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Hurricanes 2023

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    It will be interesting whether Jordie will play at 12 at all for the Canes, next season, especially as he's unlikely to play there for the All Blacks. If he does, it won't do his chances of All Blacks starts at fullback any favours. He may well lose the black 15 jersey to Jordan, Dmac or BB.

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    @Stargazer If I were Jordie Barrett and looked at Will Jordan as my competition at 15 and David Havili at 12, I know which fight I'd pick.

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      @Stargazer If I were Jordie Barrett and looked at Will Jordan as my competition at 15 and David Havili at 12, I know which fight I'd pick.

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      @reprobate Yep, but he's not in control. The selectors are and they've made it clear they see him as a fullback.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @reprobate Yep, but he's not in control. The selectors are and they've made it clear they see him as a fullback.

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        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

        @reprobate Yep, but he's not in control. The selectors are and they've made it clear they see him as a fullback.

        He needs to find out where Razor sees his position....

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        • HigginsH Higgins

          @Nepia I will come to the defence of @Canes4life here. He has stopped fluffing Alex Fidow (and to a leser extent Xavier Numia) for about 18 months now. Whether that is because he no longer falls into the young Wellington players category or he has finally accepted and agreed with me that Mr. Fidow will never master the arts for propping to be effective at any level over Premier Reserve club level (Ories don't always start him at prop).

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          @Higgins said in Hurricanes 2023:

          @Nepia I will come to the defence of @Canes4life here. He has stopped fluffing Alex Fidow (and to a leser extent Xavier Numia) for about 18 months now. Whether that is because he no longer falls into the young Wellington players category or he has finally accepted and agreed with me that Mr. Fidow will never master the arts for propping to be effective at any level over Premier Reserve club level (Ories don't always start him at prop).

          Where’s Fidow off to? I know he’s playing Harbour in NPC but is he off overseas after that? Still v.young and might round out his game with a stint in Europe for a few years.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @reprobate Yep, but he's not in control. The selectors are and they've made it clear they see him as a fullback.

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            @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @reprobate Yep, but he's not in control. The selectors are and they've made it clear they see him as a fullback.

            He’s probably betting that Razor takes over at some point soon and we all know Robertson sees him as a 12 just as much as he sees him as a fullback.

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              More on Laumape

              I think the likelihood of him returning to the Canes is close to zero. He will make a lot more money elsewhere

              https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/ngani-laumape-posts-intriguing-goosebumps-tweet-from-wellington/ar-AA10NnA7?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=177563a99a78427eb96ecf563cadbbde

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                On the NPC 2022 thread. Shame the way NZR treated him.

                Ngani Laumape continues to train with the Turbos and while he would like to wear black again, and to do so would have to play for Manawatū, he will be joining Panasonic in Japan.
                

                Wonder when we will all hear what Barrett is doing.

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                • WingerW Winger

                  On the NPC 2022 thread. Shame the way NZR treated him.

                  Ngani Laumape continues to train with the Turbos and while he would like to wear black again, and to do so would have to play for Manawatū, he will be joining Panasonic in Japan.
                  

                  Wonder when we will all hear what Barrett is doing.

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                  @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

                  On the NPC 2022 thread. Shame the way NZR treated him.

                  Ngani Laumape continues to train with the Turbos and while he would like to wear black again, and to do so would have to play for Manawatū, he will be joining Panasonic in Japan.
                  

                  Wonder when we will all hear what Barrett is doing.

                  He will stay at the Canes I think.

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

                    On the NPC 2022 thread. Shame the way NZR treated him.

                    Ngani Laumape continues to train with the Turbos and while he would like to wear black again, and to do so would have to play for Manawatū, he will be joining Panasonic in Japan.
                    

                    Wonder when we will all hear what Barrett is doing.

                    He will stay at the Canes I think.

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                    @Chris said in Hurricanes 2023:

                    @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

                    On the NPC 2022 thread. Shame the way NZR treated him.

