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Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0 + dead rubber

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    Well this scoreline is awkward….

    Welcome back Black Craps

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      The 3rd ODI will be Finch’s last ODI

      https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/australia-news-aaron-finch-announces-retirement-from-odis-continues-as-t20i-captain-1333902

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        Can't we just forfeit the 3rd match?

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          Well this scoreline is awkward….

          Welcome back Black Craps

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          @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

          Well this scoreline is awkward….

          Welcome back Black Craps

          what really hurts is we were ranked No 1 in the world going in. It's nuts - we're going to do an AB like dive down the rankings I fear

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            Audio on, but swearing involved.

            https://twitter.com/gradecricketer/status/1568477330896752641

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            • NTAN NTA

              Audio on, but swearing involved.

              https://twitter.com/gradecricketer/status/1568477330896752641

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              @NTA Any true Australian insurance company would go after the bowler not the batsman.

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                @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                Well this scoreline is awkward….

                Welcome back Black Craps

                what really hurts is we were ranked No 1 in the world going in. It's nuts - we're going to do an AB like dive down the rankings I fear

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                @nzzp said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                Well this scoreline is awkward….

                Welcome back Black Craps

                what really hurts is we were ranked No 1 in the world going in. It's nuts - we're going to do an AB like dive down the rankings I fear

                Yeah but was always gonna happen. We still have our one world class player in KW but the support cast of good to very good players is dwindling and being replaced by journeymen.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @nzzp said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                  @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                  Well this scoreline is awkward….

                  Welcome back Black Craps

                  what really hurts is we were ranked No 1 in the world going in. It's nuts - we're going to do an AB like dive down the rankings I fear

                  Yeah but was always gonna happen. We still have our one world class player in KW but the support cast of good to very good players is dwindling and being replaced by journeymen.

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                  @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                  @nzzp said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                  @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                  Well this scoreline is awkward….

                  Welcome back Black Craps

                  what really hurts is we were ranked No 1 in the world going in. It's nuts - we're going to do an AB like dive down the rankings I fear

                  Yeah but was always gonna happen. We still have our one world class player in KW but the support cast of good to very good players is dwindling and being replaced by journeymen.

                  Right now the one who looks world class is Trent Boult

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                    @nzzp said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                    @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                    Well this scoreline is awkward….

                    Welcome back Black Craps

                    what really hurts is we were ranked No 1 in the world going in. It's nuts - we're going to do an AB like dive down the rankings I fear

                    Yeah but was always gonna happen. We still have our one world class player in KW but the support cast of good to very good players is dwindling and being replaced by journeymen.

                    Right now the one who looks world class is Trent Boult

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                    @canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                    @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                    @nzzp said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                    @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                    Well this scoreline is awkward….

                    Welcome back Black Craps

                    what really hurts is we were ranked No 1 in the world going in. It's nuts - we're going to do an AB like dive down the rankings I fear

                    Yeah but was always gonna happen. We still have our one world class player in KW but the support cast of good to very good players is dwindling and being replaced by journeymen.

                    Right now the one who looks world class is Trent Boult

                    He’s playing bloody well yes, but he’s still what I’d call Ross Taylor class. Very good, would probably walk into any international squad but maybe a bit short of being one of the absolute elite of his era.

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                      @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                      @nzzp said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                      @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                      Well this scoreline is awkward….

                      Welcome back Black Craps

                      what really hurts is we were ranked No 1 in the world going in. It's nuts - we're going to do an AB like dive down the rankings I fear

                      Yeah but was always gonna happen. We still have our one world class player in KW but the support cast of good to very good players is dwindling and being replaced by journeymen.

                      Right now the one who looks world class is Trent Boult

                      He’s playing bloody well yes, but he’s still what I’d call Ross Taylor class. Very good, would probably walk into any international squad but maybe a bit short of being one of the absolute elite of his era.

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                      @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                      @canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                      @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                      @nzzp said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                      @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                      Well this scoreline is awkward….

                      Welcome back Black Craps

                      what really hurts is we were ranked No 1 in the world going in. It's nuts - we're going to do an AB like dive down the rankings I fear

                      Yeah but was always gonna happen. We still have our one world class player in KW but the support cast of good to very good players is dwindling and being replaced by journeymen.

                      Right now the one who looks world class is Trent Boult

                      He’s playing bloody well yes, but he’s still what I’d call Ross Taylor class. Very good, would probably walk into any international squad but maybe a bit short of being one of the absolute elite of his era.

                      He's played better in his position than Kane has in his during this series

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                        @canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                        @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                        @nzzp said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                        @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                        Well this scoreline is awkward….

                        Welcome back Black Craps

                        what really hurts is we were ranked No 1 in the world going in. It's nuts - we're going to do an AB like dive down the rankings I fear

                        Yeah but was always gonna happen. We still have our one world class player in KW but the support cast of good to very good players is dwindling and being replaced by journeymen.

                        Right now the one who looks world class is Trent Boult

                        He’s playing bloody well yes, but he’s still what I’d call Ross Taylor class. Very good, would probably walk into any international squad but maybe a bit short of being one of the absolute elite of his era.

                        He's played better in his position than Kane has in his during this series

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                        @canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                        @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                        @canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                        @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                        @nzzp said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                        @MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                        Well this scoreline is awkward….

                        Welcome back Black Craps

                        what really hurts is we were ranked No 1 in the world going in. It's nuts - we're going to do an AB like dive down the rankings I fear

                        Yeah but was always gonna happen. We still have our one world class player in KW but the support cast of good to very good players is dwindling and being replaced by journeymen.

