Springboks v All Blacks 2
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I don't recall Jordan being as disappointing as some are suggesting. I thought he did what he needed to do. Were there some stand out errors from him I have forgotten?
@Crazy-Horse said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
I don't recall Jordan being as disappointing as some are suggesting. I thought he did what he needed to do. Were there some stand out errors from him I have forgotten?
There are some miserable pricks on here today
Jordan was fine. Yes errors, but nothing massive and he made several key contributions.
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There’s only one thing that will make this win sweeter, if the Aussies lose later today…
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
There’s only one thing that will make this win sweeter, if the Aussies lose later today…
It’s sweet as
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I don't recall Jordan being as disappointing as some are suggesting. I thought he did what he needed to do. Were there some stand out errors from him I have forgotten?
@Crazy-Horse said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
I don't recall Jordan being as disappointing as some are suggesting. I thought he did what he needed to do. Were there some stand out errors from him I have forgotten?
Jordan was very good I thought - as @mariner4life says a few errors but a hugely positive contribution overall. Put Cane away for his try - linked up wonderfully with Rieko which lead to the first 3 points - the high ball take/mark that lead to Rieko's searing break late etc
@mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
That's a good win, and anyone not giving the coach and thr captain credit for it have given up all semblance of objectivity
100% this. Excellent win.
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Every single player except BB contributed positively. I reckon nearly everyone made errors but who cares? They didn't let them get them down
Even BB contributed by getting carded and somehow galvanising the side.
Baby black front row huge. Locks big games. Shannon fucking Frizzell put in a shift. A Savea with key moments, S Cane a fucking warrior.
A Smith ran the ball which surprised the fuck out of the Boks. Mo'unga played a great passing game. Havili with some nice touches and a couple of good kicks. Ioane had a whale of a game at centre. Clarke is very difficult to handle. Jordan dealt with his kicks and took thr chance that led to the win. JBs best game for fucking ages, his game in the air was a massive change to last week.
Bench forwards all contributed. Tupaea played fucking flanker. Just a good team win.
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@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Fantastic win
Congratulations
But you won in spite of RM not because
If you think he’s the answer at 10 you’ve learned nothing
He did some very important things in terms of getting our backline going. Made some terrible errors too. But overall his intent in attack is what we needed tonight.
Yeah laughable to suggest what Mike said.
@Canes4life said it best when discussing JGB. I'd rather have rocks and diamonds than just rocks.
If Polllard had been playing for NZ it would have been a canter
What the fuck did Pollard do? Disappeared or passed it to Am? Yeah good one.
Kicked for territory
Got his backline moving
Didn't put his side under needless pressure
Didn't give up pointsAll behind a non-dominant forward pack
If he'd had the ride RM had, the margin of victory would have been greater
It worked really well. Meanwhile RM gave his forwards a sweet ride so that he could get a sweet ride.
Ha ha
Must have been watching a different game from me
I hope you keep him
Because he'll shit the bed when you least want him to
Yeah cos you'd be extremely worried if we got Barrett out there instead to steer us backwards down the pitch. I hope we keep him too, because he'll shit the bed when we least want him to... instead of all the fucking time.
Mike doesn't want Richie playing when Wales play ABs in November
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Fantastic win
Congratulations
But you won in spite of RM not because
If you think he’s the answer at 10 you’ve learned nothing
He did some very important things in terms of getting our backline going. Made some terrible errors too. But overall his intent in attack is what we needed tonight.
Yeah laughable to suggest what Mike said.
@Canes4life said it best when discussing JGB. I'd rather have rocks and diamonds than just rocks.
If Polllard had been playing for NZ it would have been a canter
What the fuck did Pollard do? Disappeared or passed it to Am? Yeah good one.
Kicked for territory
Got his backline moving
Didn't put his side under needless pressure
Didn't give up pointsAll behind a non-dominant forward pack
If he'd had the ride RM had, the margin of victory would have been greater
It worked really well. Meanwhile RM gave his forwards a sweet ride so that he could get a sweet ride.
Ha ha
Must have been watching a different game from me
I hope you keep him
Because he'll shit the bed when you least want him to
Yeah cos you'd be extremely worried if we got Barrett out there instead to steer us backwards down the pitch. I hope we keep him too, because he'll shit the bed when we least want him to... instead of all the fucking time.
Mike doesn't want Richie playing when Wales play ABs in November
Oh yes I do
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Just watching the game now. After 30 minutes the Boks are gassed and their runners are getting isolated. Their starting front row was pretty shite, especially the hooker (did he throw one straight?). Even when Mo'unga chip kicked out of the 22, they were struggling to use the ball, and Whitelock got the turnover (good Rieko Ioane tackle, only one Bok supporting the carrier).
Better link play from forwards so far. Cane's best game in a while.
AB defence a step us this week.
