All Blacks v Pumas 1
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Well done Argies.
ABs very poor.
Most random reffing performance I have seen for some time, well since that Wales v Boks test.
He's simply not up to standard but he wasn't the reason you lost.
Was a factor.
Take him out and we win.
Not convinced
Ref wasn't committing the penalties and throwing the ball in shit
Ref invented penalties, for one side and ignored the other side.
It created the scoreboard pressure. And subsequent panic.
Sure we did stupid shit too.
But change that factor and put a proper ref in charge and that result changes.
That's down to the captain, players and coaches not adapting to the ref
Everyone knew he's useless before kick off
NZ did not play the ref, Argentina did
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So you're saying the referee's inadequacies affected the result?
I agree entirely
The team's inadequacies affected the result much more
@Pepe said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Well done Argies.
ABs very poor.
Most random reffing performance I have seen for some time, well since that Wales v Boks test.
He's simply not up to standard but he wasn't the reason you lost.
Was a factor.
Take him out and we win.
Not convinced
Ref wasn't committing the penalties and throwing the ball in shit
Ref invented penalties, for one side and ignored the other side.
It created the scoreboard pressure. And subsequent panic.
Sure we did stupid shit too.
But change that factor and put a proper ref in charge and that result changes.
That's down to the captain, players and coaches not adapting to the ref
Everyone knew he's useless before kick off
NZ did not play the ref, Argentina did
End of
So you're saying the referee's inadequacies affected the result?
I agree entirely
The team's inadequacies affected the result much more
Take one factor out and the result changes
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@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Chester-Draws bro calm down holy shit lmao.
I took a lot of shit this week for my "negativity".
I'm going to enjoy my "I told you so."
Don't care, didn't ask. Don't need to be a fuckwit when I suggested we calm down a little.
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Chester-Draws bro calm down holy shit lmao.
I took a lot of shit this week for my "negativity".
I'm going to enjoy my "I told you so."
Don't care, didn't ask. Don't need to be a fuckwit when I suggested we calm down a little.
So you are happy with what is happening to NZ rugby? (Not just the Abs).
Because I really am not.
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I just want to say well played to Michael Cheika. He must be on cloud 9 atm.
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Well done Argentina. A bit of payback for Cheika. The next week will not be an easy one for any coach or player in the AB camp.
@stodders said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Well done Argentina. A bit of payback for Cheika. The next week will not be an easy one for any coach or player in the AB camp.
I know he has just been backed by NZRU but if they lost next week would he have to be sacked?
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Apart from the destruction of a legacy, the worst part of this is making Chieka looks like a genius.
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Apart from the destruction of a legacy, the worst part of this is making Chieka looks like a genius.
Gotta hand it to him, he’s beaten the Wallabies and All Blacks in consecutive matches. Something no other Argies team has ever done before (got close in 2020 after the AB win they drew with the Wallabies the following week.
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@Pepe said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Well done Argies.
ABs very poor.
Most random reffing performance I have seen for some time, well since that Wales v Boks test.
He's simply not up to standard but he wasn't the reason you lost.
Was a factor.
Take him out and we win.
Not convinced
Ref wasn't committing the penalties and throwing the ball in shit
Ref invented penalties, for one side and ignored the other side.
It created the scoreboard pressure. And subsequent panic.
Sure we did stupid shit too.
But change that factor and put a proper ref in charge and that result changes.
That's down to the captain, players and coaches not adapting to the ref
Everyone knew he's useless before kick off
NZ did not play the ref, Argentina did
End of
So you're saying the referee's inadequacies affected the result?
I agree entirely
The team's inadequacies affected the result much more
Take one factor out and the result changes
@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Pepe said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Well done Argies.
ABs very poor.
Most random reffing performance I have seen for some time, well since that Wales v Boks test.
He's simply not up to standard but he wasn't the reason you lost.
Was a factor.
Take him out and we win.
Not convinced
Ref wasn't committing the penalties and throwing the ball in shit
Ref invented penalties, for one side and ignored the other side.
It created the scoreboard pressure. And subsequent panic.
Sure we did stupid shit too.
But change that factor and put a proper ref in charge and that result changes.
That's down to the captain, players and coaches not adapting to the ref
Everyone knew he's useless before kick off
NZ did not play the ref, Argentina did
End of
So you're saying the referee's inadequacies affected the result?
I agree entirely
The team's inadequacies affected the result much more
Take one factor out and the result changes
Not giving away so many penalties to allow the Pumas to stay in touch?
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@Tordah said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@pukunui said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Is this rock bottom yet?
EoYT looming large, Japan? Wales?
Scotland
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@Tordah let’s hope they don’t add an extra fixture against Italy
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@Steve said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
3 successive losses at home.
Another great record for Foster. He's trying so hard, but the players aren't blameless either
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The worst part is that we lost that game with a dominant scrum and making double the running metres. Basically with New Zealand, you don't need to play rugby to beat us. We will just gift you penalties plus a try off the kickoff. That was a loss against the 9th ranked rugby team at home. It was pathetic.
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@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Fuck man I'm no Fozzie lover but this reflects on everyone who's part of the team not just him. Calm down and take a step back fellas. We say all this shit but we know next week we'll back our team and if they win then all will be well.
No. Fuck off yourself.
I'm sick of losing to teams we used to never -- never -- lose to. No matter how average we were.
This is down to one man. One man out of his depth. I stopped backing any team he coached decades ago and I'm not going to start now.
@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Fuck man I'm no Fozzie lover but this reflects on everyone who's part of the team not just him. Calm down and take a step back fellas. We say all this shit but we know next week we'll back our team and if they win then all will be well.
No. Fuck off yourself.
I'm sick of losing to teams we used to never -- never -- lose to. No matter how average we were.
This is down to one man. One man out of his depth. I stopped backing any team he coached decades ago and I'm not going to start now.
Fucking Amen to that
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They should have played that starting front row till their arses fell out and kept piling on the hurt. And only then brought in the replacements to put the Argies to the sword. It was a poor tactical decision.
Our field kicking was a real weakness. The distance the Argies got on their kicking for touch was dramatically different to ours. We kicked for touch to relieve pressure, they did it to build pressure. Then they didn’t have to really create anything, they just had to wait for a penalty. And the kicks into their 22 were aimless and poorly chased. We’ve completely forgotten that Union is football.
The lineout throwing from Taylor was too poor. If the opposition knows you’re unlikely to win your own ball back cleanly at a lineout you remove a key creator of pressure.
Our backs didn’t commit defenders with ball in hand. We carried but we didn’t attack very efficiently.
The finishing pack didn’t handle as well as the starting pack did. They also can’t defend a maul.
There’s no points on offer for demolishing a scrum if they’ve already cleared the ball.
You always need to tackle a loose forward if he’s running the ball towards your line 20 metres out. Hoping he trips over is not a great strategy.
Other than that we were awesome.
