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All Blacks v Pumas 1

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @Tim Knock as in head knock? He's already had lots of concussion problems the last few years. Quite a worry.

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    @Stargazer No further details, unfortunately.

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      Foster might still get a hostile crowd reception but selecting Mo'unga in a Chch test will certainly help his cause. I don't expect any changes to the starting XV.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        Foster might still get a hostile crowd reception but selecting Mo'unga in a Chch test will certainly help his cause. I don't expect any changes to the starting XV.

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        @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

        Foster might still get a hostile crowd reception but selecting Mo'unga in a Chch test will certainly help his cause. I don't expect any changes to the starting XV.

        I know a backline that would endear him to the Chch crowd….

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        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

          @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

          Foster might still get a hostile crowd reception but selecting Mo'unga in a Chch test will certainly help his cause. I don't expect any changes to the starting XV.

          I know a backline that would endear him to the Chch crowd….

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          @ACT-Crusader Would they even notice with the eye patch on? 😉

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          • FrankF Frank

            Would love to see how Perofeta goes at 10 after Mounga has played the first 60 or so(assuming we can afford to bring him on)

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            @Frank said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

            Would love to see how Perofeta goes at 10 after Mounga has played the first 60 or so(assuming we can afford to bring him on)

            Taranaki didn't bother starting him at 10 on the weekend. That would have been an ideal time to give him a run there.

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            • TimT Tim

              https://twitter.com/liamnapiernz/status/1561866726232424448?s=20&t=LtjPy_XfGB5fc8ljyHAtTA

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              @Tim said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

              https://twitter.com/liamnapiernz/status/1561866726232424448?s=20&t=LtjPy_XfGB5fc8ljyHAtTA

              It’s a tad concerning that his noggin is copping quite a few knocks lately.

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                @Tim said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                https://twitter.com/liamnapiernz/status/1561866726232424448?s=20&t=LtjPy_XfGB5fc8ljyHAtTA

                It’s a tad concerning that his noggin is copping quite a few knocks lately.

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                @pakman said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                @Tim said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                https://twitter.com/liamnapiernz/status/1561866726232424448?s=20&t=LtjPy_XfGB5fc8ljyHAtTA

                It’s a tad concerning that his noggin is copping quite a few knocks lately.

                Has it been confirmed that his noggin took the knock?

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @pakman said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                  @Tim said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                  https://twitter.com/liamnapiernz/status/1561866726232424448?s=20&t=LtjPy_XfGB5fc8ljyHAtTA

                  It’s a tad concerning that his noggin is copping quite a few knocks lately.

                  Has it been confirmed that his noggin took the knock?

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                  @ACT-Crusader Not as far as I have seen.

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @Victor-Meldrew christ, your a pendant

                    (triggered yet?)

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                    @nzzp said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                    @Victor-Meldrew christ, your a pendant

                    (triggered yet?)

                    I'm an anti-pedant pedant.

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                    • FrankF Frank

                      Would love to see how Perofeta goes at 10 after Mounga has played the first 60 or so(assuming we can afford to bring him on)

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                      @Frank said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                      Would love to see how Perofeta goes at 10 after Mounga has played the first 60 or so(assuming we can afford to bring him on)

                      Think he'll be on the bench if BB is ruled out but Ritche may well play the full 80 depending on how the game pans out.

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        @Frank said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                        Would love to see how Perofeta goes at 10 after Mounga has played the first 60 or so(assuming we can afford to bring him on)

                        Think he'll be on the bench if BB is ruled out but Ritche may well play the full 80 depending on how the game pans out.

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                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                        @Frank said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                        Would love to see how Perofeta goes at 10 after Mounga has played the first 60 or so(assuming we can afford to bring him on)

                        Think he'll be on the bench if BB is ruled out but Ritche may well play the full 80 depending on how the game pans out.

                        Just throwing it out there, but could we see the same starting backline as SA 2, but on the bench have a midfielder (QT or RTS) plus a winger (eg Reece).

                        Plan to play Mo’unga for 80 and better utilise the options on the bench. If he gets crook we run with either Jordie or Havili at 10.

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                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                          @Frank said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                          Would love to see how Perofeta goes at 10 after Mounga has played the first 60 or so(assuming we can afford to bring him on)

                          Think he'll be on the bench if BB is ruled out but Ritche may well play the full 80 depending on how the game pans out.

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                          @Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                            @Frank said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                            Would love to see how Perofeta goes at 10 after Mounga has played the first 60 or so(assuming we can afford to bring him on)

                            Think he'll be on the bench if BB is ruled out but Ritche may well play the full 80 depending on how the game pans out.

                            Just throwing it out there, but could we see the same starting backline as SA 2, but on the bench have a midfielder (QT or RTS) plus a winger (eg Reece).

                            Plan to play Mo’unga for 80 and better utilise the options on the bench. If he gets crook we run with either Jordie or Havili at 10.

