue spinning it wide with even fewer players in the pack capable of playing that way. Peak Foster that!
Mo'unga has been brought in to see if he can unlock the backline and win some territory with his boot. Barrett has been playing OK, but maybe Mo'unga and Havili will gel better as they've played together enough. Who knows.
There's nothing wrong with the midfield or the back 3 according to Foster. He could have dropped Jordie as Mo'unga can take kicks at goal and Jordie isn't in great form. I would have liked to have seen a back 3 of CC/SR/WJ, but I guess he's leaving that for the next coach
At least Foster has lowered the expectation level down a notch.
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@cgrant said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@stodders
Bower is 30, so not so young.isn't that prime-ish for a prop?
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Man I was just about to go to bed when I saw the team, now I'm literally too tilted to go to sleep.
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@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Frank Robinson has also shown nothing at test level
Harsh. He kept getting injured and now hes retired.
@MN5 said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Frank Robinson has also shown nothing at test level
Harsh. He kept getting injured and now hes retired.Keith showed some real aggro and go forward just a few years ago. Oh it was while camping.
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@Yeetyaah said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Man I was just about to go to bed when I saw the team, now I'm literally too tilted to go to sleep.
Just settle down.
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@Yeetyaah said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@MN5 nah man I seriously can't tell you how much seeing Frizell fucking ruins me.
3,6,7, 12,15 lucky to be there.
8, 13,14,15* arguably not playing in their best position.
Bonus feature: Sam "we looked good at training and hey it isn't right to interrupt a ref with a question" Cane as Captain.Brilliant! Good learnings all around.
*Arguably at the moment.Oh and a potential concussion case on the bench.
It's a great day to be an All Black Foster fan. Our record-breaking coach is really on a journey. -
@Yeetyaah said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@MN5 nah man I seriously can't tell you how much seeing Frizell fucking ruins me.
3,6,7, 12,15 lucky to be there.
8, 13,14,15* arguably not playing in their best position.
Bonus feature: Sam "we looked good at training and hey it isn't right to interrupt a ref with a question" Cane as Captain.Brilliant! Good learnings all around.
*Arguably at the moment.Oh and a potential concussion case on the bench.
It's a great day to be an All Black Foster fan. Our record-breaking coach is really on a journey. -
@nostrildamus I sure hope the people wanting to see Jordie at 12 aren't the same people wanting to see Rieko at 11.
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@nostrildamus I sure hope the people wanting to see Jordie at 12 aren't the same people wanting to see Rieko at 11.
I like QT, still young if rough around the edges. I don't know if JB is really a great 12 in the making, looks a bit clumsy and slow to turn IMHO and I haven't noticed a second playmaker mindset. But what do I know.
Edit: and I don't hate RI at 13. But he has some serious work ons.
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@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@nostrildamus I sure hope the people wanting to see Jordie at 12 aren't the same people wanting to see Rieko at 11.
I like QT, still young if rough around the edges. I don't know if JB is really a great 12 in the making, looks a bit clumsy and slow to turn IMHO and I haven't noticed a second playmaker mindset. But what do I know.
Edit: and I don't hate RI at 13. But he has some serious work ons.
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@chimoaus said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
TAB has us at $2.75, is that the highest ever or must be close to it.
i wouldn't back them with the 5.5 point head start either..dont think i have ever seen that as high for the ABs either
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@nostrildamus he played very well there for the canes, but appears to be struggling to readjust to fullback.
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@nostrildamus he played very well there for the canes, but appears to be struggling to readjust to fullback.
I guess 3 different game plans//strategies (12 and 15 for Canes) (15 for ABs) could get a little tough on the old muscle memory. But I thought he was a good AB 15 last year...
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@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@nostrildamus he played very well there for the canes, but appears to be struggling to readjust to fullback.
I guess 3 different game plans//strategies (12 and 15 for Canes) (15 for ABs) could get a little tough on the old muscle memory. But I thought he was a good AB 15 last year...
@nostrildamus he was. After playing 15 all season.
