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EPL 2022 / 2023

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  • dogmeatD dogmeat

    @KiwiPie Villa could be in trouble if they go down what with the way they have spent. Forest too I guess.

    I think realistically only one promoted team survive most years so sorry @bayimports I hope the Cherries go down too.

    I'll take any three clubs finishing below us. Everton and Villa for similar reasons would be 'nice' So too IMO Leeds, Southampton and Wolves.

    Although Fulham aren't supposed to like Brentford that's a younger fans thing. To my vintage they were an irrelevance and I think they are an extremely well run club, on and off the pitch. I quite like Palace and West Ham (last 2nd tier club to win FA Cup) and that's exhausted the list of those who can realistically ever be expected to go down.

    The days of the likes of the Manchester clubs spending a season out of the top division have sadly gone

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    @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

    So too IMO Leeds, Southampton and Wolves.

    Leeds I like to watch play so happy for them to stick around - and the manager is entertaining as well even though he looks like he may combust if they go on a bad run.

    Southampton was my late father's club so I have a soft spot for them.

    Wolves - the Portuguese unemployment rate will increase if they go down.

    The TAB has Bournemouth favourites for the drop then Forest and Everton and Southampton level as the other one to go down. Fulham paying $3.30 if you fancy an insurance investment!

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    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

      @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

      So too IMO Leeds, Southampton and Wolves.

      Leeds I like to watch play so happy for them to stick around - and the manager is entertaining as well even though he looks like he may combust if they go on a bad run.

      Southampton was my late father's club so I have a soft spot for them.

      Wolves - the Portuguese unemployment rate will increase if they go down.

      The TAB has Bournemouth favourites for the drop then Forest and Everton and Southampton level as the other one to go down. Fulham paying $3.30 if you fancy an insurance investment!

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      @KiwiPie And in the National League Notts County's undefeated run continues with a thumping 1 - 4 towelling of Halifax Town. Just the three unbeaten teams remaining.

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        The first managerial casualty of the season - Scott Parker sacked by Bournemouth.

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          The first managerial casualty of the season - Scott Parker sacked by Bournemouth.

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          @Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

          The first managerial casualty of the season - Scott Parker sacked by Bournemouth.

          Equal biggest premier League defeat ever, fair enough!

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            @Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

            The first managerial casualty of the season - Scott Parker sacked by Bournemouth.

            Equal biggest premier League defeat ever, fair enough!

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            @Machpants said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

            @Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

            The first managerial casualty of the season - Scott Parker sacked by Bournemouth.

            Equal biggest premier League defeat ever, fair enough!

            nah more about how vocal he was about the owners/management and the squad lacking depth. The people paying him didn't like that at all.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              The first managerial casualty of the season - Scott Parker sacked by Bournemouth.

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              @Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

              The first managerial casualty of the season - Scott Parker sacked by Bournemouth.

              Scott Parker is highly rated as an Assistant Coach. I expect to see him back at Spurs straightaway or part of Southgate's set-up with the England team.

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              • B bayimports

                @Machpants said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                @Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                The first managerial casualty of the season - Scott Parker sacked by Bournemouth.

                Equal biggest premier League defeat ever, fair enough!

                nah more about how vocal he was about the owners/management and the squad lacking depth. The people paying him didn't like that at all.

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                @bayimports said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                @Machpants said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                @Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                The first managerial casualty of the season - Scott Parker sacked by Bournemouth.

                Equal biggest premier League defeat ever, fair enough!

                nah more about how vocal he was about the owners/management and the squad lacking depth. The people paying him didn't like that at all.

                Ok, I don't follow, but certainly noticed the score!

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                  @Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                  The first managerial casualty of the season - Scott Parker sacked by Bournemouth.

                  Scott Parker is highly rated as an Assistant Coach. I expect to see him back at Spurs straightaway or part of Southgate's set-up with the England team.

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                  @sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                  @Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                  The first managerial casualty of the season - Scott Parker sacked by Bournemouth.

                  Scott Parker is highly rated as an Assistant Coach. I expect to see him back at Spurs straightaway or part of Southgate's set-up with the England team.

                  By who? Nice line in cardigan's but...

                  He might be a good skills coach, but tactically and as a man manager he's a long way from the finished article.

                  Just the latest example of good players don't make good coaches. How long before Lampard (almost certainly) and Gerard (possibly) join him?

                  I think @bayimports is spot on. Surely the Bournemouth owners didn't expect more than the 3 points delivered from an opening four matches of Villa, Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool. But Parker has form he tried the same trick at Fulham and lost the dressing room with his constant criticising of his own players when arguably in March we were more favoured to stay up than go down. Just as the owners should have known the reality so should have Parker. Karma really for the way he tried to exit Fulham with a severance payout when he was the one courting Bournemouth.

                  The Fulham side that got promoted last year and the current side are in the main the same players Parker had, just playing to a better system and made better players by a Manager they trust and who gets the best out of them.

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                    Meanwhile a 2-1 win for Fulham over top 4 giants Brighton, Southampton take down Chelsea 2-1 and 1-1 draws between Palace/Brentford & Leeds/Everton.

                    On Parker, what did Bournemouth expect from those first 4 fixtures? Away to the 2 best teams and 3 points is about the best they could expect. Looks like a job for Big Sam or Tony Pulis.

