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All Blacks v Argentina II

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    I'm still not completely sold on Lomax, but the alternatives are even worse (and old). He isn't very effective taking the ball into contact and is far too upright.

    Ofa? But Lomax for me supplants Angus T.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    I'm still not completely sold on Lomax, but the alternatives are even worse (and old). He isn't very effective taking the ball into contact and is far too upright.

    Ofa?

    Ofa is as dumb as a box of rocks and has been given untold chances.
    He has to prove he can cut out the stupid plays and show a high workrate.

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    • F Frank

      @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      I'm still not completely sold on Lomax, but the alternatives are even worse (and old). He isn't very effective taking the ball into contact and is far too upright.

      Ofa?

      Ofa is as dumb as a box of rocks and has been given untold chances.
      He has to prove he can cut out the stupid plays and show a high workrate.

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      @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      I'm still not completely sold on Lomax, but the alternatives are even worse (and old). He isn't very effective taking the ball into contact and is far too upright.

      Ofa?

      Ofa is as dumb as a box of rocks and has been given untold chances.
      He has to prove he can cut out the stupid plays and show a high workrate.

      It’s not often I agree with you. Here’s one.

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        • TordahT Tordah

          Best 80 mins from Codie Taylor since 2021

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          @Tordah said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          Best 80 mins from Codie Taylor since 2021

          Sorry to burst a bubble, but had Georgian ref been on the field there were at least two of Sami’s throws he could have blown for same thing as Codie’s last throw. Team thing.

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          • M Machpants

            @reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            @Bones Jordan's a fullback, Jordie's a fullback - and neither of them are a patch on Reece on the wing.
            We just need to make a decision instead of trying to squeeze them both onto the field.

            Jordie to 12, easy. He can at least hit the line hard, and rieko and him seen to operate very well together

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            @Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            @reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            @Bones Jordan's a fullback, Jordie's a fullback - and neither of them are a patch on Reece on the wing.
            We just need to make a decision instead of trying to squeeze them both onto the field.

            Jordie to 12, easy. He can at least hit the line hard, and rieko and him seen to operate very well together

            Hell yeah, great idea. Just when the midfield is starting to gel and is play well, let's break it up and start all over again with a player who has never played a test at 12. Geezus.

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            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

              @Steve said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              @Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              @reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              @Bones Jordan's a fullback, Jordie's a fullback - and neither of them are a patch on Reece on the wing.
              We just need to make a decision instead of trying to squeeze them both onto the field.

              Jordie to 12, easy. He can at least hit the line hard, and rieko and him seen to operate very well together

              I think this is the move to make. Jordie can do the little chip kicks as good if not better than Havili anyway. There is nothing Havili does that Jordie can't do in my opinion.

              I want to see Will Jordan getting the ball with the field in front of him and picking out fatties to run at.

              I suspect DH links a little quicker and is a more intuitive player but yes Jordie's bulk would be handy.

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              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              @Steve said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              @Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              @reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              @Bones Jordan's a fullback, Jordie's a fullback - and neither of them are a patch on Reece on the wing.
              We just need to make a decision instead of trying to squeeze them both onto the field.

              Jordie to 12, easy. He can at least hit the line hard, and rieko and him seen to operate very well together

              I think this is the move to make. Jordie can do the little chip kicks as good if not better than Havili anyway. There is nothing Havili does that Jordie can't do in my opinion.

              I want to see Will Jordan getting the ball with the field in front of him and picking out fatties to run at.

              I suspect DH links a little quicker and is a more intuitive player but yes Jordie's bulk would be handy.

              Replacing one fullback playing at 12 with another. 🤔

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              • P pakman

                @Tordah said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                Best 80 mins from Codie Taylor since 2021

                Sorry to burst a bubble, but had Georgian ref been on the field there were at least two of Sami’s throws he could have blown for same thing as Codie’s last throw. Team thing.

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                @pakman I didn't say ST's performance was flawless. Certainly better than what Codie Taylor dished up in the last couple of years. CT used to be very good, but form has dropped off significantly sometime around 2020.

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  I'm still not completely sold on Lomax, but the alternatives are even worse (and old). He isn't very effective taking the ball into contact and is far too upright.

                  Ofa? But Lomax for me supplants Angus T.

                  Lomax doesn’t do as many dumb things as Ofa. Ofa replaces Angus

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                  @Crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  I'm still not completely sold on Lomax, but the alternatives are even worse (and old). He isn't very effective taking the ball into contact and is far too upright.

                  Ofa? But Lomax for me supplants Angus T.

                  Lomax doesn’t do as many dumb things as Ofa. Ofa replaces Angus

                  I mean Angus drips out of squad. Lomax remains as project.

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                  • F Frank

                    @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    I'm still not completely sold on Lomax, but the alternatives are even worse (and old). He isn't very effective taking the ball into contact and is far too upright.

                    Ofa?

                    Ofa is as dumb as a box of rocks and has been given untold chances.
                    He has to prove he can cut out the stupid plays and show a high workrate.

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                    @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    I'm still not completely sold on Lomax, but the alternatives are even worse (and old). He isn't very effective taking the ball into contact and is far too upright.

                    Ofa?

                    Ofa is as dumb as a box of rocks and has been given untold chances.
                    He has to prove he can cut out the stupid plays and show a high workrate.

                    Mid Super Rugby Ofa was playing as well as any NZ TH in last three years.

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                      @Toddy hah yeah, that's just shoving a mate who's given you grief. Pretty funny.

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                      • P pakman

                        @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        I'm still not completely sold on Lomax, but the alternatives are even worse (and old). He isn't very effective taking the ball into contact and is far too upright.

                        Ofa?