                    Ngani Laumape continues to train with the Turbos and while he would like to wear black again, and to do so would have to play for Manawatū, he will be joining Panasonic in Japan.
                    

                    Wonder when we will all hear what Barrett is doing.

                    He will stay at the Canes I think.

                    Hope so. Canes are not the team they were and losing Barrett would be a blow. I want 5 strong teams too so Canes and Highlanders need to keep their best players

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                    • WingerW Winger

                      @Chris said in Hurricanes 2023:

                      @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

                      On the NPC 2022 thread. Shame the way NZR treated him.

                      Ngani Laumape continues to train with the Turbos and while he would like to wear black again, and to do so would have to play for Manawatū, he will be joining Panasonic in Japan.
                      

                      Wonder when we will all hear what Barrett is doing.

                      He will stay at the Canes I think.

                      Hope so. Canes are not the team they were and losing Barrett would be a blow. I want 5 strong teams too so Canes and Highlanders need to keep their best players

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                      @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

                      @Chris said in Hurricanes 2023:

                      @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

                      On the NPC 2022 thread. Shame the way NZR treated him.

                      Ngani Laumape continues to train with the Turbos and while he would like to wear black again, and to do so would have to play for Manawatū, he will be joining Panasonic in Japan.
                      

                      Wonder when we will all hear what Barrett is doing.

                      He will stay at the Canes I think.

                      Hope so. Canes are not the team they were and losing Barrett would be a blow. I want 5 strong teams too so Canes and Highlanders need to keep their best players

                      Agreed we don't want SR weakened anymore.

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                        @reprobate Yep, but he's not in control. The selectors are and they've made it clear they see him as a fullback.

                        He needs to find out where Razor sees his position....

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                        @canefan said in Hurricanes 2023:

                        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                        @reprobate Yep, but he's not in control. The selectors are and they've made it clear they see him as a fullback.

                        He needs to find out where Razor sees his position....

                        Razor was saying even last year if he could sign any player outside the squad he has got it would be Jordie. And I have heard him say before that he likes Jordie at 12.

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                        • Dan54D Dan54

                          @canefan said in Hurricanes 2023:

                          @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                          @reprobate Yep, but he's not in control. The selectors are and they've made it clear they see him as a fullback.

                          He needs to find out where Razor sees his position....

                          Razor was saying even last year if he could sign any player outside the squad he has got it would be Jordie. And I have heard him say before that he likes Jordie at 12.

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                          @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                          @canefan said in Hurricanes 2023:

                          @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                          @reprobate Yep, but he's not in control. The selectors are and they've made it clear they see him as a fullback.

                          He needs to find out where Razor sees his position....

                          Razor was saying even last year if he could sign any player outside the squad he has got it would be Jordie. And I have heard him say before that he likes Jordie at 12.

                          What would he then do with the incumbent AB 12? Move him to fullback? Oh, that's right he already has the AB 14 that he says should be at 15.

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                            Although some player signings haven't been confirmed, sometimes instagram/FB posts can give us clues:

                            The re-signing of PU-J, Rakete-Stones and Iose, for example, hasn't been announced but they appear in this post (from 22 August 2022).

                            https://www.instagram.com/p/ChjjwLTPgEE/

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              Although some player signings haven't been confirmed, sometimes instagram/FB posts can give us clues:

                              The re-signing of PU-J, Rakete-Stones and Iose, for example, hasn't been announced but they appear in this post (from 22 August 2022).

                              https://www.instagram.com/p/ChjjwLTPgEE/

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                              @Stargazer PUJ😔

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                Although some player signings haven't been confirmed, sometimes instagram/FB posts can give us clues:

                                The re-signing of PU-J, Rakete-Stones and Iose, for example, hasn't been announced but they appear in this post (from 22 August 2022).