                    In bigger news, another win for Notts has them sitting 5th and still unbeaten - they plus Chesterfield, Wrexham, Oldham, York, Southend are the big clubs in the league as can clearly be seen in the average attendances.

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                    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                      Meanwhile a 2-1 win for Fulham over top 4 giants Brighton, Southampton take down Chelsea 2-1 and 1-1 draws between Palace/Brentford & Leeds/Everton.

                      On Parker, what did Bournemouth expect from those first 4 fixtures? Away to the 2 best teams and 3 points is about the best they could expect. Looks like a job for Big Sam or Tony Pulis.

                      In bigger news, another win for Notts has them sitting 5th and still unbeaten - they plus Chesterfield, Wrexham, Oldham, York, Southend are the big clubs in the league as can clearly be seen in the average attendances.

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                      @KiwiPie Chesterfield are sitting pretty. Sorry that was a pretty poor bench mark. I'll seat to it that it doesn't happen again.

                      I had to go into a meeting with Fulham 0-0. Nice to come out and see we held on for the 3. That Mitrovich is shit eh?

                      Parker to Sunderland?

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                      • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                        Meanwhile a 2-1 win for Fulham over top 4 giants Brighton, Southampton take down Chelsea 2-1 and 1-1 draws between Palace/Brentford & Leeds/Everton.

                        On Parker, what did Bournemouth expect from those first 4 fixtures? Away to the 2 best teams and 3 points is about the best they could expect. Looks like a job for Big Sam or Tony Pulis.

                        In bigger news, another win for Notts has them sitting 5th and still unbeaten - they plus Chesterfield, Wrexham, Oldham, York, Southend are the big clubs in the league as can clearly be seen in the average attendances.

                        10940c35-77bc-403a-bd77-9912709b8c1b-image.png

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                        @KiwiPie Some of those attendance figures are rather impressive.

                        As a comparison these are the home attendances of the top few in LEague 2
                        Bradford 17538
                        Strockport 8690
                        Swindon 8670
                        Wimbledon 7216
                        Orient 7173
                        Grimsby 6697
                        Mansfield 6587
                        Doncaster 6029
                        Whilst the bottom five clubs do not even crack 3000 average home attendance.
                        https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-two/attendances
                        A similar story in League 1 with the bottom six not breaking 5000, different story at the top thanks to "big" clubs like Derby, Ipswich and Sheffield Wednesday, between 24 and 28 thousand. Others like Bolton, Plymouth, Portsmouth and Charlton are also sitting pretty averaging over 14000.
                        https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-one/attendances

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                        • HigginsH Higgins

                          @KiwiPie Some of those attendance figures are rather impressive.

                          As a comparison these are the home attendances of the top few in LEague 2
                          Bradford 17538
                          Strockport 8690
                          Swindon 8670
                          Wimbledon 7216
                          Orient 7173
                          Grimsby 6697
                          Mansfield 6587
                          Doncaster 6029
                          Whilst the bottom five clubs do not even crack 3000 average home attendance.
                          https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-two/attendances
                          A similar story in League 1 with the bottom six not breaking 5000, different story at the top thanks to "big" clubs like Derby, Ipswich and Sheffield Wednesday, between 24 and 28 thousand. Others like Bolton, Plymouth, Portsmouth and Charlton are also sitting pretty averaging over 14000.
                          https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-one/attendances

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                          @Higgins Bradford higher than Brentford and Bournemouth's capacity.

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                            Based on club size, Bradford, Derby, Ipswich, Sheff Wed, Bolton, Portsmouth (Notts County) should be Championship clubs while Plymouth have always been lower than they should be given the size of the city.

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                              It was all going so well for Fulham and then

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                                It was all going so well for Fulham and then

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                                @KiwiPie Been reading this for ten days or so. He's been training at Motspur Park for a week.

                                Surely if we were going to sign him it would already have been announced.

                                Unless he has to prove he can get his fitness back - or, like, I dunno - play football.

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                                  It was all going so well for Fulham and then

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                                  @KiwiPie said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                  It was all going so well for Fulham and then

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                                  I laughed when I read that.
                                  Willian looked great for Arsenal in his first game. But after that...

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @KiwiPie said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                    It was all going so well for Fulham and then

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                                    I laughed when I read that.
                                    Willian looked great for Arsenal in his first game. But after that...

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                                    @Bovidae The Athletic are reporting that Roma Fulham finally agreed terms for a one year loan with an option to buy but it has fallen over post Brexit because he can't get a work permit.

                                    Strange if true but might explain late renewed interest in Willian if Fulham thought they had wide cover and it has fallen over on deadline day.

                                    Underwhelmed by it all if true.

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                                      Tuchel sacked.

                                      Awful decision.

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                                        Tuchel sacked.

                                        Awful decision.

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                                        @MajorRage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                        Tuchel sacked.

                                        Awful decision.

                                        No change in Chelsea's manager policy even wit the change of ownership.

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                                          The new owner seems to think he knows how to run a football team better than the people who run football teams for a living. Their spending has been wild in the window without making the team any stronger than last season. Tuchel did look like a man at the end of his tether so I suppose something had to give.

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