                        Ofa is as dumb as a box of rocks and has been given untold chances.
                        He has to prove he can cut out the stupid plays and show a high workrate.

                        Mid Super Rugby Ofa was playing as well as any NZ TH in last three years.

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                        @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        I'm still not completely sold on Lomax, but the alternatives are even worse (and old). He isn't very effective taking the ball into contact and is far too upright.

                        Ofa?

                        Ofa is as dumb as a box of rocks and has been given untold chances.
                        He has to prove he can cut out the stupid plays and show a high workrate.

                        Mid Super Rugby Ofa was playing as well as any NZ TH in last three years.

                        How was he in the Super Rugby final and the Irish tests?

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          @reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          @Bones Jordan's a fullback, Jordie's a fullback - and neither of them are a patch on Reece on the wing.
                          We just need to make a decision instead of trying to squeeze them both onto the field.

                          Jordie to 12, easy. He can at least hit the line hard, and rieko and him seen to operate very well together

                          Hell yeah, great idea. Just when the midfield is starting to gel and is play well, let's break it up and start all over again with a player who has never played a test at 12. Geezus.

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                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          @Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          @reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          @Bones Jordan's a fullback, Jordie's a fullback - and neither of them are a patch on Reece on the wing.
                          We just need to make a decision instead of trying to squeeze them both onto the field.

                          Jordie to 12, easy. He can at least hit the line hard, and rieko and him seen to operate very well together

                          Hell yeah, great idea. Just when the midfield is starting to gel and is play well, let's break it up and start all over again with a player who has never played a test at 12. Geezus.

                          Totally. Havili is shit, mostly. He's not big enough, and his supposed kicking etc ain't good enough. Jordie is big, hits the line with venom, plays 12 , had played ten for ABs so can distribute, he's basically was more experienced, faster, bigger, Havili, with s bigger boot. If have havili nowhere near the ABs, he's a stop gap that's stuck. Yes he's improved but he's still not good enough.

                          You sound like NZR, one good game wipes out two years of mediocrity versus top teams. No way. Same as foster should still be gone after this game, so should havili

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                          • F Frank

                            @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            I'm still not completely sold on Lomax, but the alternatives are even worse (and old). He isn't very effective taking the ball into contact and is far too upright.

                            Ofa?

                            Ofa is as dumb as a box of rocks and has been given untold chances.
                            He has to prove he can cut out the stupid plays and show a high workrate.

                            Mid Super Rugby Ofa was playing as well as any NZ TH in last three years.

                            How was he in the Super Rugby final and the Irish tests?

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                            @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            I'm still not completely sold on Lomax, but the alternatives are even worse (and old). He isn't very effective taking the ball into contact and is far too upright.

                            Ofa?

                            Ofa is as dumb as a box of rocks and has been given untold chances.
                            He has to prove he can cut out the stupid plays and show a high workrate.

                            Mid Super Rugby Ofa was playing as well as any NZ TH in last three years.

                            How was he in the Super Rugby final and the Irish tests?

                            Injured.

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                            • P pakman

                              @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              I'm still not completely sold on Lomax, but the alternatives are even worse (and old). He isn't very effective taking the ball into contact and is far too upright.

                              Ofa?

                              Ofa is as dumb as a box of rocks and has been given untold chances.
                              He has to prove he can cut out the stupid plays and show a high workrate.

                              Mid Super Rugby Ofa was playing as well as any NZ TH in last three years.

                              How was he in the Super Rugby final and the Irish tests?

                              Injured.

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                              @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              I'm still not completely sold on Lomax, but the alternatives are even worse (and old). He isn't very effective taking the ball into contact and is far too upright.

                              Ofa?

                              Ofa is as dumb as a box of rocks and has been given untold chances.
                              He has to prove he can cut out the stupid plays and show a high workrate.

                              Mid Super Rugby Ofa was playing as well as any NZ TH in last three years.

                              How was he in the Super Rugby final and the Irish tests?

                              Injured.

                              Haha No wonder I didn't notice him.

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                                Why is Bledisloe 1 on a Thursday??

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                                • His BobnessH His Bobness

                                  Why is Bledisloe 1 on a Thursday??

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                                  @His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  Why is Bledisloe 1 on a Thursday??

                                  NFL or whatever game on the weekend, I think

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                                    @His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    Why is Bledisloe 1 on a Thursday??

                                    NFL or whatever game on the weekend, I think

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                                    @Machpants They have a brand new stadium in Sydney yet they accept a Thursday night slot in AFL-mad Melbourne as part of their never-ending delusion of turning rugby into a national sport

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                                    • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                      What a great game to be at, despite the rain. Only my second All Blacks game. Great performance, not perfect but very good. Crazy turnaround.

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                                      @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      What a great game to be at, despite the rain. Only my second All Blacks game. Great performance, not perfect but very good. Crazy turnaround.

                                      The crowd were great. The NZR need to arrange more tests at the Tron.

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        What a great game to be at, despite the rain. Only my second All Blacks game. Great performance, not perfect but very good. Crazy turnaround.

                                        The crowd were great. The NZR need to arrange more tests at the Tron.

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                                        @sparky I wouldn't complain. Heaps of Argies there too.

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                                        • His BobnessH His Bobness

                                          @Machpants They have a brand new stadium in Sydney yet they accept a Thursday night slot in AFL-mad Melbourne as part of their never-ending delusion of turning rugby into a national sport

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                                          @His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                          @Machpants They have a brand new stadium in Sydney yet they accept a Thursday night slot in AFL-mad Melbourne as part of their never-ending delusion of turning rugby into a national sport

                                          Where hopefully most of the Melbourne Kiwi population will turn out

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