                                https://www.instagram.com/p/ChjjwLTPgEE/

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                                @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                Although some player signings haven't been confirmed, sometimes instagram/FB posts can give us clues:

                                The re-signing of PU-J, Rakete-Stones and Iose, for example, hasn't been announced but they appear in this post (from 22 August 2022).

                                https://www.instagram.com/p/ChjjwLTPgEE/

                                Man, Savea looks so old in that post. Time to move on I'd say.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  Although some player signings haven't been confirmed, sometimes instagram/FB posts can give us clues:

                                  The re-signing of PU-J, Rakete-Stones and Iose, for example, hasn't been announced but they appear in this post (from 22 August 2022).

                                  https://www.instagram.com/p/ChjjwLTPgEE/

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                                  @Stargazer You’d have to think they’d be staying based entirely on the fact that they weren’t included in the farewell post the likes of JGB and O’Reilly got.

                                  On a side note I thought Rakete-Stones and a Iose had another year left.

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                                    @Stargazer You’d have to think they’d be staying based entirely on the fact that they weren’t included in the farewell post the likes of JGB and O’Reilly got.

                                    On a side note I thought Rakete-Stones and a Iose had another year left.

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                                    @mikey07 If contract negotiations were still ongoing at the time they posted those farewell posts, they obviously couldn't say anything about those players returning, or not returning. For example, if they were - at the time - talking to one of those player's agent, another franchise (or overseas club) could still have made an offer they couldn't refuse.

                                    No, R-S and Iose's contracts expired this year.

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                      Although some player signings haven't been confirmed, sometimes instagram/FB posts can give us clues:

                                      The re-signing of PU-J, Rakete-Stones and Iose, for example, hasn't been announced but they appear in this post (from 22 August 2022).

                                      https://www.instagram.com/p/ChjjwLTPgEE/

                                      Man, Savea looks so old in that post. Time to move on I'd say.

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                                      @Canes4life Jules was in the same NZ 20's side as 1 of his coaches Tyler Bleyendal and then the yr after the same Canes side as another coach CJ🙂

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                                      • M mikey07

                                        @Stargazer You’d have to think they’d be staying based entirely on the fact that they weren’t included in the farewell post the likes of JGB and O’Reilly got.

                                        On a side note I thought Rakete-Stones and a Iose had another year left.

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                                        @mikey07 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @Stargazer You’d have to think they’d be staying based entirely on the fact that they weren’t included in the farewell post the likes of JGB and O’Reilly got.

                                        On a side note I thought Rakete-Stones and a Iose had another year left.

                                        I haven't kept up with signings until now, but would suggest if O'Reilly going, he will be a loss, while never a top line hooker, he is handy in the squad, Amosa and Colsey need back up, and disappoint me a bit that Canes didn't sign Tyrone Thompson from HB, really thing he's got a pretty good future.

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                                        • Dan54D Dan54

                                          @mikey07 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                          @Stargazer You’d have to think they’d be staying based entirely on the fact that they weren’t included in the farewell post the likes of JGB and O’Reilly got.

                                          On a side note I thought Rakete-Stones and a Iose had another year left.

                                          I haven't kept up with signings until now, but would suggest if O'Reilly going, he will be a loss, while never a top line hooker, he is handy in the squad, Amosa and Colsey need back up, and disappoint me a bit that Canes didn't sign Tyrone Thompson from HB, really thing he's got a pretty good future.

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                                          @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                          @mikey07 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                          @Stargazer You’d have to think they’d be staying based entirely on the fact that they weren’t included in the farewell post the likes of JGB and O’Reilly got.

                                          On a side note I thought Rakete-Stones and a Iose had another year left.

                                          I haven't kept up with signings until now, but would suggest if O'Reilly going, he will be a loss, while never a top line hooker, he is handy in the squad, Amosa and Colsey need back up, and disappoint me a bit that Canes didn't sign Tyrone Thompson from HB, really thing he's got a pretty good future.

                                          He might want to go. Otherwise its strnage that he's been let go. He was good this year in super rugby when he played. And Coles won't be around for too much longer

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