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                            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                            @Frank said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                            Would love to see how Perofeta goes at 10 after Mounga has played the first 60 or so(assuming we can afford to bring him on)

                            Think he'll be on the bench if BB is ruled out but Ritche may well play the full 80 depending on how the game pans out.

                            Just throwing it out there, but could we see the same starting backline as SA 2, but on the bench have a midfielder (QT or RTS) plus a winger (eg Reece).

                            Plan to play Mo’unga for 80 and better utilise the options on the bench. If he gets crook we run with either Jordie or Havili at 10.

                            Imagine the shit Foster would cop if that didn't work out.

                            It will be interesting to see how/if they can give RTS playing time though. With 4 midfielders that aren't versatile the options are limited. They have obviously worked hard on upskilling QT to play 13 and currently he is the only real cover there except Ennor.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.

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                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                              @Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.

                              That's what I'd plan to do.

                              I don't really hold with the idea of planned substitution of your first five - but, you need cover in case he gets hurt (or is having an absolute mare).

                              I'd like to see some tests where Beaudy and Richie aren't paired, because they don't seem to have quite worked out as hoped. I think Fozzie has been playing a game of trying to keep both of them happy with game time, possibly to the detriment of the team.

                              So Perofeta (or DMac) on the bench.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                @Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.

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                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                @Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.

                                After watching Aussies and Argies and the Argies propensity to kick, I’d be hesitant to replace Jordie given he seems to have found his mojo again for attacking the high ball. He was pretty key for us in SA 2 in the air.

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.

                                  That's what I'd plan to do.

                                  I don't really hold with the idea of planned substitution of your first five - but, you need cover in case he gets hurt (or is having an absolute mare).

                                  I'd like to see some tests where Beaudy and Richie aren't paired, because they don't seem to have quite worked out as hoped. I think Fozzie has been playing a game of trying to keep both of them happy with game time, possibly to the detriment of the team.

                                  So Perofeta (or DMac) on the bench.

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                                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.

                                  That's what I'd plan to do.

                                  I don't really hold with the idea of planned substitution of your first five - but, you need cover in case he gets hurt (or is having an absolute mare).

                                  I'd like to see some tests where Beaudy and Richie aren't paired, because they don't seem to have quite worked out as hoped. I think Fozzie has been playing a game of trying to keep both of them happy with game time, possibly to the detriment of the team.

                                  So Perofeta (or DMac) on the bench.

                                  We seem to think that we need bench firepower at 10 when we should be planning to be in control.
                                  A tactical change up could work well where Fakatava keeps the other team in doubt but the 10 keeps them pinned back. I'd like to see how Perofeta goes in that situation.

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.

                                    That's what I'd plan to do.

                                    I don't really hold with the idea of planned substitution of your first five - but, you need cover in case he gets hurt (or is having an absolute mare).

                                    I'd like to see some tests where Beaudy and Richie aren't paired, because they don't seem to have quite worked out as hoped. I think Fozzie has been playing a game of trying to keep both of them happy with game time, possibly to the detriment of the team.

                                    So Perofeta (or DMac) on the bench.

                                    We seem to think that we need bench firepower at 10 when we should be planning to be in control.
                                    A tactical change up could work well where Fakatava keeps the other team in doubt but the 10 keeps them pinned back. I'd like to see how Perofeta goes in that situation.

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                                    @Crucial or possibly smith off the bench and plays the playmaker role a bit more from 9 as he he did for the landers when gilbert was at 10 this year

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                                      I think we started with Lomax and De Groot against the Boks because we saw they had selected their weaker scrummaging props to start. So, if the Argies start with their best scrummaging front row, I think Newell and Bower get the start.

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.

                                        That's what I'd plan to do.

                                        I don't really hold with the idea of planned substitution of your first five - but, you need cover in case he gets hurt (or is having an absolute mare).

                                        I'd like to see some tests where Beaudy and Richie aren't paired, because they don't seem to have quite worked out as hoped. I think Fozzie has been playing a game of trying to keep both of them happy with game time, possibly to the detriment of the team.

                                        So Perofeta (or DMac) on the bench.

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                                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.

                                        That's what I'd plan to do.

                                        I don't really hold with the idea of planned substitution of your first five - but, you need cover in case he gets hurt (or is having an absolute mare).

                                        I'd like to see some tests where Beaudy and Richie aren't paired, because they don't seem to have quite worked out as hoped. I think Fozzie has been playing a game of trying to keep both of them happy with game time, possibly to the detriment of the team.

                                        So Perofeta (or DMac) on the bench.

                                        It's been an ongoing frustration that they keep pairing Beauden and Mo'unga together when it clearly hasn't been working. Even if both players are buying into the idea off the pitch, in the heat of a test we get a jumbled approach and neither really take control of the game. Mo'unga definitely benefited from being in charge last test and played a lot better as a result.

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                                          Kick off is 745? What the actual fuck?

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