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Rieko really benefitted from us playing deeper on attack. It was great to see him able to run onto the ball and get a head of steam up before getting to the defensive line, he had a number of strong carries as a result throughout the match and grew in confidence.
@No-Quarter said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Rieko really benefitted from us playing deeper on attack. It was great to see him able to run into the ball and get a head of steam up before getting to the defensive line, he had a number of string carries as a result throughout the match and grew in confidence.
Anyone who says he's not a centre after that running and passing game obviously made up their mind 18 months ago and just refuses to change it.
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@No-Quarter said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Rieko really benefitted from us playing deeper on attack. It was great to see him able to run into the ball and get a head of steam up before getting to the defensive line, he had a number of string carries as a result throughout the match and grew in confidence.
Anyone who says he's not a centre after that running and passing game obviously made up their mind 18 months ago and just refuses to change it.
Who looked the better 12? QT or DH?
Jordan was in recovery from illness wasn't he? I would not expect him to be 100%.Hope to see more of the younger props-the older ones just haven't been stepping up IMHO.
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@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Am's a very good player but fuck me Clarke should never have missed that tackle.
That was a really soft miss, absolutely no mitigation.
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@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Am's a very good player but fuck me Clarke should never have missed that tackle.
That was a really soft miss, absolutely no mitigation.
@mariner4life The short bomb exit from the 22 to no one by Havili was crazy.
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@mariner4life The short bomb exit from the 22 to no one by Havili was crazy.
@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@mariner4life The short bomb exit from the 22 to no one by Havili was crazy.
The whole game changes right there. I don't know but it looks like he got caught in 2 minds about long or high and so just fluffed it.
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@mariner4life The short bomb exit from the 22 to no one by Havili was crazy.
@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@mariner4life The short bomb exit from the 22 to no one by Havili was crazy.
I just curled up into the fetal position and refused to look at the TV. By the time I had summoned the courage, the Boks were in. Just friggen WHY?
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Oh I thought the ref was really good too. Couple of rulings pissed me off, but if I am honest it's because they went against us.
There was only one I thought was complete bullshit, but then the cameras may not have seen what he saw
(We got called for lifting the player in a maul and I thought he just got squeezed up from pressure)
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@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@mariner4life The short bomb exit from the 22 to no one by Havili was crazy.
The whole game changes right there. I don't know but it looks like he got caught in 2 minds about long or high and so just fluffed it.
@mariner4life The good bok front row got a scrum penalty first pop. Think ratings would look different if they had started the same pack as last week ...
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@mariner4life The good bok front row got a scrum penalty first pop. Think ratings would look different if they had started the same pack as last week ...
@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@mariner4life The good bok front row got a scrum penalty first pop. Think ratings would look different if they had started the same pack as last week ...
Just an insanely stupid tactic.
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@mariner4life The good bok front row got a scrum penalty first pop. Think ratings would look different if they had started the same pack as last week ...
@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@mariner4life The good bok front row got a scrum penalty first pop. Think ratings would look different if they had started the same pack as last week ...
On scrum penalties, the one late in the second half where we got penalised, the ref missed the first Bok front rower that stood up and as Bower pushed forward he went up as well. Very harsh penalty against us.
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Who looked the better 12? QT or DH?
Jordan was in recovery from illness wasn't he? I would not expect him to be 100%.Hope to see more of the younger props-the older ones just haven't been stepping up IMHO.
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Yew! Too much! Great game good win!!
Not perfect but then who is?? Huge Improvement in 7 days in a couple of key areas and she was a different game.
Took a little while to stick, but then the Cane try was fucking gorgeous and from there we took charge. SA didn't go away but after our 2nd try they were fucked.
Then the whole game changed in an instant. The Boks subbed their starting front row for actual good players. And we completely stuffed that exit. We were basically 2nd best from then until strangely BB got carded. Game ground to a halt with penalties and errors and we got ground down
But the last 10 was fucking sensational.
Huge improvement up front. Huge improvement in the air. Far more simple on attack. Completely different game.
That's a good win, and anyone not giving the coach and thr captain credit for it have given up all semblance of objectivity
@mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
That's a good win, and anyone not giving the coach and thr captain credit for it have given up all semblance of objectivity
Absolutely not. Although I have never been bagging Cane anyway, so I don't have to stop.
Your position appears to be that our season has been so far, by game: 1) excellent, 2) dire, 3) even more dire, 4) even direr yet, 5) excellent no worries at all, anywhere, we're good to go.
I'm not buying that any of our problems have been fixed, except by accident (BB being sore) and the injection of a good forwards coach (forced onto the head coach).
We're still playing two open-side flankers, a centre at wing, a terrible reserve hooker and an unreliable 2nd five. We still struggle with exit plays, drop the ball a lot, kick the ball poorly in general play and leak very soft tries.
Foster does this. His teams look excellent with the wind behind their sails and when things go well. Then suddenly, at the first sign of stormy weather, the boat goes down.