                        Right now the one who looks world class is Trent Boult

                        He’s playing bloody well yes, but he’s still what I’d call Ross Taylor class. Very good, would probably walk into any international squad but maybe a bit short of being one of the absolute elite of his era.

                        He's played better in his position than Kane has in his during this series

                        I certainly can’t argue that, I do have a habit of judging guys on their overall records to be fair.

                        Four wickets in an ODI twice in a row is exceptional. 16 in his last five ODIs ! ( thanks cricinfo )

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                        • NTAN NTA

                          Audio on, but swearing involved.

                          https://twitter.com/gradecricketer/status/1568477330896752641

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                          @NTA isn't this covered by Miller v Jackson? @MvJ ...

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                            Audio on, but swearing involved.

                            https://twitter.com/gradecricketer/status/1568477330896752641

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                            @NTA said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                            Audio on, but swearing involved.

                            https://twitter.com/gradecricketer/status/1568477330896752641

                            Fucken Straya Cuuuuuuunnnnnttttttt

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                            • boobooB booboo

                              @NTA isn't this covered by Miller v Jackson? @MvJ ...

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                              @booboo said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                              @NTA isn't this covered by Miller v Jackson? @MvJ ...

                              Isn't what covered?

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                                @booboo said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                                @NTA isn't this covered by Miller v Jackson? @MvJ ...

                                Isn't what covered?

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                                @NTA wasn't Miller v Jackson thw court case that established golfers have no obligation to hit the ball straight? Assume that would apply to cricket as well?

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                                  Fair to say Smithy took it a bit better…..

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                                    Good to see some fresh blood at least.

                                    https://twitter.com/BLACKCAPS/status/1568811904809959424

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                                      @NTA wasn't Miller v Jackson thw court case that established golfers have no obligation to hit the ball straight? Assume that would apply to cricket as well?

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                                      @booboo said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0:

                                      @NTA wasn't Miller v Jackson thw court case that established golfers have no obligation to hit the ball straight? Assume that would apply to cricket as well?

                                      It was a cricket case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_v_Jackson

                                      The case is well known for the lyrical opening to Lord Denning's judgment, the first paragraph of which reads:

                                      "In summertime village cricket is the delight of everyone. Nearly every village has its own cricket field where the young men play and the old men watch. In the village of Lintz in County Durham they have their own ground, where they have played these last 70 years. They tend it well. The wicket area is well rolled and mown. The outfield is kept short. It has a good club house for the players and seats for the onlookers. The village team play there on Saturdays and Sundays. They belong to a league, competing with the neighbouring villages. On other evenings after work they practise while the light lasts.

                                      Yet now after these 70 years a judge of the High Court has ordered that they must not play there any more. He has issued an injunction to stop them. He has done it at the instance of a newcomer who is no lover of cricket. This newcomer has built, or has had built for him, a house on the edge of the cricket ground which four years ago was a field where cattle grazed. The animals did not mind the cricket.

                                      But now this adjoining field has been turned into a housing estate. The newcomer bought one of the houses on the edge of the cricket ground. No doubt the open space was a selling point. Now he complains that when a batsman hits a six the ball has been known to land in his garden or on or near his house. His wife has got so upset about it that they always go out at week-ends. They do not go into the garden when cricket is being played. They say that this is intolerable. So they asked the judge to stop the cricket being played. And the judge, much against his will, has felt that he must order the cricket to be stopped: with the consequence, I suppose, that the Lintz Cricket Club will disappear.

                                      The cricket ground will be turned to some other use. I expect for more houses or a factory. The young men will turn to other things instead of cricket. The whole village will be much the poorer. And all this because of a newcomer who has just bought a house there next to the cricket ground"

                                      Quoted in honour of @Miller-V-Jackson

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                                        In terms of the outcome...

                                        The Court of Appeal delivered its judgment on 6 April 1977. Geoffrey Lane and Cumming-Bruce LJJ held that there was a foreseeable risk of injury to the plaintiffs and their property from the cricket balls and the club could not prevent accidents from happening. The club was guilty of negligence "on each occasion when a ball comes over the fence and causes damage to the plaintiffs".[2] The repeated interference with their property was also held to be an actionable nuisance. Following Sturges v. Bridgman, the fact that the Millers had "come to the nuisance" was no defence. On that basis, the Millers were awarded damages. Lord Denning MR dissented from the finding of negligence and nuisance, holding that "the public interest should prevail over the private interest".[3] However, on the basis that the club had agreed to pay for any damage, Lord Denning was "content that there should be an award of £400 to cover any past or future damage".[3]

                                        Geoffrey Lane LJ would have upheld the injunction. However, Lord Denning MR and Cumming-Bruce LJ held that damages were a sufficient remedy, holding that the discretionary equitable remedy of an injunction was not necessary. In the words of Cumming-Bruce LJ, the court had to "strike a fair balance between the right of the plaintiffs to have quiet enjoyment of their house and garden without exposure to cricket balls occasionally falling like thunderbolts from the heavens, and the opportunity of the inhabitants of the village in which they live to continue to enjoy the manly sport which constitutes a summer recreation for adults and young persons".[4] The Millers had bought a house with the benefit of an open space adjacent to their land, and had to accept that the innocent and lawful use of the open land could restrict the enjoyment of their garden.

                                        It is notable that the court did not hold that holding cricket matches on the ground was negligent, per se; rather, there were separate negligent acts each time a ball left the ground.

                                        Not long after the case, the Millers moved house

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                                          Fucking classic. Like people who move next door to a pub and complain about the loud music.

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